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DaveG 01-08-2013 10:00 AM

Canes Keeper League Season 6 (finally)
 
link to season 5 thread: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=974763


MANAGERS LIST:
DaveG's Drunks (DaveG)
Tanabe #1 Overall (Summer Ruutu)
The Hockeyroos (Aussie Hurricane)
Bettman's HC Caracas (La Hurricanista)
Carolina BBQs (Caniac4ever)
Raleigh Llama (Geehaad)
The Dude (Faulkingdynamic)
Hobo's Spartans (Antonforthehart)
Smithfield Hayseeds (Vagrant)
Gotta Catch Em Staal (Gotta Catch Em Staal)
Team White Box (Shutdown Sutter)
Juggernaut of Doom (bleedgreen)


If you can't get in to the Yahoo league yet, for whatever reason, PM me and I'll send you the league link and the password.

Trades:
To Team White Box:
Sam Gagner

To Tanabe #1 Overall:
Dennis Wideman
4th round pick in prospect draft next year

To Team White Box:
Jason Spezza
Ilya Bryzgalov

To Gotta Catch 'Em Staal:
Joe Pavelski
Ryan Miller
2nd rounder in next years prospect draft

To: Bettman's HC Caracas:
Jarome Iginla

To: Team White Box:
Chris Kreider
2nd Round Pick in next year's draft

DaveG 01-08-2013 10:00 AM

ROSTERS:

Team White Box:
Ilya Bryzgalov
Devan Dubnyk
Mikael Backlund
Zach Bogosian
Alexandre Burrows
Matt Duchene
Travis Hamonic
Jarome Iginla
Jussi Jokinen
Nikolai Kulemin
Dmitry Kulikov
Gabriel Landeskog
Vincent Lecavalier
David Legwand
Jamie McBain
Matt Moulson
Joe Pavelski
Teddy Purcell
Jordan Staal
Drew Stafford
P.K. Subban
Anton Volchenkov
Jakub Voracek
Ian White
Ryan Whitney

Hobo's Spartans:
Cam Ward
Semyon Varlamov
Dwayne Roloson
Artem Anisimov
Rene Bourque
Danny Briere
Daniel Cleary
Cal Clutterbuck
Christian Ehrhoff
Michael Grabner
Ryan Johansen
Chad LaRose
Jordan Leopold
Clarke MacArthur
Andrej Meszaros
P.A. Parenteau
Alex Pietrangelo
Derek Roy
Brayden Schenn
Alexander Semin
Jarret Stoll
Alex Tanguay
Joe Thornton
Marc-Edouard Vlasic
Keith Yandle
Travis Zajac

DaveG's Drunks:
Jonathan Quick
Ryan Miller
Corey Crawford
Nicklas Backstrom (F)
Marc-Andre Bergeron
Alex Burmistrov
Ryane Clowe
Tobias Enstrom
Nathan Gerbe
Victor Hedman
Patric Hornqvist
Erik Johnson
Jack Johnson
Olli Jokinen
Evander Kane
Andrew Ladd
Bryan Little
Kyle Okposo
Alex Ovechkin
Joni Pitkanen
Mikael Samuelsson
Eric Staal
Brandon Sutter
Radim Vrbata

Carolina BBQs:
Nicklas Backstrom (G)
Martin Brodeur
Johan Hedberg
Brayden Holtby
Michael Neuvirth
David Clarkson
Jason Garrison
Curtis Glencross
Mikhail Grabovski
Dan Hamhuis
Martin Havlat
David Krejci
John-Michael Liles
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
David Perron
Tomas Plekanec
Jason Pominville
Mike Ribeiro
Brent Seabrook
Patrick Sharp
Wayne Simmonds
Jeff Skinner
Sheldon Souray
Derek Stepan
Ray Whitney

