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Bryanbryoil 12-22-2012 02:41 AM

Texas Stars @ OKC Barons: Sat. 12/22 6PM, We're Still Alive But The Barons Still Suck
 

Game InfoGame Day: Saturday December 22nd 2012
Game Time: 6:00PM MDT
Radio:
PPV AHL Neulion


LineupsBARONS: TBD, My Guess At This Point
Hamilton #13-Arcobello #26-Eberle #7
Hall #22-Green #12-Hartikainen #10
Paajarvi #19-Lander #16-Pitlick #9
Byers #34-Vande Velde #29-House #21

Deck #8-J. Schultz #5
Fedun #27-Teubert #33
Marincin #28-Henry #39

Danis #35
Roy #31

Scratches:

Healthy: D Plante #4, C Martindale #17, W Cornet #15

Injured: D Davidson #3 (Testicular Cancer), W Tyrvainen #14 (Broken Wrist), Ringwald #6 (Wrist)

Loaned To WJC's: C Nugent-Hopkins #18

Reassigned To Stockton: W Abney #36

Suspended: W Pelss #23



STARS:
TBD
Roster



Who to watch?BARONS TO WATCH: Taylor Hall was the only player that could get anything going against the Stars on Friday and he nearly potted a couple of goals with top end stickhandling at top speed.

STARS TO WATCH: The Stars are a well coached team that plays a solid defensive system. Players like Eakin and Morin seem to stand out among their peers.


Barons Number of the DayThe number of the day is 3 as in the number of times that the Barons have been shutout this season after 27 games.


Quotable"He has parts of [Scott] Niedermayer and one player he reminds me of is Drew Doughty," Oklahoma City coach Todd Nelson told NHL.com. "The NHL is a step higher, but I see him doing the same thing up there. Maybe not as explosive in his first year, but I see him contributing offensively. I see him playing a lot of minutes, just as he does here -- and he plays about 30 minutes a game, handles it well."-- Oklahoma City coach Todd Nelson talking about Justin Schultz in an interview with NHL.com


Season Series
DateLocationResult
10/28OKC 4-2 OKC
11/21Texas 6-4 OKC
12/21OKC 3-0 Texas


Team Comparison
 BaronsStars
Games2727
Points3034
Wins1315
GF8667
GA8165
Power Play %22.914.9
Penalty Kill %79.781.7


Team Leaders
BaronsStars
GOALS: Eberle (19)Fraser (10)
ASSISTS:Schultz (24)Eakin (11)
POINTS: Eberle and Schultz (38)Eakin (19)
+/-: Eberle and Schultz (+12)Eakin (+11)


Today's Videos

The Bored Man 12-22-2012 02:46 AM

You know, an alternate branch of the 21/12/12 theory is that it's the beginning of a new era for civilization and/or the universe rather than the end. So maybe this grand transformation will be one where the hockey teams I cheer for won't be doggy doo-doo.

Also sounds like yesterday's game was a good one to miss.

Bryanbryoil 12-22-2012 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bored Man (Post 56733925)
You know, an alternate branch of the 21/12/12 theory is that it's the beginning of a new era for civilization and/or the universe rather than the end. So maybe this grand transformation will be one where the hockey teams I cheer for won't be doggy doo-doo.

Also sounds like yesterday's game was a good one to miss.

Besides a couple of great individual efforts from Hall and big saves from Danis you didn't miss much. I sure hope that we won't see a snooze fest like that in the rematch.

scid14 12-22-2012 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bored Man (Post 56733925)
You know, an alternate branch of the 21/12/12 theory is that it's the beginning of a new era for civilization and/or the universe rather than the end. So maybe this grand transformation will be one where the hockey teams I cheer for won't be doggy doo-doo.

Also sounds like yesterday's game was a good one to miss.

I've heard this too! Here's hoping :nod:

As for the game yesterday...BBO summed it up.

Replacement 12-22-2012 10:54 AM

Now I don't think I'm going out on a line here calling a Barons win tonight. Watch the same club dial it up tonight, put in a much better effort, and a much different game. I'd be surprised if they didn't actually.

But thats part of the concern is the inconsistent efforts and not knowing what team shows up.

I can't imagine any of the players want to carry this taste into the Christmas break.

molsonmuscle360 12-22-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replacement (Post 56739697)
Now I don't think I'm going out on a line here calling a Barons win tonight. Watch the same club dial it up tonight, put in a much better effort, and a much different game. I'd be surprised if they didn't actually.

