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Mirinho 12-31-2012 01:01 PM

Tournament Awards & All-Star Team (Post #1 for winners)
 
Official:

G: Gibson
D: Trouba
D: McCabe
F: RNH
F: Gaudreau
F: Forsberg

MVP: Gibson

Best G: Gibson
Best D: Trouba
Best F: RNH

http://www.worldjunior2013.com/en/ch...p/news/awards/


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group stage is over ... post your group A and B all stars team :)


group A:

Collberg - Hertl - Jaskin
Vikstrand - Ristolainen
Nyffeler


can't seriously judge group B .. I've seen only few matches

Zilo44 12-31-2012 01:03 PM

Huberdeau - Galchenyuk - Yakupov

Hamilton - Jones

Binnington
:sarcasm:

Canada4Gold 12-31-2012 01:05 PM

Collberg - Jaskin - Andrighetto
Vikstrand - Ristolainen
Bartosak

RNH - Galchenyuk - Kucherov
Trouba - Rielly
Subban

Mirinho 12-31-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zilo44 (Post 56964421)
Huberdeau - Galchenyuk - Yakupov
Hamilton - Jones

Binnington
:sarcasm:

so why almost every poster picks him as the biggest disappointment?
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1313999

Leo Trollmarov 12-31-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirinho (Post 56964535)
so why almost every poster picks him as the biggest disappointment?
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1313999

Because he is?

Leo Trollmarov 12-31-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirinho (Post 56964535)
so why almost every poster picks him as the biggest disappointment?
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1313999

Also, his players are the disappointments of the tourney.

LeHabsMan 12-31-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canada4Gold (Post 56964469)
Collberg - Jaskin - Andrighetto
Vikstrand - Ristolainen
Bartosak

RNH - Galchenyuk - Kucherov
Trouba - Rielly
Subban

Ouellet has been better.

Riseonfire 12-31-2012 01:22 PM

Seriously no Strome? Sheesh

MastuhNinks 12-31-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habs4TheCup (Post 56964885)
Ouellet has been better.

Debatable. I think the team has played its best when Rielly is on the ice and I don't think it's coincidence. He also leads all defensemen in the tournament in points and +/-.

Leo Trollmarov 12-31-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MastuhNinks (Post 56964963)
Debatable. I think the team has played its best when Rielly is on the ice and I don't think it's coincidence. He also leads all defensemen in the tournament in points and +/-.

Rielly technically is tied for 1st in D points, but IIHF missed his assist in the 1st game and gave it to the Nuge.

ToursLepantoVienna 12-31-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canada4Gold (Post 56964469)
Collberg - Jaskin - Andrighetto
Vikstrand - Ristolainen
Bartosak

RNH - Galchenyuk - Kucherov
Trouba - Rielly
Subban

Gibson has been better than Subban overall. You cannot be serious about Galchenyuk.

Canada4Gold 12-31-2012 02:12 PM

I would have put another Canadian there but didn't really want to have 2 Canadian forwards. Do you think there's anyone else in the group better than Galchenyuk? He's clearly been the best on his team, Russia really don't have any standouts, even Kucherov hasn't been the best, you could put Dano there but I don't really want to include relegation teams forwards

as for Gibson/Subban, Subban has been outstanding in his last 2 games, I don't really think you give it to the goalie with 2 losses against the teams that matter and his only wins over Germany and Slovakia

Bob E 12-31-2012 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zilo44 (Post 56964421)
Huberdeau - Galchenyuk - Yakupov

Hamilton - Jones

Binnington
:sarcasm:

Other than Jones, you have completely nailed the 'overhyped' team! Though, i'm sure IF Binnington had played, he wouldn't have made this team.

hototogisu 12-31-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToursLepantoVienna (Post 56965431)
Gibson has been better than Subban overall. You cannot be serious about Galchenyuk.

He's only the second leading scorer in the tournament. How unfathomable to include him on an all-star team.

vippe 12-31-2012 02:19 PM

Collberg hasnt been the best swedish forward so I wouldnt put him on the all-star team. Though his wicked shot will get him goals on the PP I do think there has been 4-5 better forwards on the team.

ToursLepantoVienna 12-31-2012 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hototogisu (Post 56966543)
He's only the second leading scorer in the tournament. How unfathomable to include him on an all-star team.