The Hockeyroos:
Tomas Vokoun
James Reimer
Jonas Gustavsson
Jean-Sebastien Giguere
Ray Emery
Martin Biron
Dan Boyle
Dustin Brown
Drew Doughty
Steve Downie
Brandon Dubinsky
Jordan Eberle
Alex Goligoski
Nathan Horton
Marcus Johansson
Andy McDonald
Shane O'Brien
T.J. Oshie
Stephane Robidas
Bobby Ryan
Michael Ryder
Tyler Seguin
Alex Steen
Ryan Suter
Stephen Weiss
Justin Williams

Gotta Catch Em Staal:
Antti Niemi
Jonas Hiller
Evgeni Nabokov
Daniel Alfredsson
Jason Arnott
Kyle Brodziak
Michael Cammalleri
Brian Campbell
Zdeno Chara
Tim Connolly
Martin Erat
Johan Franzen
Marian Gaborik
Sam Gagner
Jiri Hudler
Duncan Keith
Anze Kopitar
Andrei Markov
James Neal
Matt Niskanen
Sami Salo
Craig Smith
Jason Spezza
Paul Stastny
Chris Stewart
Kimmo Timonen
Kyle Wellwood

Smithfield Hayseeds:
Jaroslav Halak
Kari Lehtonen
Jose Theodore
Brent Burns
Dustin Byfuglien
Tyler Ennis
Cam Fowler
Sergei Gonchar
Taylor Hall
Scott Hartnell
Milan Hejduk
Marian Hossa
Milan Lucic
Brad Marchand
Dustin Penner
Rich Peverley
Dion Phaneuf
Matt Read
Tuomo Ruutu
Mark Streit
John Tavares
R.J. Umberger
Blake Wheeler
Dennis Wideman
Henrik Zetterberg

Raleigh Llama:
Tim Thomas
Cory Schneider
Tukka Rask
Jhonas Enroth
Sergei Bobrovsky
The Anton
Patrik Berglund
David Booth
Johnny Boychuk
Jeff Carter
Erik Cole
Joe Corvo
Valtteri Filppula
Tomas Fleischmann
Mike Green
Jay Harrison
Ales Hemsky
Chris Kelly
Nicklas Lidstrom
Evgeni Malkin
Patrick Marleau
Tyler Myers
Corey Perry
Chris Pronger
Kevin Shattenkirk
Jonathan Toews
James van Riemsdyk

Juggernaut:
Henrik Lundqvist
Nikolai Khabibulin
Jimmy Howard
Francois Beauchemin
Pierre-Marc Bouchard
Matt Carle
Matt Cullen
Loui Eriksson
Ryan Getzlaf
Jaromir Jagr
Mikko Koivu
Zenon Konopka
Ilya Kovalchuk
Joffrey Lupul
Matt Martin
Paul Martin
Douglas Murray
Ryan O'Reilly
Mike Richards
Daniel Sedin
Henrik Sedin
Ladislav Smid
Mark Stuart
Lubomir Visnovsky
Marek Zidlicky

The Dude:
Pekka Rinne
Steve Mason
Chris Mason
Mathieu Garon
Craig Anderson
David Backes
Patrice Bergeron
Kevin Bieksa
Troy Brouwer
John Carlson
Pavel Datsyuk
Shane Doan
Simon Gagne
Josh Gorges
Niklas Kronwall
Chris Kunitz
Brooks Laich
Milan Michalek
Brenden Morrow
Kyle Quincey
Alexander Radulov
Brad Richards
Teemu Selanne
Ryan Smyth
Steven Stamkos
Shea Weber

Tanabe #1 Overall:
Carey Price
Roberto Luongo
Josh Harding
Brian Elliott
Peter Budaj
Logan Couture
Sidney Crosby
David Desharnais
Pascal Dupuis
Alexander Edler
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Patrik Elias
Mike Fisher
Dan Girardi
Martin Hanzal
Chris Higgins
Patrick Kane
Kris Letang
Ryan Malone
Willie Mitchell
Rick Nash
Zach Parise
Viktor Stalberg
Kris Versteeg
James Wisniewski