But thats part of the concern is the inconsistent efforts and not knowing what team shows up.

I can't imagine any of the players want to carry this taste into the Christmas break.

To me it seems like a lot of the career AHL'ers on the team just seem to be thinking that they can just let Hall, Ebs and Schultz handle everything. You rarely see any passion out of the third and fourth lines.

scid14 12-22-2012 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replacement (Post 56739697)
Now I don't think I'm going out on a line here calling a Barons win tonight. Watch the same club dial it up tonight, put in a much better effort, and a much different game. I'd be surprised if they didn't actually.

But thats part of the concern is the inconsistent efforts and not knowing what team shows up.

I can't imagine any of the players want to carry this taste into the Christmas break.

As a team this is definitely the problem and I agree with you there.

However, like molson said above it seems to be the depth that isn't putting forward the effort. Pitlick, Hamilton, Lander, Harty. Just in the last game, all of these guys stood out during only a couple shifts of the game...they were flying out there and working extremely hard. Then the next shift they come out and aren't skating near as hard and it's noticeable.

Replacement 12-22-2012 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molsonmuscle360 (Post 56739779)
To me it seems like a lot of the career AHL'ers on the team just seem to be thinking that they can just let Hall, Ebs and Schultz handle everything. You rarely see any passion out of the third and fourth lines.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scid14 (Post 56739881)
As a team this is definitely the problem and I agree with you there.

However, like molson said above it seems to be the depth that isn't putting forward the effort. Pitlick, Hamilton, Lander, Harty. Just in the last game, all of these guys stood out during only a couple shifts of the game...they were flying out there and working extremely hard. Then the next shift they come out and aren't skating near as hard and it's noticeable.

When I've stated this it hasn't been a popular comment but leadership, and value, and learning to be a winner involves more than just what you individually do on the ice. Our youngstars need to learn how to transfer the excitement, and include the rest of the team in it. No less than Gretzky intimately understood this. All of his actions were for not unless he could get everybody on the same ride. Thats the next challenge for our youngstars to learn is leadership. Its as good a time as any.

One additional concern I have is the lack of scoring results when our top guys are broken up to different lines. Really good players should be able to still produce. They should succeed in making those around them better. Its not enough of an accomplishment for Eberle, Hall, Schultz, and RNH(when he's here) to have results together. Really that isn't even the point right now. They know how to have results together, they should be learning how to further results on the club and through playing well with others. Only then will the BARONS become a team.

scid14 12-22-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replacement (Post 56740013)
When I've stated this it hasn't been a popular comment but leadership, and value, and learning to be a winner involves more than just what you individually do on the ice. Our youngstars need to learn how to transfer the excitement, and include the rest of the team in it. No less than Gretzky intimately understood this. All of his actions were for not unless he could get everybody on the same ride. Thats the next challenge for our youngstars to learn is leadership. Its as good a time as any.

One additional concern I have is the lack of scoring results when our top guys are broken up to different lines. Really good players should be able to still produce. They should succeed in making those around them better. Its not enough of an accomplishment for Eberle, Hall, Schultz, and RNH(when he's here) to have results together. Really that isn't even the point right now. They know how to have results together, they should be learning how to further results on the club and through playing well with others. Only then will the BARONS become a team.

Definitely, I would love to see them learn how to make anyone around them better and turn it into a winning culture. They can even do it to a certain extent right now. They are still extremely young and I have no doubt that they will learn how to do that and I think everyone here knows they will eventually get to that point. It may take a couple years though. It's pretty rare that someone can come into a room and change the culture of the team, only happens once in a while.

Right now I'm sure that is something that is being worked on but a consistent effort from the supporting players has to be there.

Stoneman89 12-22-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replacement (Post 56740013)
When I've stated this it hasn't been a popular comment but leadership, and value, and learning to be a winner involves more than just what you individually do on the ice. Our youngstars need to learn how to transfer the excitement, and include the rest of the team in it. No less than Gretzky intimately understood this. All of his actions were for not unless he could get everybody on the same ride. Thats the next challenge for our youngstars to learn is leadership. Its as good a time as any.

One additional concern I have is the lack of scoring results when our top guys are broken up to different lines. Really good players should be able to still produce. They should succeed in making those around them better. Its not enough of an accomplishment for Eberle, Hall, Schultz, and RNH(when he's here) to have results together. Really that isn't even the point right now. They know how to have results together, they should be learning how to further results on the club and through playing well with others. Only then will the BARONS become a team.

