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jaytibo 01-07-2013 02:17 AM

Sven Baertschi or Evander Kane?
 
Who should have the best career in the NHL?

Peter Petan 01-07-2013 02:24 AM

If Calgary continues on their same path, I see baertschi succumbing to Iginla syndrome and being alone without a decent center for the majority of his career. The fact that I'm a Kane fan makes this poll almost laughable.

Jets 01-07-2013 02:27 AM

This poll is laughable. Its a 13th overall pick vs a 4th overall pick. Bartschi will be good, but his game will top out at least a step below Kanes.

roflstomper 01-07-2013 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jets (Post 57227185)
This poll is laughable. Its a 13th overall pick vs a 4th overall pick. Bartschi will be good, but his game will top out at least a step below Kanes.

I'm not understanding the line of thought here.

ohheyhemsky 01-07-2013 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jets (Post 57227185)
This poll is laughable. Its a 13th overall pick vs a 4th overall pick. Bartschi will be good, but his game will top out at least a step below Kanes.

So draft pedigree is what dictates skill?


LOL...

jaytibo 01-07-2013 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jets (Post 57227185)
This poll is laughable. Its a 13th overall pick vs a 4th overall pick. Bartschi will be good, but his game will top out at least a step below Kanes.

Bogosian third overall and Karlsson 15th

Walkingthroughforest 01-07-2013 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DandyEvandy9 (Post 57227145)
If Calgary continues on their same path, I see baertschi succumbing to Iginla syndrome and being alone without a decent center for the majority of his career. The fact that I'm a Kane fan makes this poll almost laughable.

For the record, if Sven's career has the same "syndrome" as Jarome Iginla, I'll be ecstatic. And it's also cool that you can see a teams future 10 years down the road.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jets (Post 57227185)
This poll is laughable. Its a 13th overall pick vs a 4th overall pick. Bartschi will be good, but his game will top out at least a step below Kanes.

That doesn't make any sense.



For the poll itself, Sven is a bit of a wildcard right now. He could top out at being a franchise winger, or he could just be a good top 6 player. Kane is established and definitely the safer bet. Sven has the higher upside, however.

Rolen 01-07-2013 06:37 AM

A proven NHL player versus a player that has yet to only play 5 games in the NHL? I think we all know who's going to win.

Horrible poll.

Izzy 01-07-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jets (Post 57227185)
This poll is laughable. Its a 13th overall pick vs a 4th overall pick. Bartschi will be good, but his game will top out at least a step below Kanes.

:help::help:

Habs 4 Life 01-07-2013 07:45 AM

Evander Kane

Kezia 01-07-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DandyEvandy9 (Post 57227145)
If Calgary continues on their same path, I see baertschi succumbing to Iginla syndrome and being alone without a decent center for the majority of his career. The fact that I'm a Kane fan makes this poll almost laughable.

Jankowski

Sidney the Kidney 01-07-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolen (Post 57229033)
A proven NHL player versus a player that has yet to only play 5 games in the NHL? I think we all know who's going to win.

Horrible poll.

On HF, the answer is usually the prospect who hasn't even played a dozen games in the NHL.

Vankiller Whale 01-07-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny FTW (Post 57237453)
Jankowski

He'll be playing on a line all by himself to help spread out their scoring a bit.

5RingsAndABeer 01-07-2013 01:07 PM

I honestly think it'll be Baertschi. Everything I've seen from him indicate he's gonna be a stud. EKane will be a very solid player in this league, but I think Baertschi has the top-end potential to be an all-star in this league.

bp spec 01-07-2013 01:32 PM

Kane

Billy Mays Here 01-07-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolen (Post 57229033)
A proven NHL player versus a player that has yet to only play 5 games in the NHL? I think we all know who's going to win.

Horrible poll.

This. I never understand the point of polls comparing legitimate NHLers to prospects.

InjuredChoker 01-07-2013 02:51 PM

This isn't fair to Bärtschi. Kane because he's already scored 30 at the age of 20.

tony d 01-07-2013 02:56 PM

Baertschi

Winnipeg Jets 01-07-2013 03:00 PM

Kane is the more proven commodity at the moment so that's what I'll base my vote on.

Le Magnifique 66 01-08-2013 08:35 AM

Kane will be the better player

Phion Keneuf 01-08-2013 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5RingsAndABeer (Post 57241701)
I honestly think it'll be Baertschi. Everything I've seen from him indicate he's gonna be a stud. EKane will be a very solid player in this league, but I think Baertschi has the top-end potential to be an all-star in this league.

Yup, I agree.

bsmith14 01-08-2013 11:22 AM

Baertschi is a dynamic forward with very high end skill and playmaking. He reminds me of a mix of Eberle and Ennis. Very quick, sick hands and good hockey IQ. Kane is a powerful mix of speed, grit and goal scoring ability. Both are great players. Ironically Kane reminds me of Iginla. I feel like Baertschi has a higher ceiling but not by much.

Also what does 13th overall vs 4th overall have to do with it?? LOL

33rd overall Ryan O'Reilly vs 15th overall Peter Holland anyone?

bsmith14 01-08-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WILDhockeyfan (Post 57243131)
This. I never understand the point of polls comparing legitimate NHLers to prospects.

Ok but by this logic your saying a General Manager wouldnt consider moving Matt Duchene for Nathan MacKinnon? Nick Leddy for Jonas Brodin? Derek Stepan for Mikhail Grigorenko?

If you are a GM and someone offers you Nail Yakupov for Logan Couture you should be able to compare who is better and who will be better.

If someone feels a prospect will be better than a current NHL'er then you absolutely should be able to compare them. NHL players get traded for prospects all the time.

BTW I am not saying any of those players compared will be better or worse than the other, I am just making a point that you should be able to compare NHL'ers to Prospects.

DuckJet 01-08-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jets (Post 57227185)
This poll is laughable. Its a 13th overall pick vs a 4th overall pick. Bartschi will be good, but his game will top out at least a step below Kanes.

Voted Kane, but your argument is laughable. My next few polls will be

Corey Perry vs Nikita Filatov
Claude Giroux vs Patrik Stefan
Max Pacioretty vs Zach Hamill

Romang67 01-08-2013 12:21 PM

Ok, the 4th overall vs 13th overall argument may not be great, but...

We're talking about a 4th overall who has progressed as well as anyone could have anticipated, against a 13th overall who hasn't played in the NHL yet.

Two seasons in, that's a pretty good point. What has the 13th overall proven which indicate that he will have a better career?

Yes, he may end up better, but why would people think that now?

Like saying that Baertschi looks like he's going to be an all-star and a stud. Kane had 30 goals as a 20 year old. He's not too far off all-star status right now.

Really don't see how this poll makes any sense right now.


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