Bettman's HC Caracas:
Marc-Andre Fleury
Miikka Kiprusoff
Ondrej Pavelec
Mike Smith
Bryan Allen
Jamie Benn
Ryan Callahan
Michael Del Zotto
Paul Gaustad
Mark Giordano
Claude Giroux
Dany Heatley
Adam Henrique
Erik Karlsson
Ryan Kesler
Phil Kessel
Steve Ott
Max Pacioretty
Luke Schenn
Dennis Seidenberg
Devin Setoguchi
Zack Smith
Martin St. Louis
Brad Stuart
Thomas Vanek

DaveG 01-08-2013 10:01 AM

PROSPECT POOLS:

Prospects Lists

Raleigh Llama:
Alexei Cherepanov
Jakub Kindl
Cory Schneider
Marc-Andre Gragnani
Johnas Enroth
Luca Caputi
Dustin Tokarski
Alexander Salak
Evgeny Grachev
Jack Campbell
Kirill Kabanov
Sergei Bobrovsky - 54GP
Brendan Smith
Anders Lindback
Alex Stalock
Ryan Murphy
Joel Armia
Nathan Beaulieu
Ty Rattie
Calle Jarnkrok
Kevin Poulin

Juggernaut of Doom:
Jeff Frazee
Matt Corrente
Mattias Tedenby - 58GP
Janne Pesonen
Gustav Nyquist
Jorden Schroeder
Louis Leblanc
Landon Ferraro
Andrej Nestrasil
Evgeny Kuznetsov
Eric Gustafson
Brandon Kozun
Bobby Butler
Quinton Howden
Jan Mursak
Mark Scheifele
Tomas Jurco
Matt Puempel
Cam Atkinson
Adam Almquist

Tanabe #1 Overall:
Angelo Esposito
Ivan Vishnevski
Kyle Beach
Ilya Zubov
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
John Moore
Jordan Caron
Nick Leddy
Simon Despres
Stefan Elliott
Mikael Granlund
Nick Bjugstad
Mark Visentin
Tyler Toffoli
Christian Thomas
Brayden Schenn
David Rundblad
Dmitri Orlov
Martin Marincin
Tyler Biggs
Joe Morrow

Hobo's Spartans:
Francois Bouchard
Slava Trukhno
Joe Colborne
Daultan Levellie
Chris Terry
Mike Murphy
Nazem Kadri
Peter Holland
Zach Budish
Mattias Lindstrom
Dylan Olsen
Ryan Johansen
Brandon Gormley
Teemu Pulkkinen
Mark Pysyk
Mark Alt
Brock Nelson
Dougie Hamilton
Rickard Rakell
Brett Ritchie
Frederik Andersen
Jonas Brodin

The Dude:
Semen Varlamov - 59GP
Chet Pickard
Ryan McDonagh
Jeff Petry
Jeremy Morin
Carter Ashton
Andrei Loktionov
Ian Cole
Charles-Oliver Rousell
Brett Connolly
Jaden Schwartz
Derek Forbort
Jon Merrill
Eric Haula
Richard Bachman
Sven Baertschi
Vladislav Namestnikov
Nikita Kucherov
Taylor Beck
Connor Murphy

DaveG’s Drunks:
Riku Heleinus
Kyle Lawson
Alexander Vasyunov
Zach Boychuk - 56GP
Igor Makarov
Jakub Markstrom
Mitch Wahl
Jacob Josefson
Jonathan Blum
Carl Klingberg
Jacob Silfverberg
Alex Chiasson
Austin Watson
Justin Faulk
Calvin Pickard
Mike Lee
Sean Couturier
Oscar Klefbom
Victor Rask
Shane Prince
Adam Clendening

Bettman's HC Caracas:
Jonathan Bernier
Thomas McCollum
Aaron Palushaj
Akim Aliu
Eric Tangradi
Ryan Ellis
Chris Kreider
Kyle Palmeiri
Toni Rajala
Luke Adam
Vladimir Tarasenko
Joey Hishon
Greg McKegg
Charlie Coyle
Jake Allen
Garrett Wilson
Rocco Grimaldi
Scott Mayfield
Dmitrij Jaskin
David Savard