Good points. What concerns me though about your last paragraph, is that maybe the other players they are required to play with when they're broken up, are shyte. I hope not. So far, Stu has nailed the 1st overalls, Ebs and Hartski. But the jury is still well out on all those 2nd rounders, and beyond. I think when the time comes, the big club will sign/trade for some solid former SC winners that may be well past their prime, but will help push and foster that winning attitude.

Bryanbryoil 12-22-2012 03:40 PM

Let's hope that none of our guys piss off Oleksiak tonight.....



If anyone thought that he was big but not very tough, think again!

Bryanbryoil 12-22-2012 04:00 PM

Hopefully Paajarvi practices what he preaches and plays hungry for the puck tonight.

tiger_80 12-22-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replacement (Post 56740013)
When I've stated this it hasn't been a popular comment but leadership, and value, and learning to be a winner involves more than just what you individually do on the ice. Our youngstars need to learn how to transfer the excitement, and include the rest of the team in it. No less than Gretzky intimately understood this. All of his actions were for not unless he could get everybody on the same ride. Thats the next challenge for our youngstars to learn is leadership. Its as good a time as any.

One additional concern I have is the lack of scoring results when our top guys are broken up to different lines. Really good players should be able to still produce. They should succeed in making those around them better. Its not enough of an accomplishment for Eberle, Hall, Schultz, and RNH(when he's here) to have results together. Really that isn't even the point right now. They know how to have results together, they should be learning how to further results on the club and through playing well with others. Only then will the BARONS become a team.

They are good players, but not that level good where they can turn career 3rd liners into 50-60 point players in the NHL. Maybe one day, but none of HAll, RNH, Eberle are on the Crosby/Malkin/Datsyuk level right now. It is good they added Yakupov. This team will need secondary scoring in a bad way.

tiger_80 12-22-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryanbryoil (Post 56744975)
Let's hope that none of our guys piss off Oleksiak tonight.....



If anyone thought that he was big but not very tough, think again!

Well-conditioned too by the look of it.

lakai17 12-22-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryanbryoil (Post 56744975)
Let's hope that none of our guys piss off Oleksiak tonight.....



If anyone thought that he was big but not very tough, think again!

our young guns will fly by him, I am not worried. Watch his +/- tonight.

scid14 12-22-2012 05:07 PM

I really want that to be the case tonight!

lakai17 12-22-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryanbryoil (Post 56745341)
Hopefully Paajarvi practices what he preaches and plays hungry for the puck tonight.

one of Hall or Paajarvi will be exploding tonight. I am calling the hatty! 85% Hall

scid14 12-22-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakai17 (Post 56746783)
one of Hall or Paajarvi will be exploding tonight. I am calling the hatty! 85% Hall

They were both arguably our best players last night. Hall 5 on 5 and Paajarvi on the PP. Would like to see that dominance continue and get even better along with everyone else picking it up. Losing two straight to this team is not good for our standings we have to come out strong tonight.

Shanahanigans 12-22-2012 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryanbryoil (Post 56744975)
Let's hope that none of our guys piss off Oleksiak tonight.....



If anyone thought that he was big but not very tough, think again!

:amazed: Damn. Oleksiak is a beast. Went to high school with Petrovic, tough kid.

I liked what I saw from Paajarvi last game. Hopefully he builds on it. He may be a slow developer, but I can see him carving out a decent NHL career as a role player.

lakai17 12-22-2012 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scid14 (Post 56746895)
They were both arguably our best players last night. Hall 5 on 5 and Paajarvi on the PP. Would like to see that dominance continue and get even better along with everyone else picking it up. Losing two straight to this team is not good for our standings we have to come out strong tonight.

Yes 2 points = life

There is still a lot of time guys, our best player Nugent-Hopkins isn't even in the lineup at the moment and you know the Barons will be making runs at the Calder cup for a few more seasons here on in. Slow down.

H4LL 12-22-2012 07:11 PM

Any streams available?

Kirby 12-22-2012 07:13 PM

first row sports has a link that is not working yet, and Justin Schultz has scored, assists to Lander and Paajarvi

franfrey* 12-22-2012 07:13 PM

2-0 for the Barons already. Schultz and Hall with the goals.

Bryanbryoil 12-22-2012 07:16 PM

I missed the first goal and just turned in as they scored the 2nd.

Kid Dynamite 12-22-2012 07:23 PM

Schultz pots another.


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