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Mr. Canucklehead 01-06-2013 08:50 PM

Luongo Talk: The Final Countdown...?
 
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Vankiller Whale 01-06-2013 08:52 PM


craigcaulks* 01-06-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale (Post 57217839)

The year was 1987, my grad class was deciding on a song for our theme. I was by no means cutting edge, but a small group of us fought for the Beastie Boys, Fight for Your Right. The cool kids won and Europe it was. Their coolness ended that day.

Canucker 01-06-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by craigcaulks (Post 57218101)
The year was 1987, my grad class was deciding on a song for our theme. I was by no means cutting edge, but a small group of us fought for the Beastie Boys, Fight for Your Right. The cool kids won and Europe it was. Their coolness ended that day.

It will be their epitath. You can't front on the Beasties.

Drop the Sopel 01-06-2013 09:28 PM

So, will Luongo's salary count against the cap after he retires?

KidCanuck* 01-06-2013 09:31 PM

Really want him to go to Florida, I have really enjoyed watching Burke failing in Toronto and want it to continue......

keslerburrows 01-06-2013 09:34 PM

Man I hope this is down before the season does start.

PG Canuck 01-06-2013 09:35 PM

Hopefully he goes to Florida as we usually if not always come out on top in trades with them. They're just so generous.

Drop the Sopel 01-06-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PG Canuck (Post 57219473)
Hopefully he goes to Florida as we usually if not always come out on top in trades with them. They're just so generous.

We haven't done very well of late. Killed in the Ballard trade and so far we've lost the Booth trade...

Pseudonymous 01-06-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PG Canuck (Post 57219473)
Hopefully he goes to Florida as we usually if not always come out on top in trades with them. They're just so generous.

I'd give an edge to Florida on the Samuelsson trade

Sure Booth has upside but we're not sure if he'll reach that. And even if he does, Samuelsson still might bring more to a team competing for the cup. Samuelsson is a fantastic player. Underrated because hes not as entertaining as Booth , nor as young or good looking ;)

Samuelsson is the type of guy you win in the playoffs with. Something we lack.

MORE SAMULESSONS AND HARTNELLS PLZ

Drop the Sopel 01-06-2013 09:42 PM

Yeah, nobody is going to make a convincing case for David Booth being a better howckey player than Mikael Samuelsson. Stats based or otherwise.

David Booth is essentially a poor man's Samuelsson...

Bgav 01-06-2013 09:45 PM

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arsmaster 01-06-2013 09:47 PM

We got killed in the Ballard deal?

We have Ballard they have Howden. Forgive me for preferring Ballard to Howden.

Booth a poor mans Samuelsson? I like Samuelsson as much as the next guy, but I can't recall Samuelsson driving to the net.

For the flack Booth gets on here, he's one of maybe two players on our roster than have size and consistently take the puck to the crease.

LeftCoast 01-06-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Drop the Sopel (Post 57219147)
So, will Luongo's salary count against the cap after he retires?

No. Under the old CBA, for players under 35 years old (or more correctly under 35 when the contract comes into effect) , if the player retires, the player's salary does not count against the salary cap.

PG Canuck 01-06-2013 09:48 PM

I'm willing to give Booth a little longer before saying who won and who lost.

Pseudonymous 01-06-2013 09:49 PM

Flack? Not from me. I love booth. And his driving to the net is something we need. But not as much as what we get from samuelsson. Hes just a VERY smart player who plays with an edge and can put up points regardless if its a tight game or open game. And always heightened his game in the playoffs.

I expect booth to always be a player that just chips in in the playoffs and hardly any type of force. Sure he'll get his 25-30 goals in the season. and thats great

And you dont compare the ballard trade without grabner, who cares what they did with him, they got a good player. Them giving him away doesn't change our trade with them. They got howden and the rookie of the year in grabner.

our team believes in players with defensive ability too, not all teams believe every scorer needs to be real good defensively too. lots of scorers have been ****** defensively and still helped their teams a great deal

just because he didn't fit our teams expectations and he isnt' a well rounded player doesn't make him not a good piece

arsmaster 01-06-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PG Canuck (Post 57220013)
I'm willing to give Booth a little longer before saying who won and who lost.

