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Muuri 01-04-2013 10:13 AM

Next year's groups
 
If I recall right they are determined like this

Group A: 1,4,5,8,9

Group B: 2,3,6,7, winner of Division 1A

which would make next year groups look like:

A: Sweden/USA, Russia/Canada, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Germany
B: Sweden/USA, Russia/Canada, Switzerland, Finland, Norway

However 8 team quaterfinals are back next year, so they're might be changes.

dmacgreg37 01-04-2013 10:19 AM

Was just coming here to post this.

I honestly think that with the 8-team QF set-up, you're MUCH better to play the stronger group. There's no point in playing 3 easy-ish RR games and 1 difficult game, to end up first and be playing a strong 4th place team.

Challenge yourself for 2 or 3 tough games, play your easy 1 or 2 games and then go into the QF, possibly against a bit lesser opponent.


At this point, group B looks more difficult to me, although with graduations, I can't say I know enough about these teams for next year. Just general opinion would be that normally Fin>Cze, SWI>SVK, NOR<=GER

Also, group B would mean we win Bronze, so that's what I'm hoping for.

Gaps 01-04-2013 10:29 AM

I hope Sweden loses and Canada wins tomorrow, because I'd rather have Finland face them in the preliminary round than in the QFs.

Ville231 01-04-2013 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaps (Post 57095689)
I hope Sweden loses and Canada wins tomorrow, because I'd rather have Finland face them in the preliminary round than in the QFs.

Assuming that we get to the QFs :laugh:

dmacgreg37 01-04-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ville231 (Post 57095877)
Assuming that we get to the QFs :laugh:

Imagine the backlash at home if you lost to Norway and had to face Germany in a best-of-3 relegation series. Yikes.

I hope for Sweden and Canada wins, leaving us with

Sweden, Russia, Czech, Slovakia, Germany

USA, Canada, Switz, Finland, Norway

Would be interesting groups, would get Canada/USA and Sweden/Russia on NYE which would be nice.

Grammar Butcher 01-04-2013 10:52 AM

Those who ending up in Sweden's group will play in the 13000 seater Malmö Arena And the other group will play in the 5000 seater Malmö Isstadion

AwesomePanthers 01-04-2013 10:53 AM

Norway is in Germanys position next year. All tough teams..

Hope we can meet Sweden, so that means my Swedish brethren must lose tonight..

Gaps 01-04-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ville231 (Post 57095877)
Assuming that we get to the QFs :laugh:

If we can't beat Norway, then we should just stop playing hockey altogether.

Grammar Butcher 01-05-2013 12:56 PM

So:

A: USA, Canada, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Germany
B: Sweden, Russia, Switzerland, Finland, Norway

Whitesnake 01-05-2013 01:00 PM

So strangely, the group A has the disadvantage to play in an easier group 'cause even if you finish unbeaten, you have the chance, as the #1, to be eliminated by the Swiss or Finland in QF.

LubluXokkei 01-05-2013 01:12 PM

Group B is more even. And all are european countries..((

JAS 39 Gripen 01-05-2013 01:53 PM

aoooo looks like Finland will be in the relegation round next year aswell :(

Jeez 01-05-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAS 39 Gripen (Post 57139579)
aoooo looks like Finland will be in the relegation round next year aswell :(

A new format will be implemented for the Top Division. The four best ranked teams from each group of the preliminary round will advance to the quarterfinals, while the last placed teams from each group will play a relegation round in a best of three format to determine the relegated team.

Wasted Talent 01-05-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAS 39 Gripen (Post 57139579)
aoooo looks like Finland will be in the relegation round next year aswell :(

Since it will be 8 teams in QFs next year, that would be a huge upset.

FinRuutu 01-05-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAS 39 Gripen (Post 57139579)
aoooo looks like Finland will be in the relegation round next year aswell :(

Actually if history repeats it self Finland wins gold :laugh:

Small Brain Presence 01-05-2013 06:24 PM

There is no chance of 12 teams in the A Pool next year or subsequent years? 80% in the playoffs makes the CFL look stringent.

timekeep 01-05-2013 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Small Brain Presence (Post 57150073)
There is no chance of 12 teams in the A Pool next year or subsequent years? 80% in the playoffs makes the CFL look stringent.

this is a joke, makes the prelim games more meaningless. Only advantage is no bye and Canada has been hurt by not having another game to jell with the bye. I would like to see them go to the system that curling uses.

1 vs 2
3 vs 4
loser of 1-2 plays winner of 3-4 and then winner of this game plays winner of 1-2 game.

For WJCs it could be
A1 vs B1
A2 vs B2
loser of A1 vs B1 plays winner of A2 vs B2 and then winner of this game plays winner of A1 vs B1 game. Really rewards the prelims games.

PensBeerGeek 01-05-2013 09:20 PM

What kinds of North American start times are we looking at for games next year?

New Sabres Captain 01-05-2013 09:40 PM

So...NYE USA/Canada showdown? Nice....


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