The Hockeyroos:
Bobby Sanguinetti
Thomas Hickey
Logan McMillan
Jared Staal
Maxim Mayorov
Ben Bishop
Ryan Stoa
Zack Kassian
Philippe Paradis
Drew Shore
Joonas Nattinen
Brandon Pirri
Erik Gudbranson
Riley Sheahan
Ludvig Rensfeldt
Ryan Spooner
John McFarland
Jonathan Huberdeau
Jamie Oleksiak
John Gibson
Niklas Jensen
Matt Nieto
Mika Zibanejad

Gotta Catch Em Staal:
Marek Schwarz
Petr Kalus
Alex Bourret
Carl Soderberg
Bobby Hughes
Cody Hodgson
Greg Niesmiz
Jake Gardiner
Brett Maclean
Calvin de Hann
Robin Lehner
Richard Panik
Mikko Koskinen
Alex Hutchings
Nino Niederreiter
Emerson Etem
Kyle Wilson
Justin Shugg
Kent Simpson
Adam Larsson
Stefan Noesen
Alexander Khokhlachev
Xavier Ouellet
Christopher Gibson

Smithfield Hayseeds:
Drayson Bowman
Nikita Filatov
Zac Dalpe
Corey Trivino
Colton Teubert
Jared Cowen
Daniel Larsson
Tomas Tatar
Linus Omark
Mats Zuccarello Aasen
Jared Knight
Petr Straka
Craig Cunningham
Ryan Strome
JT Miller
Magnus Hellberg
Matt Read
Andy Miele

Carolina BBQs:
Leland Irving
Zach Hamill
Brett Sterling
Tomas Greiss
Steve Wagner
Al Montoya
Alexander Avtsyn
Beau Bennett
Jon Matsumoto
Braden Holtby
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Mark McNeill
Zack Phillips
Phillip Danault
Stephane Da Costa

Team White Box:
Marek Zagrapan
Anton Gustafson
Phil McCrae
David Toews
Patrice Cormier
Scott Glennie
Cody Eakin
Tim Erixon
Ben Hanowski
Matthieu Perreault - 56GP
Dustin Jeffrey
Kevin Sundher
Dylan McIlrath
Jared Tinordi
Gabriel Landeskog
Duncan Siemens
Brandon Saad
Gregory Hofmann
Shane McColgan

yet to be edited.

DaveG 01-08-2013 10:04 AM

PROSPECT DRAFT:

round 1:
Team White Box - Nail Yakupov
Hobo's Spartans- Alex Galchenyuk
DaveG's Drunks - Mikhail Grigorenko
Carolina BBQs - Filip Forsberg
The Hockeyroos - Ryan Murray
Gotta Catch Em Staal -Morgan Rielly
Smithfield Hayseeds - Jacob Trouba
Raleigh Llama - Teuvo Teravainen
Juggernaut - Tomas Hertl
The Dude - Justin Schultz
Tanabe #1 Overall - Andrei Vasilevski
Bettman's HC Caracas - Roman Cervenka

Round 2:

Team White Box - Sebastien Collberg
Hobo's Spartans - Radek Faksa
DaveG's Drunks - Malcolm Subban
Carolina BBQs - Scott Laughton
The Hockeyroos - Zemgus Girgensons
Gotta Catch Em Staal - Matthew Dumba
Smithfield Hayseeds - Jason Zucker
Raleigh Llama - Eddie Lack
Juggernaut - Brendan Gaunce
The Dude - Derrick Pouliot
Tanabe #1 Overall - Damien Brunner
Bettman's HC Caracas - Hampus Lindholm

