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Punxrocknyc19* 01-01-2013 01:36 PM

redo 2008 draft
 
anyone else upset that the Rangers picked Del Zotto over Eberle during their draft year... I know the Rangers needed an offensive dman prospects but when you draft you draft for best player available, not for need at the moment...they could have used another skilled forward... Eberle is an awesome player...

Kershaw 01-01-2013 01:40 PM

John Carlson.

Edit: And no I'm not upset at all. We hit a homerun with the DZ draft pick.

HatTrick Swayze 01-01-2013 01:49 PM

Tough to complain about the DZ pick. When it happened I was more than content, though I would have taken Ennis or Carlson (at the time).

EDIT - Let's just say that in comparison to my feelings about other years the Rangers hit a home run.

broadwayblue 01-01-2013 02:07 PM

yeah, i'd much sooner have a redo of several other drafts in the last decade. MDZ is just fine.

Levitate 01-01-2013 02:25 PM

Sure lots of teams would have liked to take Eberle but it's kind of silly to go back through every draft and say "hey are you mad the team wasn't clairvoyant and picked this guy who turned out really great instead of the player they drafted???"

Eberle also isn't quite as good as his stats last year indicated, Hall is the real talent on that team, but Hall is also unfortunately injury prone at this point

Fitzy 01-01-2013 02:28 PM

A little more miffed about losing Kundratek for nothing, Weise for nothing, and for Grachev not panning out. I'd rank all of those things over the DZ pick for things i'm bothered by.

Weise would look good as the #4 RW in our lineup for cheap.

Punxrocknyc19* 01-01-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antithesis (Post 56987169)
A little more miffed about losing Kundratek for nothing, Weise for nothing, and for Grachev not panning out. I'd rank all of those things over the DZ pick for things i'm bothered by.

Weise would look good as the #4 RW in our lineup for cheap.

why would the Rangers want Voros JR on the team. no need for a punching bag. Haley will be on the 4th line when the year starts. i doubt he signed here to play in the AHL. he could have stayed on the Islanders if he wanted the best chance to stay in the NHL

Rangers Fail 01-01-2013 03:44 PM

The 2008 draft was one of the Rangers' best in a long time. Del Zotto at 20, Stepan at 51. We got a top for defenseman, and a top 6 center. Grachev was a bust, and we should have gotten more for Kundratek.

As for Eberle, yeah, he's a stud. But maybe he wasn't the BPA at the time. His stock really rose after the WJC's.

But if we're going to cry over drafts, we can start at 2003 and go from there. But that dead horse has been beaten a countless amount of times.

district9 01-01-2013 04:05 PM

I wanted Carlson over Del Zotto at the time and would still prefer him, but you can't complain. Del Zotto has a good role on the team and has played very well for most of his time in New York.

I Eat Crow 01-01-2013 05:54 PM

I was very pro Carlson at the time, but I didn't complain at all about Del Zotto. Ottawa did a hell of a job getting Karlsson at 15. Wow.

Rangerfan4life90 01-01-2013 06:04 PM

I was a huge Carlson fan prior to the draft and was disappointed we passed on him.

I warmed up to the MDZ pick, and both him and Carlson have turned out to be good players. Can't complain

BroadwayBlues 01-01-2013 06:05 PM

How about the 03 draft. :sarcasm:

Machinehead 01-01-2013 10:10 PM

I'm never upset over picks that turn out to be good players, even if guys behind him turn out to be better players. Plus, it's not like Del Zotto was a reach. Drafting is hard. All you can hope for is a good player. Hoping for a better player than the guys behind him is a total crapshoot.

Now when a guy completely sucks and someone behind him turns out better, and the pick was a reach to begin with, that's when I get upset. Like Mr. Jessiman for example.

Bird Law 01-01-2013 11:21 PM

I would take DZ over Carlson currently and I think for the future as well.

Cresto 01-01-2013 11:27 PM

The Carlson Vs. DZ idea will be much more interesting in 2 season's time.

Kershaw 01-02-2013 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCresty (Post 57001427)
The Carlson Vs. DZ idea will be much more interesting in 2 season's time.

There really is no debate. Carlson is heads and shoulders above DZ and should continue to be in the future. He was scary good his rookie year as a shutdown defender. Took a step back, but was still matching up against top lines night in night out. Once DZ gains Tortorella's trust in that role, we can start comparing the two.

Bleed Ranger Blue 01-02-2013 11:03 AM

Evgeny Grachev. LOL

I remember when half this board was penciling him in as a 40/40 guy.

Cresto 01-02-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue (Post 57013159)
Evgeny Grachev. LOL

I remember when half this board was penciling him in as a 40/40 guy.

he can still be a 40/40 guy ;)

Brian Boyle 01-02-2013 11:44 AM

It was a huge mistake. These are the picks I would have made:

20 1 Jordan Eberle
51 2 Derek Stepan
75 3 Adam Henrique
90 3 Braden Holtby
111 4 Andrei Loktionov
141 5 Matt Martin
171 6 Anders Lindback

Hindsight is a powerful tool.

nyr2k2 01-02-2013 11:50 AM

Del Zotto is a fine player and a great pick for the back of the first round. No need for a redo.

Trxjw 01-02-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -31- (Post 57014499)
It was a huge mistake. These are the picks I would have made:

20 1 Jordan Eberle
51 2 Derek Stepan
75 3 Adam Henrique
90 3 Braden Holtby
111 4 Andrei Loktionov
141 5 Matt Martin
171 6 Anders Lindback

Hindsight is a powerful tool.

I would have taken Nyquist over Loktionov. :p:

In reality, that was one of the best drafts this team has had in a long time. Their asset management after the fact was questionable, but whenever you get a top-4 D and a #2 center with late position in each round, you have to be happy with it.

Bird Law 01-02-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortorella (Post 57002991)
There really is no debate. Carlson is heads and shoulders above DZ and should continue to be in the future. He was scary good his rookie year as a shutdown defender. Took a step back, but was still matching up against top lines night in night out. Once DZ gains Tortorella's trust in that role, we can start comparing the two.

:facepalm:

Brian Boyle 01-02-2013 12:05 PM

Carlson was matching up against top lines because there is no other option. His competition on RD was Dennis Wideman and Mike Green. Del Zotto's competition is McDonagh and Staal.

TheRedressor 01-02-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -31- (Post 57015167)
Carlson was matching up against top lines because there is no other option. His competition on RD was Dennis Wideman and Mike Green. Del Zotto's competition is McDonagh and Staal.

This.


The love for John Carlson is becoming ridiculous.

Bird Law 01-02-2013 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRedressor (Post 57015557)
This.


The love for John Carlson is becoming ridiculous.

He's a very good D-man. Del Zotto provides us with the offense that we really need, though.


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