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LadyStanley 12-29-2012 12:21 AM

Rumor: WPG/CJB swap for partial season before full realignment
 
Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie Talk within NHL of flipping Winnipeg and Columbus for this year only pending future realignment...

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
Non-playoff team for non-playoff team if CBJ and Jets switch conferences for this season

Crede777 12-29-2012 12:22 AM

Good, further strengthens the claim if Columbus wants to be the ones to go East.

Fugu 12-29-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Crede777 (Post 56888041)
Good, further strengthens the claim if Columbus wants to be the ones to go East.


What claim? Detroit was there first. :rant:

Boltsfan2029 12-29-2012 12:42 AM

I swear I saw in one of the forums that the league had already come back saying this was not true. I can't find it to save my life, maybe it was a Tweet without a link and was deleted.

On a lighter/humorous note, I saw this at the top of the page when I conducted my search:

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Search: Keyword(s): swap ; Forum: National Hockey League Talk and child forums
:huh:

LadyStanley 12-29-2012 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fugu (Post 56888077)
What claim? Detroit was there first. :rant:

Yes, and apparently there was a verbal "promise" to Detroit to go east, if ever there was a realignment.

But, Columbus is further east than Detroit. (As is Nashville, for that matter.)

IU Hawks fan 12-29-2012 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyStanley (Post 56888369)
But, Columbus is further east than Detroit. (As is Nashville, for that matter.)

WUT?

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/at...1&d=1356764052

Fugu 12-29-2012 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyStanley (Post 56888369)
Yes, and apparently there was a verbal "promise" to Detroit to go east, if ever there was a realignment.

But, Columbus is further east than Detroit. (As is Nashville, for that matter.)


And Tampa is further west. ;)

I thought Columbus was right on the line too, if you take Joe Louis arena location.

Mouser sent me a PM to remind me that I should want the Wings in the west now, being they'd be in my current time zone. All I need is a team in Seattle, and I could see them in Van City and Seattle (assuming I forgive Bettman et al. and come back). :laugh:

IU Hawks fan 12-29-2012 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fugu (Post 56888459)
And Tampa is further west. ;)

And that's why it's the Eastern and Western Conferences, and not simply the East and West conferences. The teams closer to the coast are more eastern to me, because of the way the country shrinks along the coast the further south you go.

No Fun Shogun 12-29-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyStanley (Post 56888369)
Yes, and apparently there was a verbal "promise" to Detroit to go east, if ever there was a realignment.

Allegedly, you mean. Plus, Bettman could promise anything he wants, the Wings ownership should've been smart enough to know that the board members were the ones that would make the decision, and as a lot of Western teams like having Detroit as a reliable visiting draw and a lot of Eastern teams would probably prefer to keep another powerhouse out of their conference, no surprise that both sides would prefer Columbus get switched.

Not to mention that playing in the east would be majorly advantageous to the team's bottom line and help them float, whereas Detroit could be in the KHL and be just fine.

slightlystewpid420 12-29-2012 01:04 AM

Not gonna lie, I would actually like to see this happen.

VinnyC 12-29-2012 01:11 AM

Columbus is 38-23-11 vs East over the last four seasons so maybe it won't be a half bad move for them.

CBJBrassard16 12-29-2012 01:14 AM

This would really benefit the Winnipeg Jets and the Columbus Jacket Blues

Fugu 12-29-2012 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by slightlystewpid420 (Post 56888513)
Not gonna lie, I would actually like to see this happen.

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Originally Posted by CBJBrassard16 (Post 56888631)
This would really benefit the Winnipeg Jets and the Columbus Jacket Blues


I think I understand management's desire to lower travel costs, but why would CBJ fans be in favor of a move to the Eastern Conference, and SE Division? The Michigan/Ohio hate adds some spice right now, there's some rapport with the Nashville fans. Plus, the entire history has been with the western grouping.

Crede777 12-29-2012 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fugu (Post 56888675)
I think I understand management's desire to lower travel costs, but why would CBJ fans be in favor of a move to the Eastern Conference, and SE Division? The Michigan/Ohio hate adds some spice right now, there's some rapport with the Nashville fans. Plus, the entire history has been with the western grouping.

