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mzappa 12-31-2012 08:48 AM

World Juniors - 2015 and 2017?
 
Does anyone know if Winnipeg has applied for the WJC in 2015 or (EDIT) 2017?

Both years' tournaments are assigned to Canada, but apparently not awarded yet.

Halifax, Ottawa, Vancouver, Edmonton/Calgary, Regina/Saskatoon - all have hosted recently.

Figure Winnipeg would be up next -- but I can't think of the secondary arena site (which would need renovations)...Brandon? Selkirk?

Would TNSE run the tournament and take control of any secondary site which is chosen?

JetsHomer 12-31-2012 08:52 AM

Brandon would work. But I heard Toronto and Montreal are going to apply to co-host both years. Gotta think they'll get their bids with how hockey works in Canada.

Hank Chinaski 12-31-2012 08:58 AM

There was a joint bid by Winnipeg/Brandon for the 2010 and 2012 WJC. As far as renovations to a secondary venue, Wesman Place (Keystone Centre) had major upgrades done as part of their hosting of the Memorial Cup in 2010. I don't think anything other than minor touches would be needed.

Canada is assured the WJC in 2015, 2017, 2019 and 2021. I would be pretty shocked if Winnipeg wasn't the host for one of those years.

mzappa 12-31-2012 09:01 AM

Found this article.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/sports/sto...nada-bids.html

"Nicholson doesn't rule out inter-provincial bids. For example, Manitoba and Saskatchewan could join forces with Winnipeg's MTS Centre as the main arena for one of the two pools and the medal round, with either Saskatoon or Regina hosting the other pool's games."

Lux Aurumque* 12-31-2012 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mzappa (Post 56957273)
Found this article.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/sports/sto...nada-bids.html

"Nicholson doesn't rule out inter-provincial bids. For example, Manitoba and Saskatchewan could join forces with Winnipeg's MTS Centre as the main arena for one of the two pools and the medal round, with either Saskatoon or Regina hosting the other pool's games."

Seems stupid considering that Saskatchewan just had it a few years ago.

Hammer Slammer 12-31-2012 10:01 AM

When was the last time we hosted? 1999? Would be nice to get in on one of the years listed above. 2005 in Grand Forks was fun but I'd rather take a bus for 10 minutes downtown. :D

Pavelec4MVP 12-31-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mzappa (Post 56957273)
Found this article.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/sports/sto...nada-bids.html

"Nicholson doesn't rule out inter-provincial bids. For example, Manitoba and Saskatchewan could join forces with Winnipeg's MTS Centre as the main arena for one of the two pools and the medal round, with either Saskatoon or Regina hosting the other pool's games."

Saskatoon wouldn't be a great idea

That is pretty far away (when hosting a hockey tournament)

Brandon seems more logical, in terms of distance.

But does Keystone have a reasonable seating capacity to host such a tournament?

Pavelec4MVP 12-31-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer Slammer (Post 56960213)
When was the last time we hosted? 1999? Would be nice to get in on one of the years listed above. 2005 in Grand Forks was fun but I'd rather take a bus for 10 minutes downtown. :D

I believe so, at the old Winnipeg Arena.

I saw Canada-Russia play that year

Bob E 12-31-2012 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer Slammer (Post 56960213)
When was the last time we hosted? 1999? Would be nice to get in on one of the years listed above. 2005 in Grand Forks was fun but I'd rather take a bus for 10 minutes downtown. :D

Yup. I saw the Sedins, and Swedes, get their butts kicked there. Swedes going in as the favorites, were seen as a big, skilled team, but couldn't get it done.

Also remember Brian Finley (Can) in warm-up, couldn't stop a beach ball. Continued that play into the NHL, as i recall. :sarcasm:

JetsHomer 12-31-2012 06:35 PM

I could see Brandon having trouble selling out. Its pretty far so i dount many people from Winnipeg woukd commute for non-Canadian games, and Brandon doesn't have the population to sell out others games.

intoronto1125 01-01-2013 10:19 AM

It would be smart to let 2015 be cohosted by Toronto/Hamilton and 2017 By Montreal/Quebec City (new arena).

Toomuts 01-01-2013 01:01 PM

I don't believe either Markham's or Quebec's new arena will be complete by 2015 so I would think Winnipeg's best shot would be in 2015 or 2021.

As Winnipeg (True North) has put bids in for both 2010 & 2012, and with the display of the demand for the Jets as well as the past success with the Women's World Championship in 2007 they should be a shoe-in for one of the 4 years Canada is hosting.

My prediction:
2015 - Winnipeg/Brandon
2017 - Montreal/Quebec (New arena)
2019 - Markham (New arena) /Toronto or Hamilton
2021 - Maritimes or Vancouver

blueandgoldguy 01-01-2013 01:46 PM

The bidding amounts for the World Juniors is huge now. And it results in correspondingly high ticket prices. Back in 1998-99, Winnipeg paid $1 million dollars to secure the World Juniors. I remember paying $230 or so for my ten game pack which included 3 Canadian games, Canada's QF match, Canada's semifinal match, and the Bronze and Gold Medal Games. My seat was just inside the blueline and about row 10 - 15 in the lower level.

Nowadays, bids for the World Juniors are usually in excess of $10 million and that means tickets packages, like the ones I bought, would probably work out to around $100 per game. The average ticket price would probably be similar to what we pay for the Jets right now.

As an aside, I think Calgary and Edmonton were selling 15 game packs last year(which they apparently sold out) for $1500 or so per package. Not sure how many seats were at that price point though. Nonetheless we should be expecting similar prices if Winnipeg was to host. Now I'm pretty confident Winnipeg would sellout those packages no problem, but I have a hard time believing Brandon could sellout their games at similar prices, especially when you consider they wouldn't receive any of the premium games. ANd we would need most of these games to be sellouts or near sellouts for Winnipeg to turn a profit.

Maybe the solution lies in that arena/agricultural proposal at the Ex site, the one with the 5,000 seat arena.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...?device=mobile

IF that gets built, that means all or nearly all the games could be held in Winnipeg. Anybody know what's the latest on that proposal?

Regardless, it will probably be several years before that's resolved so you would probably be looking at 2017 before that could be considered a viable alternative anyways. I still hope we get the World Juniors in the next 6 years or so.

mzappa 01-01-2013 01:56 PM

Anyone know if TNSE has put in a bid for 2015/2017/etc?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Toomuts (Post 56985357)
I don't believe either Markham's or Quebec's new arena will be complete by 2015 so I would think Winnipeg's best shot would be in 2015 or 2021.

As Winnipeg (True North) has put bids in for both 2010 & 2012, and with the display of the demand for the Jets as well as the past success with the Women's World Championship in 2007 they should be a shoe-in for one of the 4 years Canada is hosting.

My prediction:
2015 - Winnipeg/Brandon
2017 - Montreal/Quebec (New arena)
2019 - Markham (New arena) /Toronto or Hamilton
2021 - Maritimes or Vancouver


Hollywood3 01-01-2013 01:58 PM

Toronto and Montreal will be next. We are also after Vancouver. Look for us in 2021 at best.

Gungagalunga 01-02-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mzappa (Post 56956691)
Figure Winnipeg would be up next -- but I can't think of the secondary arena site (which would need renovations)...Brandon? Selkirk?

I always wondered why Max Bell was never upgraded on the North side (if memory serves correct). It used to seat in the 1500 range but I would assume with some modest infrastructure, could be upgraded to the 5K mark. Just a guess though.

BigZ65 01-02-2013 05:24 PM

It would be logistically cheaper to put together a Winnipeg/Grand Forks bid than Winnipeg/Saskatoon.


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