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wings5 01-06-2013 08:35 PM

Seth Jones v.s Darnell Nurse
 
Obviously Seth Jones is the more highly regarded and known prospect but Nurse is also a potential first rounder. What is the big separating factor between these two defenceman?

Sticks and Pucks 01-06-2013 08:42 PM

I'm guessing it's Jones' offensive capabilities.

R S 01-06-2013 08:57 PM

Jones offensive ability, size, reach, physical potential and poise with the puck are a few things that separate him from any other D at this point for me.

wings5 01-06-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Renegade Stylings (Post 57215543)
Jones offensive ability, size, reach, physical potential and poise with the puck are a few things that separate him from any other D at this point for me.

The other points probably yes you can argue for but Jones is not bigger than Nurse nor does he have more physical potential.

Hardyvan123 01-06-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Renegade Stylings (Post 57215543)
Jones offensive ability, size, reach, physical potential and poise with the puck are a few things that separate him from any other D at this point for me.

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Originally Posted by wings5 (Post 57215777)
The other points probably yes you can argue for but Jones is not bigger than Nurse nor does he have more physical potential.

Nurse will be bigger and more physical but Jones beats him, by quite a bit , in all of the other categories.

Jones presence is also going to be big enough on the back end to be more important than the physical game Nurse has, depending on the NHL rules staying the same and not changing.

Exit Dose 01-06-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Renegade Stylings (Post 57215543)
Jones offensive ability, size, reach, physical potential and poise with the puck are a few things that separate him from any other D at this point for me.

While I would give the edge to Jones in most categories, Nurse might be closer to him than you think.

wings5 01-06-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardyvan123 (Post 57215949)
Nurse will be bigger and more physical but Jones beats him, by quite a bit , in all of the other categories.

Jones presence is also going to be big enough on the back end to be more important than the physical game Nurse has, depending on the NHL rules staying the same and not changing.

I agree Jones' poise is likely unparalleled among defenceman, Offensive potential there is a few defenceman who have arguably a higher offensive upside. I'm not entirely sure Jones is a better skater than Nurse though, it's close.

Marvelous Manked 01-06-2013 09:12 PM

I think they're a lot closer than most would think.

Human Bean 01-06-2013 09:18 PM

Jones' mom is hotter.

Exit Dose 01-06-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Manked (Post 57216199)
I think they're a lot closer than most would think.

Yeah, I could see how five years from now Jones vs. Nurse being to 2013 what Doughty vs. Pietrangelo was to 2008.

7even 01-06-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo (Post 57216487)
Jones' mom is hotter.

This is a fact.

HabLover 01-06-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Exit Dose (Post 57216123)
While I would give the edge to Jones in most categories, Nurse might be closer to him than you think.

I was very impressed with Nurse last year as an underage at the IIHF U18's.

I didn't come away really the same about Jones but there is no denying he is an elite prospect. Perhaps Jones is a 'jack of all trades', but maybe not great at one thing in particular? Another '94 d-man seemed to outshine him again in Trouba. Last year it was Dumba at the U18's.

Konk 01-06-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HabLover (Post 57218749)
I was very impressed with Nurse last year as an underage at the IIHF U18's.

I didn't come away really the same about Jones but there is no denying he is an elite prospect. Perhaps Jones is a 'jack of all trades', but maybe not great at one thing in particular? Another '94 d-man seemed to outshine him again in Trouba. Last year it was Dumba at the U18's.

You must've only watched the stat sheet at last year's u18s. Dumba was offensively superb, but was exposed left and right defensively and made to look like Swiss cheese. Jones was more steady and had a more positive impact at the tourney overall with rock solid defensive play.

Exit Dose 01-06-2013 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Konk (Post 57219055)
You must've only watched the stat sheet at last year's u18s. Dumba was offensively superb, but was exposed left and right defensively and made to look like Swiss cheese. Jones was more steady and had a more positive impact at the tourney overall with rock solid defensive play.

I'd add that he was also a force of nature in that gold medal game.

TheJuxtaposer 01-06-2013 10:42 PM

Offensive ability, and hockey IQ.

Faidh ar Rud Eigin 01-06-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HabLover (Post 57218749)
I was very impressed with Nurse last year as an underage at the IIHF U18's.

I didn't come away really the same about Jones but there is no denying he is an elite prospect. Perhaps Jones is a 'jack of all trades', but maybe not great at one thing in particular? Another '94 d-man seemed to outshine him again in Trouba. Last year it was Dumba at the U18's.

Jones excels in just about everything.

Nurse is really climbing up after his disapointing rookie season but he's simply not as talented as Jones.

canovin 01-07-2013 12:53 AM

Nurse wins in the fighting department. He's mean and is nowhere close to being filled out. Lots of potential

Sidney the Kidney 01-07-2013 01:39 AM

Nurse's offensive upside is hard to get a read on. In the game today, the Soo seemed to go with Sproul and Miller as their point men on the PP. So I'm not sure how much Nurse is relied upon for his offense.

Nurse looked about the third best defenseman on the Soo, while Jones has looked like the best defenseman on his team any time I've seen him.

The Nuge 01-07-2013 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wings5 (Post 57215777)
The other points probably yes you can argue for but Jones is not bigger than Nurse nor does he have more physical potential.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Nurse an inch bigger, but Jones like 10-15 pounds heavier?

Billy Mays Here 01-07-2013 03:19 AM

Can't really add anything to the argument but I will say that Nurse is a beast in NHL 13 Be a GM mode when you draft him. Plus you don't even have to have a high pick as he usually gets drafted somewhere in the 20-25th pick range. :D

Just wanted to say that for anyone that plays the game.

wings5 01-07-2013 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Nuge (Post 57226101)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Nurse an inch bigger, but Jones like 10-15 pounds heavier?

Yes Nurse is 1-2 inches taller, but not as filled out as Jones is yet.

Exit Dose 01-07-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sidney the Kidney (Post 57225591)
Nurse's offensive upside is hard to get a read on. In the game today, the Soo seemed to go with Sproul and Miller as their point men on the PP. So I'm not sure how much Nurse is relied upon for his offense.

Nurse looked about the third best defenseman on the Soo, while Jones has looked like the best defenseman on his team any time I've seen him.

They relied on him for offense when Sproul was out. He shot up the rankings in that time because he showed that he was more than capable of providing that.

barrytrotzsneck 01-07-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tom servo (Post 57216487)
jones' mom is hotter.

i know, right!

StrongIslanders90 01-07-2013 01:14 PM

If your father is popeye then your probablly pretty freaking awsome...

scdn 01-07-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo (Post 57216487)
Jones' mom is hotter.

Hellooooooooo Nurse!


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