Yup we have a player and a pick to show for the deal.

Florida has NOTHING.

Tim Calhoun 01-06-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by arsmaster (Post 57220061)
Yup we have a player and a pick to show for the deal.

Florida has NOTHING.

They're not the ones paying over 4 million for a mediocre hockey player.

keslerburrows 01-06-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by arsmaster (Post 57219953)
Booth a poor mans Samuelsson? I like Samuelsson as much as the next guy, but I can't recall Samuelsson driving to the net.

For the flack Booth gets on here, he's one of maybe two players on our roster than have size and consistently take the puck to the crease.

This is what drives me crazy. Before we got Booth every single one of us would say "We need a top 6 PF winger who drives the net hard!!" Gillis goes out and grabs Booth and now all of the sudden we don't that top 6 PF who drives the net.

Canucks fans will never be satisfied.

Canucker 01-06-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by arsmaster (Post 57219953)
We got killed in the Ballard deal?

We have Ballard they have Howden. Forgive me for preferring Ballard to Howden.

Booth a poor mans Samuelsson? I like Samuelsson as much as the next guy, but I can't recall Samuelsson driving to the net.

For the flack Booth gets on here, he's one of maybe two players on our roster than have size and consistently take the puck to the crease.

Gonna have to agree with you there...Booth's play was pretty lackluster, but he was also saddled with a lackluster/injured Kesler. Samuelsson was either very good or very bad with us...he was much more responsible defensively than Booth though. I'm willing to give Booth this season to prove himself before deciding whether or not to cut him loose...I think he's a better bet to rebound than an aging Samuelsson.

Pseudonymous 01-06-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by keslerburrows (Post 57220233)
This is what drives me crazy. Before we got Booth every single one of us would say "We need a top 6 PF winger who drives the net hard!!" Gillis goes out and grabs Booth and now all of the sudden we don't that top 6 PF who drives the net.

Canucks fans will never be satisfied.

Saying Samuelsson is a better player than somebody doesn't devalue them. Samuelsson is a great player. The reason detroit and vancouver wanted him back.

Wow i do not agree with the other people saying hes worse, seems like they really think hes much worse or something, talking about cutting him loose, i think samuelsson is the better player but booth is still real good. cutting him loose? no thanks

Barney Gumble 01-06-2013 09:56 PM

How long did the Sedins take before becoming decent NHL players? I'm pretty sure it took them more than 56 regular season & 5 playoff games in a Canuck uniform...

JanBulisPiggyBack 01-06-2013 09:57 PM

How soon we forget how bad Samuellson often was, he would loft so many soft shots at goalies logos when there were much much better plays to be made

There was a time when he was like 3rd or 4th in the league in shots on next, right after Crosby and Ovechkin

I always scape-goated Samuellson, he did play well at times and yes he stepped it up in the playoffs which is right now in hindsight his only redeeming quality I truely miss.

Booth isnt a comparable player to Sammy at all, lets give him another season shall we

Howden is coming back out way anyways, as long as we throw in Kesler, Burrows and Edler :laugh:

y2kcanucks 01-06-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by arsmaster (Post 57219953)
We got killed in the Ballard deal?

We have Ballard they have Howden. Forgive me for preferring Ballard to Howden.

Booth a poor mans Samuelsson? I like Samuelsson as much as the next guy, but I can't recall Samuelsson driving to the net.

For the flack Booth gets on here, he's one of maybe two players on our roster than have size and consistently take the puck to the crease.

Apparently we got killed in the Booth trade giving up Marco Sturm and Mikael Samuelsson...neither of whom had much of an impact last season and neither of whom are still with the Panthers. :help:

Pseudonymous 01-06-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney Gumble (Post 57220389)
How long did the Sedins take before becoming decent NHL players? I'm pretty sure it took them more than 56 regular season & 5 playoff games in a Canuck uniform...

:laugh: what

i believe booth has played in the nhl prior ;)


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