Unfathomable if you go by nothing but the stat sheets. If you really think he was a top-3 forward based on his game play, we can just agree to disagree.

Nice avatar, BTW.

Canada4Gold 12-31-2012 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vippe (Post 56966579)
Collberg hasnt been the best swedish forward so I wouldnt put him on the all-star team. Though his wicked shot will get him goals on the PP I do think there has been 4-5 better forwards on the team.

Tied for his team lead in points, only behind Arvidsson in golas and he had an EN goal. He can put the puck in the back of the net which is what matters which is more than can be said for some of the guys I was expecting to lead SWeden in that department

Canada4Gold 12-31-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToursLepantoVienna (Post 56966699)
Unfathomable if you go by nothing but the stat sheets. If you really think he was a top-3 forward based on his game play, we can just agree to disagree.

Nice avatar, BTW.

who do you have ahead of him from the group then?

All I see is you complaining about other people's posts, if you don't like them then make you own :shakehead

dmacgreg37 12-31-2012 02:28 PM

B group

RNH - Strome - Dano

Oulette - Trouba

Gibson

hototogisu 12-31-2012 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToursLepantoVienna (Post 56966699)
Unfathomable if you go by nothing but the stat sheets. If you really think he was a top-3 forward based on his game play, we can just agree to disagree.

Nice avatar, BTW.

I just think a "you cannot be serious" reaction is especially comedic. I'd be interested to know which centre in Group B has been so far ahead of Galchenyuk's play that it's absurd to even think of including him.

vippe 12-31-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canada4Gold (Post 56966727)
Tied for his team lead in points, only behind Arvidsson in golas and he had an EN goal. He can put the puck in the back of the net which is what matters which is more than can be said for some of the guys I was expecting to lead SWeden in that department

Exactly why you cant go by the stat sheet alone. If you watched the games I doubt you would say that Collberg has been the best forward on the Swedish team.

Canada4Gold 12-31-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vippe (Post 56966911)
Exactly why you cant go by the stat sheet alone. If you watched the games I doubt you would say that Collberg has been the best forward on the Swedish team.

I have watched all of Sweden's games, however the streams haven't been great, I don't understand Swedish language so I have no clue what the commentators are saying, and I don't really pay attention to who is who when it's not Canada.

But what I do know is these awards are usually given out based on stats, you don't see 3rd and 4th line players with 3 points winning them. I'd rather have what Collberg has done than what Lindholm, or Karlsson has done on my team any day

UsernameWasTaken 12-31-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hototogisu (Post 56966543)
He's only the second leading scorer in the tournament. How unfathomable to include him on an all-star team.

no way is galchenyuk one of the top 3 forwards in his group. his stats don't speak to how weak his play is. there probably 4 or 5 forwards on team canada alone who have been better.

hototogisu 12-31-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UsernameWasTaken (Post 56967189)
no way is galchenyuk one of the top 3 forwards in his group. his stats don't speak to how weak his play is. there probably 4 or 5 forwards on team canada alone who have been better.

I'd agree with that. Of course, Team Canada as a whole is considerably stronger than the U.S., so we're not exactly comparing apples to apples.

Galchenyuk has not been brilliant, and yet he's somehow the best forward (by leagues) on a weak team and second only to Nugent-Hopkins in scoring as an 18 year old. As a Habs fan, I'm more than content to console myself with that exceptionally weak and laughable play, at least according to some posters here.

Canada4Gold 12-31-2012 02:50 PM

I think if Galchenyuk had Schiefele, Huberdeau, Strome, Drouin, Hamilton, Rielly to play with he'd look a lot better than he has yet he's still managed to put up a fair number of points.

Fact is besides RNH this group doesn't have any standout guys that you say without a doubt they deserve to be in the top 3. They don't often fill the 3 stars for forwards all from the same team either.

You can laugh all you want but if they were giving out this award right not then Galchenyuk would get some serious consideration

I also find it kinda laughable that people are saying Galchenyuk doesn't deserve to be there and then they don't say who they think should be. If you think it's so hilariously laughable give me a list of player that you think should get it so I can laugh at yours. Problem is you cannot find 2 other guys that much better than Galchenyuk so you don't want to post it with Galchenyuk in it after you already laughed at it


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