I think Columbus's chances of winning against the South East are better than their chances of winning against Detroit, Chicago, Nashville, and St. Louis.

Edit: Also, I heard that if/when realignment talks come up again, there will be no consideration of previous (verbal) agreements and it will be a completely clean slate. Basically they will assess what is best for the league and let each of the 30 individual teams weigh in. Most Western teams want Detroit to stay there because of the clout they bring and I think the East wants them to stay West as well. That's from CBJ President Mike Priest though so there might be some bias, I don't know.

Predatorbill 12-29-2012 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fugu (Post 56888675)
I think I understand management's desire to lower travel costs, but why would CBJ fans be in favor of a move to the Eastern Conference, and SE Division? The Michigan/Ohio hate adds some spice right now, there's some rapport with the Nashville fans. Plus, the entire history has been with the western grouping.

I think they would hate to give up on the rivalries, but sitting behind Detroit, Chicago, Nashville, and St Louis in the Central, it may be easier to win and make the playoffs in the Southeast.

Imlach a cup 12-29-2012 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Predatorbill (Post 56888783)
I think they would hate to give up on the rivalries, but sitting behind Detroit, Chicago, Nashville, and St Louis in the Central, it may be easier to win and make the playoffs in the Southeast.

Get to the playoffs and beat a 'traditional' hockey market, boom, instant rivalry. Sabres fans still hate the canes and that was a full lockout ago.

Sarava 12-29-2012 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fugu (Post 56888077)
What claim? Detroit was there first. :rant:

They can't move Detroit out east and leave the Hawks as a the lone wolf of the original 6 in the west.

Predatorbill 12-29-2012 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarava (Post 56889087)
They can't move Detroit out east and leave the Hawks as a the lone wolf of the original 6 in the west.

During the 1967 expansion all the new teams were in the West and all of the O6 were in the East. They have done it before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967%E2%80%9368_NHL_season

Sarava 12-29-2012 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Predatorbill (Post 56889199)
During the 1967 expansion all the new teams were in the West and all of the O6 were in the East. They have done it before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967%E2%80%9368_NHL_season

That's fine...if Detroit moves to the East, then Chicago should move to the East as well.

InjuredChoker 12-29-2012 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarava (Post 56889227)
That's fine...if Detroit moves to the East, then Chicago should move to the East as well.

You really want to kick out butts, don't you :) ?

I doubt that happens none 06 teams at west and geographically it would make even less sense but I doubt you were serious.

Chicago gets to keep Minnesota, Vancouver, St. Louis that isn't enough? Maybe could form a rivalry with Edmonton, too.

JmanWingsFan 12-29-2012 07:52 AM

They should do this. Will it be annoying having to travel up to Winnipeg 3 times next year? Yes... But, at least the eastern conference teams don't have to have screwy schedules... Honestly. Just swap Columbus with Minnesota and Minnesota with Winnipeg.

Pepper 12-29-2012 07:59 AM

This Larry Brooks -rumor was squashed by Dreger and 2 other journos.

Samkow 12-29-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JmanWingsFan (Post 56891361)
They should do this. Will it be annoying having to travel up to Winnipeg 3 times next year? Yes... But, at least the eastern conference teams don't have to have screwy schedules... Honestly. Just swap Columbus with Minnesota and Minnesota with Winnipeg.

Minnesota to Southeast? Columbus to the Northwest?

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

seanlinden 12-29-2012 08:19 AM

Looking at it strictly from a practical perspective... I don't see how this is possible.

The NHL arenas are booked, in many cases with basketball teams sharing the rink. If a season is to happen, the schedule is going to be heavily based on the remainder of the original schedule for this year. NHL schedule makers are going to have a tough enough time trying to add games in to get as many as possible, the last thing they're going to do is switch 2 teams places.

JmanWingsFan 12-29-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Samkow (Post 56891721)
Minnesota to Southeast? Columbus to the Northwest?

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Swap schedules... Columbus to southeast, Minnesota to Central, and Winnipeg to Northwest...


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