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simplefan 01-06-2013 06:09 AM

It's going to be an exciting week
 
Remember just before the lockout, some MAJOR deals were close. Now if training camp starts on Wednesday, the following days will showcase a Luongo move, severals signings.

So which are the potential moves, you would expect?

BonkTastic 01-06-2013 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by simplefan (Post 57171737)
Remember just before the lockout, some MAJOR deals were close. Now if training camp starts on Wednesday, the following days will showcase a Luongo move, severals signings.


So which are the potential moves, you would expect?

For moves, I expect there to be a TON. The Luongo/Schneider situation will resolve itself quickly, IMO.

Buyouts are going to be fast and furious. Obvious names include (though probably not ALL of them will get bought out):
Ville Leino
Shawn Horcoff
Scott Gomez
Mike Komisarek
Keith Ballard

... also, I think there might be one or two guys who get bought out, guys who will catch us blindsided, and the general reaction among fans will be something like "that guy still had value, why didn't they trade him instead?"

NinjaSlap 01-06-2013 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BonkTastic (Post 57171985)
For moves, I expect there to be a TON. The Luongo/Schneider situation will resolve itself quickly, IMO.

Buyouts are going to be fast and furious. Obvious names include (though probably not ALL of them will get bought out):
Ville Leino
Shawn Horcoff
Scott Gomez
Mike Komisarek
Keith Ballard

... also, I think there might be one or two guys who get bought out, guys who will catch us blindsided, and the general reaction among fans will be something like "that guy still had value, why didn't they trade him instead?"

Leafs need Komisarek and he only has one year left (I believe). He won't be bought out.

BonkTastic 01-06-2013 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSlap (Post 57172017)
Leafs need Komisarek and he only has one year left (I believe). He won't be bought out.

Komi has 2 years left, this year and 2013-14.

Komisarek is one of the main reasons I added the caveat there saying not all of them would get bought out immediately.

I actually think he's 100% going to get bought out, only the leafs will do it at the END of the season. Remember, teams get until the 2013-14 season to buy out their two guys. Use Komi this year, can him in the offseason, and replace him via a better UFA.

TheOriginalSilf* 01-06-2013 06:26 AM

I'd take a shot at Ballard for one year. :dunno:

simplefan 01-06-2013 06:26 AM

will Ottawa use one of their Buyouts?

Will Ottawa trade for Hjammasson? especially because of Cowen.

Will Ottawa trade for a top 6? Trade Mika?

NinjaSlap 01-06-2013 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by simplefan (Post 57172113)
will Ottawa use one of their Buyouts?

Will Ottawa trade for Hjammasson? especially because of Cowen.

Will Ottawa trade for a top 6? Trade Mika?

No buyouts from Ottawa probably.

jhjhjhjhjhjh* 01-06-2013 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BonkTastic (Post 57171985)
For moves, I expect there to be a TON. The Luongo/Schneider situation will resolve itself quickly, IMO.

Buyouts are going to be fast and furious. Obvious names include (though probably not ALL of them will get bought out):
Ville Leino
Shawn Horcoff
Scott Gomez
Mike Komisarek
Keith Ballard

... also, I think there might be one or two guys who get bought out, guys who will catch us blindsided, and the general reaction among fans will be something like "that guy still had value, why didn't they trade him instead?"

Gomez's contract won't get bought out, there's only three years left on his contract and next year he'll be worth 5 million $. He can still play hockey too.

BonkTastic 01-06-2013 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSilfverBullet (Post 57172109)
I'd take a shot at Ballard for one year. :dunno:

Absolutely. If Ballard gets cut loose by the Canucks, I'm in.

Ballard is still a very capable NHL defenceman assuming you're only looking at him in a 5/6 role. I even think he has 2nd pair upside, if everything goes right and a change of scenery can let him find his game again.

Ballard's problem is he's getting paid like a low-end 1st pairing defenceman, when at this point he's a bottom pairing #5 guy. Just his luck: we need a bottom pairing, #5 guy!

NinjaSlap 01-06-2013 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jhjhjhjhjhjh (Post 57172173)
Gomez's contract won't get bought out, there's only three years left on his contract and next year he'll be worth 5 million $. He can still play hockey too.

You're probably thinking of Gionta.

BonkTastic 01-06-2013 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jhjhjhjhjhjh (Post 57172173)
Gomez's contract won't get bought out, there's only three years left on his contract and next year he'll be worth 5 million $. He can still play hockey too.

