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shureshot66 01-06-2013 05:16 AM

Penguins 2013 (and beyond) lineup discussion | Contract chart in Post #1
 
Oh, hey, we've got a team again.

As always, all figures are cap numbers, not salaries, and are taken directly from www.capgeek.com.


2012-2013 salary ceiling: .................70,200,000
Projected cap spending: ..................61,124,333
Projected cap space: .......................9,075,667

2013-2014 salary ceiling: .................64,300,000
Projected cap spending: ..................51,958,333
Projected cap space: .......................12,341,667
(14 players signed)



PITTSBURGH PENGUINS
Forward.................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Sidney Crosby
C
25
8,700,000
8,700,000
8,700,000
Evgeni Malkin
C
26
8,700,000
8,700,000
UFA
James Neal
RW
25
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Chris Kunitz
LW
33
3,725,000
3,725,000
UFA
Brandon Sutter
C
23
2,066,667
2,066,667
RFA
Tyler Kennedy
RW
26
2,000,000
RFA
 
Matt Cooke
LW
34
1,800,000
UFA
 
Pascal Dupuis
RW
33
1,500,000
UFA
 
Tanner Glass
LW
29
1,100,000
1,100,000
UFA
Eric Tangradi
LW
23
726,000
RFA
 
Craig Adams
RW
35
675,000
UFA
 
Dustin Jeffrey
C
24
575,000
RFA
 
Joe Vitale
C
27
550,000
550,000
UFA
Defense.................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Paul Martin
D
31
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Brooks Orpik
D
32
3,750,000
3,750,000
UFA
Kris Letang
D
25
3,500,000
3,500,000
UFA
Matt Niskanen
D
26
2,300,000
2,300,000
UFA
Simon Despres
D
21
840,000
840,000
RFA
Deryk Engelland
D
30
566,667
566,667
UFA
Ben Lovejoy
D
28
525,000
UFA
 
Robert Bortuzzo
D
23
525,000
RFA
 
Goalie....................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Marc-Andre Fleury
G
28
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Tomas Vokoun
G
36
2,000,000
2,000,000
UFA



WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS
Forward...............
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Jayson Megna
C
22
925,000
925,000
RFA
Beau Bennett
RW
21
900,000
900,000
900,000
Brian Gibbons
C
24
900,000
RFA
 
Paul Thompson
RW
24
900,000
RFA
 
Tom Kuhnhackl
LW
20
821,667
821,667
821,667
Benn Ferriero
RW
25
700,000
RFA
 
Steve MacIntyre
LW
32
625,000
625,000
UFA
Philippe Dupuis
C
27
600,000
UFA
 
Warren Peters
LW
30
600,000
UFA
 
Dominik Uher
C
20
600,000
600,000
600,000
Trevor Smith
C
27
575,000
UFA
 
Zach Sill
C
24
535,000
RFA
 
Riley Holzapfel
C
24
525,000
RFA
 
Defense...............
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Brian Dumoulin
D
21
900,000
900,000
900,000
Philip Samuelsson
D
21
900,000
900,000
RFA
Joe Morrow
D
20
894,167
894,167
894,167
Dylan Reese
D
28
600,000
UFA
 
Alex Grant
D
23
525,000
RFA
 
Goalie..................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Jeff Zatkoff
G
25
525,000
525,000
UFA
Brad Thiessen
G
26
525,000
UFA
 



WHEELING NAILERS
Forward...............
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Adam Payerl
RW
21
850,000
850,000
850,000
Keven Veilleux
RW
23
525,000
RFA
 
Defense...............
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Reid McNeill
D
20
558,333
558,333
558,333
Carl Sneep
D
24
525,000
RFA
 
Goalie..................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Patrick Killeen
G
22
548,333
RFA
 



SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
Pos.
Age
Current Team
Contract
Derrick Pouliot
D
18
Portland (WHL)
3 years/1,350,000 per
Olli Maatta
D
18
London (OHL)
3 years/925,000 per
Scott Harrington
D
19
London (OHL)
3 years/894,167 per



UNSIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
Pos.
Age
Current Team (League)
Kenny Agostino
F
20
Yale (ECAC)
Josh Archibald
F
20
Nebraska-Omaha (WCHA)
Teddy Blueger
F
18
Minnesota State (WCHA)
Nick D'Agostino
D
22
Cornell (ECAC)
Ben Hanowski
F
22
St. Cloud State (WCHA)
Sean Maguire
G
19
Boston University (HEA)
Matia Marcantuoni
F
18
Kitchener (OHL)
Matt Murray
G
18
Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
Alexander Pechurskiy
G
22
Orsk (VHL)
Harrison Ruopp
D
19
Prince Albert (WHL)
Bryan Rust
F
20
Notre Dame (CCHA)
Clark Seymour
D
19
Peterborough (OHL)
Oskar Sundqvist
F
18
Skellefteċ (SEL)
Alex Velischek
D
22
Providence (HEA)
Scott Wilson
F
20
UMass-Lowell (HEA)
Anton Zlobin
F
19
Val d'Or (QMJHL)

deakka 01-06-2013 05:25 AM

Rumour going around that teams can have 2 buyouts. Somehow i feel the pens get shafted because i dont even think we will buy out 1 player. But, what the heck. Hockey is back so i cant be too mad about it :P

Will Hunting 01-06-2013 05:29 AM

Hoping for:

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Bennett-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Glass-Vitale-Jeffrey

Hopefully there are Jeffrey and Bennett over Adams and Tangradi, but I doubt about it.

Bortuzzo should be a 6th D-man probably over Despres/Lovejoy/Strait etc.

shureshot66 01-06-2013 05:29 AM

Plenty of flexibility for this season, particularly to add players with expiring contracts.

The tricky business, obviously, will be 2013-14. Might have caught a slight break that the owners finally moved off of their $60 million number for the ceiling. It will instead be $64.3 million, the same as the 2011-12 season. The Pens have 14 players signed with about $12 million left to fill out the roster. Thankfully any new deals for Malkin and Letang wouldn't kick in until the year after, when hopefully things will be back on the upswing and there will be more room to re-sign them.

Also to consider: teams are allowed to use up to two "compliance" buyouts prior to the start of the 2013-14 season. The more options Shero and Botterill have at their disposal, the better.

With that out of the way, though... it's almost time to drop the puck on this season.

Rob Rossi ‏@RobRossi_Trib
Malkin: "Very excited' to soon be on a plane to #Pittsburgh, practice with @penguins teammates. #NHLdeal

Josh Yohe ‏@JoshYohe_Trib
Pascal Dupuis: "We need a week as a team to be ready. That's all. And we will be ready."

Rob Rossi ‏@RobRossi_Trib
A few days before Malkin, Gonchar back in North America: They are in Bratislava right now, headed back to Moscow to get stuff. #NHLdeal

M0NTY26 01-06-2013 05:40 AM

Man, time to get excited all over again.

Sutter moving in to reinvent the 3rd line. No more J. Staal (Sadface.) Vokoun in, on a shortened season, to light that fire back under Flowers ass. I really think this is a great move on Shero's part.

Oh. And a season, even if it is shortened in length, full of a healthy Pens team.

HOCKEY'S BACK!

Tender Rip 01-06-2013 05:56 AM

Kunitz Crosby Dupuis
Neal Malkin Kennedy
Cooke Sutter Jeffrey
Glass Vitale Tangradi

Orpik Letang
Martin Engelland
Despres Niskanen
Bortuzzo

Vokoun
Fleury :p:

Hopefully Tangradi can push his way further up the lineup and we can find a way to add a top6/RH shot for the PP winger for Crosby's line.

Otherwise we should be good.... if the demented D/PK/Goalie-showing of the Philly series is behind us.

wej20 01-06-2013 06:04 AM

with training camp being very short does that mean that less AHL guys are going to g.et invited to it?

I'd buy out Lovejoy (if that's possible) and go with this lineup for the first few weeks.

Kunitz - Malkin - Neal
Tangradi/Bennett - Crosby - Dupuis
Cooke - Sutter - Kennedy
Glass - Vitale - Jeffrey/Adams

Orpik - Letang
Martin - Niskanen
Strait/Bortuzzo - Engelland
Bortuzzo/Strait

then decide what to do going forward. Do you think there is any chance that someone decent becomes available after being bought out?

Sutter16 01-06-2013 06:06 AM

:yo: great to have the Penguins back!!!!
Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Tangradi-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Glass-Vitale-Adams

Letang-Orpik
Niskanen-Engelland
Martin-Despres

Fleury
Vokoun

shureshot66 01-06-2013 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wej20 (Post 57171613)
with training camp being very short does that mean that less AHL guys are going to g.et invited to it?