Round 3:
Team White Box - Tanner Pearson
Hobo's Spartans - Martin Frk
DaveG's Drunks - Mark Jankowski
Carolina BBQs - Tom Wilson
The Hockeyroos - Henrik Samuelsson
Gotta Catch Em Staal - Pontus Aberg
Smithfield Hayseeds - John Gaudreau
Raleigh Llama - Griffin Reinhart
Juggernaut - Cody Ceci
The Dude - Theodor Blueger
Tanabe #1 Overall - Marcus Foligno
Bettman's HC Caracas - William Karlsson

Round 4:
Team White Box - Phil di Giuseppi
Hobo's Spartans - Slater Koekkoek
DaveG's Drunks - Frank Corrado
Carolina BBQs - Stefan Matteau
The Hockeyroos - Olli Maatta
Gotta Catch Em Staal - Oscar Dansk
Smithfield Hayseeds - Cory Conacher
Raleigh Llama - Devante Smith-Pelly
Juggernaut - Jeremy Welsh
The Dude - Tanner Richard
Tanabe #1 Overall - Michael Sgarbossa
Bettman's HC Caracas - Johan Larsson


round 5:
Team White Box - Jake McCabe
Hobo's Spartans - Erik Karlsson
DaveG's Drunks - Mikael Vikstrand
Carolina BBQs - Brock McGinn
The Hockeyroos - Daniel Altshuller
Gotta Catch Em Staal - Ludvig Bystrom
Smithfield Hayseeds - Jonathan Audy-Marchessault
Raleigh Llama - Matt Hackett
Juggernaut - Petr mrazek
The Dude - Alex Guptill
Tanabe #1 Overall - Brendan Gallagher
Bettman's HC Caracas - Tyson Barrie

geehaad 01-08-2013 10:32 AM

I can help with the prospect pools tonight, if you want that help. Hit me up on GChat if so...

Gotta Catch Em Staal 01-08-2013 10:44 AM

Changed my team name to match my username to avoid future confusion.

DaveG 01-08-2013 11:06 AM

So here's the ultimate question for you guys regarding the prospects.

We're changing things up a bit to give people more longevity with their prospects. Basically a 24 or 3 rule. 24 years of age, or 3 full NHL seasons (200 games for skaters/100 games for goalies) whichever comes first. Basically the thought process here is that it wasn't fair for managers to have to protect guys like Skinner, Stamkos, etc. after their first pro season. This is implemented from here on. Now the question is how to do it to affect formerly drafted players best.

This will only apply to players drafted in the prospects draft. If you don't spend a draft pick on them in the prospects draft, their Keeper/FA status starts the next season.

We can take three approaches:
1 - from here on out, period. Everyone else goes under the old rules.
2 - start the clock on the eligibility as of last season. So say Justin Faulk or Adam Larsson will have burned a season off on that number. So basically anyone that hasn't had to be protected as a keeper yet won't have to this season either.
3 - do this going all the way back. So guys like Tavares still have to be protected, but guys like Skinner, Hall, Brayden Schenn, etc. still have some time left before having to be protected.

opening this one up for debate.

faulkingdynamic 01-08-2013 11:28 AM

Everyone not on the current prospect roster, goes under the old rules. Current players still eligible for the prospect pool goes under the new rules.

Oops, did i just add another option? or was this the intent of Option1

DaveG 01-08-2013 11:31 AM

actually that's more in line with option 2, just with a roster caveat in place as well. I would have no problem with that idea either.

personally I'm all for option #2, but I also have a rather biased reason for being so... make that a few of them (Markstrom, Blum, Faulk, Couturier)

faulkingdynamic 01-08-2013 11:47 AM

I checked out for a bit, did we make a final decision on categories and # of keepers?

Chicago Made Punk 01-08-2013 11:50 AM

When can I make my prospect pick?

