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Lifetimebluesfan 12-22-2012 09:40 AM

2013-2014 Line Combos (If There is Even a Season)
 
Bored, would like to see what you guys think..

Perron-Backes-Stewart
Steen-Berglund-Oshie
Schwartz-Jaskin-Tarasenko
Sobotka-Nichol?-Langenbrunner?

Whitney-Pietrangelo
Jackman-Shattenkirk
Russel-Polak

Halak
Elliott

McDonald does not re-sign; Ryan Whitney signs for 2 years $6 Million.
Don't know if Langenbrunner and Nichol will be back though.

letmesleep 12-22-2012 11:16 AM

Schwartz-Jaskin-Tarasenko

An all rookie line would be a disaster waiting to happen. I also doubt Jaskin will be NHL ready.

Personally, I think McDonald re-signs.

InjuredChoker 12-22-2012 11:19 AM

Why all rookie line?

edit. beaten to it.

MattyMo35 12-22-2012 12:03 PM

Like others have said, not a chance I'd want to see the Schwartz-Jaskin-Tarasenko line. Eventually I want Schwartz and Tarasenko on a line because Schwartz has the vision and the passing, Tarasenko has the shot. Rattie has a good shot too, but I don't think I'd want both Schwartz and Rattie on the same line. It's just too small. Schwartz-Berglund-Tarasenko line in a few years intrigues me. As for how I see the team looking in 2013-14, I'd say something along the lines of:

Perron-Backes-Oshie
Schwartz-Berglund-Stewart
FA Vet-Steen-Tarasenko
Porter-Sobotka-Reaves

Cole-Pietrangelo
Jackman-Shattenkirk
Russell-Polak

Jaro
Els

CarvinSigX 12-22-2012 12:05 PM

Not only do I highly doubt Jaskin makes the team, but he doesn't even play center, does he? Anyway, assuming there's no trades, even though I'm sure there will be, here's how I expect it to look if everyone is healthy and performing.

Stewart/D'agostini/? Backes Oshie
Perron Berglund Tarasenko
Steen Lehtera/? McDonald
Porter/? Sobotka Reaves/?

Cole/? Pietrangelo
Jackman Shattenkirk
Russell Polak

Halak
Elliott

h22prelude93 12-22-2012 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarvinSigX (Post 56740937)
Not only do I highly doubt Jaskin makes the team, but he doesn't even play center, does he?

No I don't think Jaskin plays center, but he does play both wings. BTW love those 2nd and 3rd lines.

This is what I'd like to see...

Steen-Backes-Oshie
Perron-Berglund-Tarasenko
McDonald-Lehterä-Stewart
D'Agostini-Sobotka-Reaves/Schwartz

(FA/Trade)-Pietrangelo
Jackman-Shattenkirk
Russell-Polak/Cole

Halak
Elliott

Possible FA's: Edler, Gonchar, Leopold
Possible Trades: Després, Gormley

Lifetimebluesfan 12-22-2012 01:03 PM

I thought seeing an all rookie line would be kind of cool, kinda like the hall-rnh-yak line we may see sometime soon, but I guess Dmittij isn't ready yet. Also, I thought wildcat maple leafs said on jaskin's thread that Dmittij can play all three forward positions..?

stlweir 12-22-2012 01:15 PM

Isn't this AMac's final year of his contract? Just plain crazy to kiss this year goodbye. Love to have him back.

Perron-Backes-Stewart
Schwartz-Berglund-Oshie
?-Steen-Tarasenko

Dags, Rattie and Jaskin looking for a spot.

Cole - Pie
Jackman - Shattenkirk
Russell - Polak

BlueDream 12-22-2012 02:15 PM

Why would Porter be in the starting lineup? No need to even bring him back. I would argue that Cracknell, Murray, even Peluso would all be better options as a 4th-liner or extra forward.

Don't see the need to bring D'Agostini back as Schwartz should be ready to go and I think McDonald would like to return. I guess trading D'Ags might be best.

