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thalegion 12-25-2012 11:18 AM

LA - Edm
 
Edmonton has an entitled kid named Linus Omark in the Swiss League

LA has Bud Holloway in the SEL both are doing well in their leagues

Swap em?

Muzzinga 12-25-2012 11:33 AM

Seems good to this Kings fan, Holloway is never going to play for the Kings anyway, so may aswell get something for him. Would rather a pick though tbh

zeus3007* 12-25-2012 12:02 PM

I thought of this as well yesterday after seeing the Bud Holloway in the SEL thread. Not sure if Holloway would make the Oilers roster either, but he'd have a better shot than Linus I'm sure.

I'd even offer a late pick as incentive (6th or 7th) if he's a center, but I honestly know very little about him aside from the thread yesterday and his Hockey DB profile.

kingsofLA 12-25-2012 12:07 PM

Just give us Tuebert back. We need some muscle in Manchester in the back end.

thalegion 12-25-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeus3007 (Post 56796635)
I thought of this as well yesterday after seeing the Bud Holloway in the SEL thread. Not sure if Holloway would make the Oilers roster either, but he'd have a better shot than Linus I'm sure.

I'd even offer a late pick as incentive (6th or 7th) if he's a center, but I honestly know very little about him aside from the thread yesterday and his Hockey DB profile.

That's exactly where I got idea and yeah imdb

Telos 12-25-2012 12:11 PM

I'd be alright with it. Might as well get something for him.

Minor Boarding 12-25-2012 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thalegion (Post 56796185)
Edmonton has an entitled kid named Linus Omark in the Swiss League

LA has Bud Holloway in the SEL both are doing well in their leagues

Swap em?

NO to this trade/swap because:
a)I don't think Omark has NHL game - full time NHL potential.
b)He doesn't make the Kings lineup and certainly isn't Lombardi kind of a player.
c)Based on Lombardis history, he would deal Holloway for picks or gritty prospects...

WeridAl 12-25-2012 12:41 PM

Omark isn't going to make the Oilers and neither would Bud Holloway. The problem with Bud Holloway he doesn't bring anything the Oilers need, if he was a RHS winger I would consider it, Oilers pass.

KingCanadain1976 12-25-2012 12:49 PM

I would love this trade as said above hollaway wont make the kings and i think omark has a slight shot at it. With gagne and penner being free agents at the end I think i would be ok with omark pearson fighting it out for the second or 3rd line postion that would be open ( depending on king or clifford moving up a line) I think omark would be a good option for shootout which we kinda sucked at last year.

glenbuis 12-25-2012 01:09 PM

I fail to see what role Omark could have on the kings if there already set at water bottle guy, trainer, stick guy etc...

ManByng 12-25-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingsofLA (Post 56796683)
Just give us Tuebert back. We need some muscle in Manchester in the back end.

nope :laugh:

ManByng 12-25-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by glenbuis (Post 56797443)
I fail to see what role Omark could have on the kings if there already set at water bottle guy, trainer, stick guy etc...

i feel exactly the same about Holloway ;)

Minor Boarding 12-25-2012 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingsofLA (Post 56796683)
Just give us Tuebert back. We need some muscle in Manchester in the back end.

He would play in Ontario* where he did before he got traded...

--lock and load, Denny Crane



*Ontario, California -> Ontario Reign, ECHL

TwoForRoughing 12-25-2012 02:19 PM

Nah. Kings have no need for Linus Omark. Give us a fourth round pick or something.

kingsofLA 12-25-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minor Boarding (Post 56798217)
He would play in Ontario* where he did before he got traded...

--lock and load, Denny Crane



*Ontario, California -> Ontario Reign, ECHL

We have enought midgets on D. Im sure one of those guys can make the trip. It is tough watching our D in A not clearing the front of the gate. The only guy that is able to do that Campbel and he already missed a couple of games because of injuries.

zeus3007* 12-25-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoForRoughing (Post 56798335)
Nah. Kings have no need for Linus Omark. Give us a fourth round pick or something.

I'd give up the 4th we get in a trade for Omark for him, ha ha. As long as he's willing to go in OKC for a year.

Minor Boarding 12-25-2012 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingsofLA (Post 56798455)
We have enought midgets on D. Im sure one of those guys can make the trip. It is tough watching our D in A not clearing the front of the gate. The only guy that is able to do that Campbel and he already missed a couple of games because of injuries.

What you want is a veteran defensman not Teubert who's game has struggled at the AHL level then.


Bodnarchuk, Campbell, Deslauriers are all players that are more than capable of clearing the crease...Are they young and make mistakes that made MCH lose games they should've maybe won? Of course, but just because the lack of consistency annoys you - I am afraid Lombardi and Hextall see the AHL (Manchester Monarchs) as a developmental league and veterans aren't gonna be signed to take away minutes at that level...

But look at the bright side...The Monarchs have been a playoff team for quite some time, despite dressing some of the youngest AHL rosters...

Minor Boarding 12-25-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeus3007 (Post 56799455)
I'd give up the 4th we get in a trade for Omark for him, ha ha. As long as he's willing to go in OKC for a year.