I'd buy out Lovejoy (if that's possible) and go with this lineup for the first few weeks.

Kunitz - Malkin - Neal
Tangradi/Bennett - Crosby - Dupuis
Cooke - Sutter - Kennedy
Glass - Vitale - Jeffrey/Adams

Orpik - Letang
Martin - Niskanen
Strait/Bortuzzo - Engelland
Bortuzzo/Strait

then decide what to do going forward. Do you think there is any chance that someone decent becomes available after being bought out?

I would think that most of the guys who will be bought out this quickly would be the truly colossal failures -- Hi, Wade Redden -- but we haven't heard all the details on how the buyouts will work.

Teams have until the start of next season to exercise the buyouts, so one imagines most GMs would wait to see what they have first. I doubt it will be like after the last lockout where teams had to immediately slash salary to open the season and start signing free agents.

Shrimper 01-06-2013 06:26 AM

Have to say that there's been fantastic cap management if you look at the team next year being under the cap by $12m.

#66 01-06-2013 06:29 AM

I really hate the idea of buy outs. Why reward teams like the Rangers for making mistakes? I guess the Islanders finally part ways with Yashin.

As the Pens move ahead I really hope they use cap space to stack up their top 6 F's and top 4 D. Sure its nice to be well rounded but there's enough quality coming through the pipeline to have some holes.

GarrettC 01-06-2013 06:36 AM

I am really excited to watch hockey again, that being said I think the team is significantly weaker than the one that got throttled by Philly last year.

OnMyOwn 01-06-2013 06:38 AM

I almost forgot we had Vokoun.

I'm interested to see who plays with Sid as well.

End of Line 01-06-2013 06:58 AM

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Tangradi-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Glass-Vitale-Adams
Jeffrey

Martin-Letang
Orpik-Niskanen
Despres-Engelland
Lovejoy

Flower
Vokoun

My guess on what the roster will look like.

DreamBeaut 01-06-2013 07:03 AM

Ray Shero has done a fantastic job positioning the Penguins for the new cap realities.

Frederick Stanley 01-06-2013 07:04 AM

Is Bennett ready to make the jump? Would be a shame if we call him up early.

BrunoPuntzJones 01-06-2013 07:05 AM

I've seen a few people mention being impressed with Phil Samuelsson's play in WBS this year. He's looked good to me, too. Does anyone think he has a real future with the NHL team?

DreamBeaut 01-06-2013 07:06 AM

also, my understanding is that buyouts can begin following this season.

deakka 01-06-2013 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomOTO (Post 57173011)
I've seen a few people mention being impressed with Phil Samuelsson's play in WBS this year. He's looked good to me, too. Does anyone think he has a real future with the NHL team?

I said in the WBS thread a few games ago that i might need to start consider him a prospect again as i had written him off tbh.

Hes good defensively and really good on the PK. We do however have a huge logjam on defense. But in a few years i dont see why he couldnt be in the NHL.

Shrimper 01-06-2013 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frederick Stanley (Post 57172975)
Is Bennett ready to make the jump? Would be a shame if we call him up early.

I think it's probably a bit early for him. Let him have a full season in the AHL then bring him up next season. Obviously, if there's injuries then he'd be brought up.

Saving Greiss 01-06-2013 07:09 AM

Kunitz/Tangradi - Malkin - Neal
Kunitz/Tangradi - Crosby - Dupuis
Cooke - Sutter - Kennedy
Vitale - Adams - Jeffrey

*Stolen from Tender Rip*
Orpik - Letang
Martin - Engelland
Despres - Niskanen

Fleury
Vokoun

Shrimper 01-06-2013 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flaproosta08 (Post 57173025)
also, my understanding is that buyouts can begin following this season.

Correct. They can be used for the 2013-14 season.

PensBandwagonerNo272 01-06-2013 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flaproosta08 (Post 57172931)
Ray Shero has done a fantastic job positioning the Penguins for the new cap realities.

Absolutely. We're in superb shape.

JTG 01-06-2013 07:57 AM

If Geno takes an identical deal to Sid with the 8 year max, his cap hit will be 10.8 million.

Tender Rip 01-06-2013 08:06 AM

Just like I was saying for the longest time that Sid would take 8.7, I will take bets that Geno will not ask for a higher cap-hit than Sid, and will thus get 8 years, or less years if for some reason he prefers that, at 8.7 per.


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