The biggest question to me is whether Langenbrunner or Nichol will return. I think they both have another year left in them but they always could retire, and also, do we need them? I love the roles they provide but who knows with our depth... Right now I'm going to guess that Langs could be back at least. Didn't he want a 2-year deal in the summer? Could be wrong but thought I heard something like that.

I also think the longer the lockout goes, the better chance we go with Cole than add someone but that is also questionable. He seems to be doing fine in Peoria.

Overall it will be a similar team but interesting to think about. As of now I would do:

Perron-Backes-Oshie
Schwartz-Berglund-Stewart
McDonald-Steen-Tarasenko
Langenbrunner-Sobotka-Reaves
Peluso?

Cole-Pietrangelo
Jackman-Shattenkirk
Russell-Polak
FA extra

Halak
Elliott

Don't see that top 9 really changing. 4th line maybe. But overall, that looks good. Could use another defenseman still but I can't really predict what they will do there. With one more d-man added though I would feel good about that roster.

bleedblue1223 12-22-2012 07:31 PM

We'll pretty much have the same lineup as we would have now. Rattie and Jaskin will both start in Peoria, maybe on a line with Hensick. Schwartz could easily start with the team depending on his 2nd half with Peoria and what he does in the offseason. The only other option would be if Lehtera comes over and impresses during camp. In that case, either Schwartz starts in Peoria again, we try and trade Stewart, or Lehtera agrees to start in Peoria and be the 1st call-up. I fully expect us to resign McDonald on a deal that benefits both parties.

Bluesnatic27 12-22-2012 10:14 PM

What I would like to see is:

Perron-Backes-Oshie
McDonald-Berglund-Stewart
Lehtera-Steen-Tarasenko
Reaves-Sobotka-D'Agostini(not sold on this line yet)

Free Agent-Pietrangelo
Jackman-Shattenkirk
Cole-Polak

Halak
Elliott

stlblues9 12-22-2012 11:19 PM

Is Lehtera going to be ready for the NHL next season? How close is he if he's not?

Robb_K 12-22-2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlblues9 (Post 56753533)
Is Lehtera going to be ready for the NHL next season? How close is he if he's not?

I think he'll need some time in Peoria to get used to playing defence in the faster, harder-hitting NHL game, on the smaller North-American ice surface. I haven't seen him play this season. But from what I have seen of him, he was no stellar defender in the more open European game. maybe the smaller ice surface will actually HELP him a little. But, in any case, he'll need to learn to play a better 2-way game to make The Blues' roster. His skating was probably one of the reasons he was a lower than average defensive forward. I assume that his skating has improved somewhat, but I'd bet he still has more improvement to make to get up to NHL Top 3 line standards.

Izzy 12-23-2012 08:41 AM

Steen-Backes-Tarasenko
Perron-Berglund-Oshie
McDonald-Schwartz-Stewart
D'Agostini-Sobotka-Reaves
Grachev


Cole-Pietro
Jackman-Shattenkirk
Russell-Polak
Chorney

Halak
Elliott

Put Schwartz on centre to fill a spot, not sure how often he actually plays it

Stealth JD 12-23-2012 02:55 PM

Lehtera has no intentions of playing in the AHL...as such, I doubt we ever see him in North America.

Robb_K 12-23-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth JD (Post 56764285)
Lehtera has no intentions of playing in the AHL...as such, I doubt we ever see him in North America.

If he is not willing to ever play in The AHL, he'd better improve his skating speed and his quickness, and better show superior defensive skills in his KHL play. Otherwise, The Blues would have to gamble on giving him an NHL contract and start him in a regular season after just seeing him in a camp and a few pre-season games.

geno4mvp 12-23-2012 06:12 PM

Any chance Chris Porter makes this team?

bleedblue1223 12-23-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geno4mvp (Post 56769539)
Any chance Chris Porter makes this team?

Maybe as the healthy scratch. And even then, he'd have to fight for it.

Bluesnatic27 12-23-2012 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bleedblue1223 (Post 56771295)
Maybe as the healthy scratch. And even then, he'd have to fight for it.