You missed the little obvious fact that Holloway doesn't want to play in the AHL anymore and thats why he went to SWE in the first place...

kingsofLA 12-25-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minor Boarding (Post 56799517)
What you want is a veteran defensman not Teubert who's game has struggled at the AHL level then.


Bodnarchuk, Campbell, Deslauriers are all players that are more than capable of clearing the crease...Are they young and make mistakes that made MCH lose games they should've maybe won? Of course, but just because the lack of consistency annoys you - I am afraid Lombardi and Hextall see the AHL (Manchester Monarchs) as a developmental league and veterans aren't gonna be signed to take away minutes at that level...

But look at the bright side...The Monarchs have been a playoff team for quite some time, despite dressing some of the youngest AHL rosters...

Not only is our ahl team in need of a big defensive dmen, but our big club could loose Scuderi and Mitchell within after this season. Yes, we have roach, gravel and forbert, but they are probably going to need some seasoning in the A.

Now out of Bodnarchuk, Campbell, and Deslauriers only Campbell is a real defensive dmen and looks like he has a ways to go even after his fifth year in the A. Bodnarchuk was great the first 2 months and now is coming back to earth. And lets not kid ourselves, bodnarchuk is more of career Ahler since he already has 5 ahl seasons under his belt. Deslauriers has been pretty good the last month, but has J johnson issues ( not that great defensively).

Tuebert would be cheap to try bring back to LA, and we would be given up an asset that has turn his back on Our team. Tuebert had some spot duty with bug club last year, so has to be atleast worthy for our AHL team. Worst thing, he adds competition and insurance to both our Ahl team and maybe our big club if he improves.

zeus3007* 12-25-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minor Boarding (Post 56799573)
You missed the little obvious fact that Holloway doesn't want to play in the AHL anymore and thats why he went to SWE in the first place...

I didn't miss that at all, but perhaps a team with more emphasis on prospects and less of a log jam with established NHL players would entice him to give it a shot with another AHL team. Perhaps the light at the end of the tunnel in the Edmonton system would be brighter than that in Los Angeles for a prospect like Holloway. That's why I said IF if would be willing to go to the AHL. He might not, all we know for sure is that he didn't want to toil in the Kings system.

oilerbear 12-25-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thalegion (Post 56796185)
Edmonton has an entitled kid named Linus Omark in the Swiss League

LA has Bud Holloway in the SEL both are doing well in their leagues

Swap em?

The guy made 1.2M in the KHL.

Was a U22 20G scorer in the RSL/KHL like Ovechkin, Malkin, Semin, Kovalchuk.

You call him entitled.

When he played with Paajarvi, Gagner, hartikainen he was .876 PPG.

Eskimo44 12-25-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilerbear (Post 56802571)
The guy made 1.2M in the KHL.

Was a U22 20G scorer in the RSL/KHL like Ovechkin, Malkin, Semin, Kovalchuk.

You call him entitled.

When he played with Paajarvi, Gagner, hartikainen he was .876 PPG.

You know despite being an Oilers fan i feel for Linus and think some of those stretches of NHL play that were less than stellar say more about the Oil than Omark. This guy has been quality, a star even, at every level short of the NHL. And even then in the NHL he's had some great stretches (as you aptly pointed out). I really do think given a shot Omark is going to be a player, he's just too talented. I've never seen anything more hyperbolized than Omarks defensive game, yet everyone turns a blind eye to how exceptionally talented he is with the puck. Watching him in the AHL it looked like he was playing against kids, on a totally different level.

oiler182 12-26-2012 01:51 AM

I am a big omark fan and LA is one of the few teams i see him doing well on because the size of your forwards. The oilers had to many small guys to fit him in.

Nacho 12-26-2012 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeus3007 (Post 56796635)
I thought of this as well yesterday after seeing the Bud Holloway in the SEL thread. Not sure if Holloway would make the Oilers roster either, but he'd have a better shot than Linus I'm sure.

I'd even offer a late pick as incentive (6th or 7th) if he's a center, but I honestly know very little about him aside from the thread yesterday and his Hockey DB profile.

Hes Canadian, what more do you need to know...:sarcasm:

Frolov 6'3 12-26-2012 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingsofLA (Post 56800745)
Not only is our ahl team in need of a big defensive dmen, but our big club could loose Scuderi and Mitchell within after this season. Yes, we have roach, gravel and forbert, but they are probably going to need some seasoning in the A.

Now out of Bodnarchuk, Campbell, and Deslauriers only Campbell is a real defensive dmen and looks like he has a ways to go even after his fifth year in the A. Bodnarchuk was great the first 2 months and now is coming back to earth. And lets not kid ourselves, bodnarchuk is more of career Ahler since he already has 5 ahl seasons under his belt. Deslauriers has been pretty good the last month, but has J johnson issues ( not that great defensively).

Tuebert would be cheap to try bring back to LA, and we would be given up an asset that has turn his back on Our team. Tuebert had some spot duty with bug club last year, so has to be atleast worthy for our AHL team. Worst thing, he adds competition and insurance to both our Ahl team and maybe our big club if he improves.

Is that because of a new cba, so his contract is not valid anymore ? Mitchel has a deal until 2014.

I'm confused anyway because what is Teubert going to change ? He's exactly like you describe some other players.


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