DaveG 01-08-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faulkingdynamic (Post 57288515)
I checked out for a bit, did we make a final decision on categories and # of keepers?

categories were going points wise:
goal: 1
assist: 1
gwg: 1
pppts: .25
shpts: .25
shot: .1
fowin: .05

goalies:
win: 3
OT/SO loss: 1
saves: .1
GA: -.75
SO: 2

maybe a bit too much emphasis on saves still, that's also up for debate. I like the look of those stats for skaters though.

keepers: 8. Can only keep 1 goalie, so it's either 7 skaters 1 goalie or 8 skaters. Kindof *****slaps me having both Quick and Miller, but it'll help balance the league a bit more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shutdown Sutter (Post 57288687)
When can I make my prospect pick?

Go ahead

faulkingdynamic 01-08-2013 12:09 PM

Is that point total scheme already plugged into yahoo so we can see where guys rank in the new system? If not could we adjust it in yahoo before we name the keepers? Thanks in advance for doing all this work for the rest of us

Sad King Jimmy 01-08-2013 12:10 PM

We're dropping blocked shot and hits then?

And I like option #2 for prospects.

DaveG 01-08-2013 12:14 PM

Actually looks like Yahoo scrapped the SO/OT L idea, that sucks. But yeah, those are plugged in now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntonfortheHart (Post 57289795)
We're dropping blocked shot and hits then?

And I like option #2 for prospects.

Yep, while great ideas in theory the judging of those stats league-wide is wildly inconsistent. Blocks aren't as bad but it seems like you're credited for a hit in MSG just for looking at someone funny. Hell there was that playoff game between us and the Bruins back in 99 that had something like 120 recorded hits, no joke. Just not a good category to make useful after our experimentation with it.

impeach estaalo 01-08-2013 02:12 PM

I like #2 as well

Aussie Hurricane 01-08-2013 02:28 PM

No 2 sounds fair to me.

La Huracanista 01-08-2013 02:36 PM

"There was a problem

a team cannot join this league; the teams have been finalized by the commisioner." Error 649

DaveG 01-08-2013 02:42 PM

fixed the problem, not sure what happened there, but it shouldn't come up again. I know I didn't lock it myself.

La Huracanista 01-08-2013 02:47 PM

I just want to say that this league is going to be awesome. The points system is amazing.

edit: whoops, I see we decided on keepers

La Huracanista 01-08-2013 02:49 PM

Thanks Dave, I'm in. Also, I'm noticing that good goalies have similar fantasy points to good skaters. So I think we nerfed goalies sufficiently.

La Huracanista 01-08-2013 02:56 PM

Also: per last year's numbers, centers are *dominant*. As in 500+ faceoffs adds at least 25 fantasy points to a center's value.

I know a value of .05 is ridiculously small, but it really adds up due to the sheer amount of faceoffs. It makes centers slightly overpowered. Not an emergency, but it does make Olli Jokinen and Stephen Weiss very legit fantasy picks in our league. :)

Gotta Catch Em Staal 01-08-2013 02:59 PM

Yeah, that definitely needs to be tweaked. Maybe .01 instead?

La Huracanista 01-08-2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faulkingdynamic (Post 57289685)
Is that point total scheme already plugged into yahoo so we can see where guys rank in the new system? If not could we adjust it in yahoo before we name the keepers? Thanks in advance for doing all this work for the rest of us

Yes, just look in the "players" tab and rank by last season's numbers.

DaveG 01-08-2013 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by La Huracanista (Post 57297889)
I just want to say that this league is going to be awesome. The points system is amazing.

also, how many keepers do we get? or is this still being debated?

8, max of 1 goalie. You could keep 8 forwards and no D or no goalies. Just can't keep more then one goalie.

Personally I'll be keeping Quick as mine (SHOCK!)



positions are now:
3 C
2 RW
2 LW
1 W
1 F
1 Util
5 D
2 G
2 bench

IR is still 5, cause **** injuries.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gotta Catch Em Staal (Post 57298621)
Yeah, that definitely needs to be tweaked. Maybe .01 instead?

.025 maybe? I think .01 would take a bit too much away from the value of a guy like Bergeron or Sutter.


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