Well, I think one of Gomez or Kaberle gets bought out. Their combined contracts puts the Habs in a tight spot.

Like Komisarek, I think the only chance he doesn't get bought out immediately is if the Habs feel as though their center depth this year is too thin, there's not enough time to replace him considering how little time we have until the beginning of the season, and wait until next season's offseason to buy him out.

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Originally Posted by NinjaSlap (Post 57172211)
You're probably thinking of Gionta.

This. Gionta's hella-useful. Gomez... ehh... not so much.

TheOriginalSilf* 01-06-2013 06:34 AM

If Gomez doesn't get bought out, that'd be the biggest surprise of the century.

Patvolcom65 01-06-2013 06:35 AM

Don't worry we will prob sign Gilroy back. then hes gonna eat baby like Crosby. :sarcasm:

NinjaSlap 01-06-2013 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BonkTastic (Post 57172241)
Well, I think one of Gomez or Kaberle gets bought out. Their combined contracts puts the Habs in a tight spot.

Like Komisarek, I think the only chance he doesn't get bought out immediately is if the Habs feel as though their center depth this year is too thin, there's not enough time to replace him considering how little time we have until the beginning of the season, and wait until next season's offseason to buy him out.

Tomas Plekanec, David Desharnais, Lars Eller, Alex Galchenyuk (assuming he makes the team) can all play down the middle.

jhjhjhjhjhjh* 01-06-2013 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSlap (Post 57172211)
You're probably thinking of Gionta.

No, not at all. Next year he'll be due 5 million and the year after 4.5 million.

BonkTastic 01-06-2013 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSilfverBullet (Post 57172273)
If Gomez doesn't get bought out, that'd be the biggest surprise of the century.

Wouldn't surprise me if Geoff Molson is probably single-handedly responsible for the details of the buy-out clause... :sarcasm:

jhjhjhjhjhjh* 01-06-2013 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BonkTastic (Post 57172241)
Well, I think one of Gomez or Kaberle gets bought out. Their combined contracts puts the Habs in a tight spot.

Like Komisarek, I think the only chance he doesn't get bought out immediately is if the Habs feel as though their center depth this year is too thin, there's not enough time to replace him considering how little time we have until the beginning of the season, and wait until next season's offseason to buy him out.



This. Gionta's hella-useful. Gomez... ehh... not so much.

Gomez can still play hockey and be useful, I don't think Bergevin wants to buy him out. He'll probably ride out his contract.

Patvolcom65 01-06-2013 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BonkTastic (Post 57172315)
Wouldn't surprise me if Geoff Molson is probably single-handedly responsible for the details of the buy-out clause... :sarcasm:

We could trade him our 2buy-outs for Subban.:sarcasm:

BonkTastic 01-06-2013 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jhjhjhjhjhjh (Post 57172301)
No, not at all. Next year he'll be due 5 million and the year after 4.5 million.

Problem isn't what he makes. Montreal has money. The problem is his cap hit.

NinjaSlap 01-06-2013 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BonkTastic (Post 57172351)
Problem isn't what he makes. Montreal has money. The problem is his cap hit.

Isn't it 7.3 mil or something like that?

BonkTastic 01-06-2013 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSlap (Post 57172397)
Isn't it 7.3 mil or something like that?

$7.357/year for the next 2 years.

jhjhjhjhjhjh* 01-06-2013 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BonkTastic (Post 57172351)
Problem isn't what he makes. Montreal has money. The problem is his cap hit.

Don't get me wrong I want Gomez to get bought out but I'm not so sure Bergevin will do it.

Ouroboros 01-06-2013 06:45 AM

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't expect a whole lot of movement. In a short season every team is going to believe they have a shot at making the playoffs so they won't be keen to move players off their roster.

Teams will address the falling cap in the summer with compliance buyouts and things of that nature.

NinjaSlap 01-06-2013 06:48 AM

If the Habs buyout Gomez and Kaberle, they'd have about 12 mil in cap space. Some of which would go to signing PK.

internetdotcom 01-06-2013 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSlap (Post 57172569)
If the Habs buyout Gomez and Kaberle, they'd have about 12 mil in cap space. Some of which would go to signing PK.

This. Also frees up money for the future to re-sign guys like Galchenyuk.


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