Doesn't feel great to have to say that about guys making our roster?

bluemandan 12-24-2012 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluesnatic27 (Post 56771425)
Doesn't feel great to have to say that about guys making our roster?

So great. :cheers:

Mike Liut 12-24-2012 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fst6 (Post 56756763)
Steen-Backes-Tarasenko
Perron-Berglund-Oshie
McDonald-Schwartz-Stewart
D'Agostini-Sobotka-Reaves
Grachev


Cole-Pietro
Jackman-Shattenkirk
Russell-Polak
Chorney

Halak
Elliott

Put Schwartz on centre to fill a spot, not sure how often he actually plays it



I would love that lineup from day 1. Where's Langs? Not that I care. Just sayin. And Nichol too?


Edit- ahh crap, I thought we were talking about this year. My bad

kimzey59 12-25-2012 01:09 AM

1) Langenbrunner and Nichol Retire
McDonald and D'Agostini allowed to walk as a UFA's

2) Pietrangelo(6.5 mil) and Shattenkirk(5 mil) get LTD's.
Russell, Cole, Berglund and Stewart get short term "prove it" deals(1-2 years) at close to the same rate they have right now.

3) Sign Antropov to a 2 year, 2.75 mil per deal.
Sign Malhotra to a 1 year, 800K deal
Sign Ron Hainsey to a 3 year, 3.25 mil deal

Schwartz Backes Oshie
Perron Berglund Stewart
Steen Antropov Tarasenko
Sobotka Malhotra Reaves
Peluso Porter
(29)

Hainsey Pietrangelo
Jackman Shattenkirk
Russell Polak
Cole
(23)

Halak/Elliott
(5.55)

Team Salary- 59 mil

tfriede2 12-25-2012 09:09 AM

Just doing offense for now:

Perron Backes Oshie
Schwartz Berglund Stewart
Steen Lehtera Tarasenko
D'Agostini Sobotka Reaves

(I'm assuming no McDonald...if McDonald re-signs, then no Lehtera).

I think this is a pretty well-balanced lineup. Every line has some size and toughness. Every line has a playmaker and a sniper (even the 4th line, sort of). Each line can be depended upon to be defensively responsible (although the 3rd line could be a bit iffy).

Neither Berglund or Stewart are set-up men, and I think Schwartz may be able to create some chemistry with them.

My big shot in the dark is Lehtera. Who knows if he'll make the jump over. My understanding is that his ELC has expired now, but we still own his rights. So we would have to sign him to a one-way deal (he won't accept a two-way deal, I'm sure). I like the idea of putting Steen on this line, as he would balance out the defensive responsibilities (Tarasenko is defensively responsible, but Lehtera is not, from what I have read). There are so many possibilities with this group of players though. That entire top 9 can be mixed and matched in any way. D'Agostini could even be placed in there somewhere.

Rattie/Jaskin/Hensick/McRae/Cracknell/Grachev/Porter(?) are our callup options.

jessejames 12-25-2012 04:22 PM

We all have Berglund penciled in as the second-line center. How many of us question that he's shown enough to-date to be considered as such, especially for a top team?

I find his skating a little slow and, but for a brilliant start to his rookie year and a great first round of last year's playoffs, his offensive numbers lacking.

Crumblin Erb Brooks 12-25-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessejames (Post 56799565)
We all have Berglund penciled in as the second-line center. How many of us question that he's shown enough to-date to be considered as such, especially for a top team?

I find his skating a little slow and, but for a brilliant start to his rookie year and a great first round of last year's playoffs, his offensive numbers lacking.

Yeah, a little bit. He simply isnt a playmaker, but he has shown to be a pretty good finisher. His defense has come along too, he matches up well with other big centers. I dont see a ton of difference in calling someone a good third liner and an average second liner: Are there 45-55 better centers than Bergy out there? It becomes less of an issue of Steen plays well at center, but we are one injury away to Berglund or Backes from having issues.


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