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Sundinisagod 01-14-2013 11:37 AM

Draft day: Couturier to MTL for Seth Jones
 
Let's say on draft day 2013 MTL is holding the 3rd overall spot, and they are coveting a big, 2-way center to compliment Galchenyuk. Mackinnon and Barkov go 1-2, and MTL feels there is no room for both Jones and Subban on their d. They'd like the 2-way presence Couturier brings, amongst other intangibles. I know that the value is there, but does either side make this trade?

candyman82 01-14-2013 11:39 AM

I wouldn't trade the chance to get Seth Jones for Couturier.

NitHeel 01-14-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundinisagod (Post 57576743)
Let's say on draft day 2013 MTL is holding the 3rd overall spot, and they are coveting a big, 2-way center to compliment Galchenyuk. Mackinnon and Barkov go 1-2, and MTL feels there is no room for both Jones and Subban on their d. They'd like the 2-way presence Couturier brings, amongst other intangibles. I know that the value is there, but does either side make this trade?

Flyers certainly don't.

avsfan09 01-14-2013 11:41 AM

I think Jones is worth quite a bit more than Couturier. Jones will be a number 1 D-man.

avsfan09 01-14-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NitHeel (Post 57576929)
Flyers certainly don't.

I highly doubt they wouldn't.

Domino11 01-14-2013 11:43 AM

Ill take jones 10 time out of 10 if u ask me to choose !! He will be a stud ...

Jtown 01-14-2013 11:44 AM

All Flyers Fans love Couturier. But giving him up for a chance at Jones? That might be something to consider.

I will say this, If couturier gets more PP time and increased point production in his second year while still playing great D then his trade value will increase greatly. Being able to show that he can produce in the NHL as a two way centerman that could be a teams first line center is more valuable than a Highly regarded D man who has first pairing potential.

Jag68Sid87 01-14-2013 11:46 AM

Jones won't be there at No. 3.

Prairie Habs 01-14-2013 11:50 AM

Tinordi - Jones
Gorges - Subban
Beauieau - Emelin
Ellis

Price

That tells me that we should just keep Jones if we can get him.

tuckrr 01-14-2013 11:54 AM

No freaking way for me. I think flyers management sees couturier as something "special"

It reminds me of 2 years after we drafted giroux, all the coaches keep saying "we might have the real deal here"

I'm confident (especially after watching the phantoms this year) that couturier will put up 30-40 points in the condensed schedule, and the following year he will flirt with 80. Watch out for cooter, he's more than a 3C or 2C he's gonna be special.

Halifaxhab* 01-14-2013 11:58 AM

wow. alot of what ifs there.

but Jones or Couturier.....I'd go with Jones. Couturier getting more icetime, and following a regular progression...he'll be a solid #2 C and could round out into C who can slot in as a #1 in a pinch.

I know MTL is deep at D prospects, but a big, physical puck mover who can play 30 mins a game. This kid has the potential to play a similar style to Pronger. We all know how a player like that can change a team's fortunes.


All that said, I don't see the Habs getting a lotto pick this season...maybe top 10 but I don't think so.

orange is better 01-14-2013 12:02 PM

I love Couts, but if this is an option, and Laughton makes the team out if camp this year and plays well, and Schenn steps up this season, I would do couturier for jones.

domdo345 01-14-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jag68Sid87 (Post 57577245)
Jones won't be there at No. 3.

this. Barkov and Drouin will be available at #3 and I doubt the habs trade one of them for Couturier...

NEWFowler 01-14-2013 12:19 PM

Are Flyers fans really saying they wouldn't do this? :amazed: Yikes.

CJV123 01-14-2013 12:23 PM

MTL is going to jettison Kaberle and Markov- why do you think they would go C?

El Dandy* 01-14-2013 12:25 PM

I love Sean, but you simply don't pass on an opportunity at Seth Jones.

tuckrr 01-14-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainbow Express (Post 57579159)
I love Sean, but you simply don't pass on an opportunity at Seth Jones.

I love seth jones, but I'm not convinced he'll be a #1
He certainly has the potential, but its hardly a sure thing.

Lebowski 01-14-2013 12:33 PM

Wouldn't even consider trading Jones for Couturier.

Sojourn 01-14-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuckrr (Post 57577609)
No freaking way for me. I think flyers management sees couturier as something "special"

It reminds me of 2 years after we drafted giroux, all the coaches keep saying "we might have the real deal here"

I'm confident (especially after watching the phantoms this year) that couturier will put up 30-40 points in the condensed schedule, and the following year he will flirt with 80. Watch out for cooter, he's more than a 3C or 2C he's gonna be special.

With all due respect to Flyers management, this is Seth Jones we're talking about... everyone sees him as something "special".

CanadianFlyersFan18 01-14-2013 12:37 PM

Seth Jones has all the tools, no tool box. Lacks hockey IQ IMO. Great physical gifts, reminds me of Chris Pronger, minus the intelligence of the game which will hold him back from being a #1. For me Drouin will be the best player of that draft, hockey sense combined with pure skill is always a deadly combination, mini Claude Giroux. Couts thinks the game like a 40 year old vet, with more ice-time and better quality line-mates the rest of the NHL will see what Flyer fans are oozing about.

S3rkie 01-14-2013 12:38 PM

lol isn't seth jones exactly what philly needs? Why are some flyer fans shrugging this off so quickly? Obviously you dont wanna trade your young guns, but you gotta give to get, and this would make you guys a better team for a long time.

capitalsrock 01-14-2013 12:39 PM

Seth Jones will easily be picked 1st or 2nd and is worth more than Couturier.

Jtown 01-14-2013 12:39 PM

I think Jones's lack of hockey sense stems from always being the best player on the teams he plays on.

Whatever team he plays for in the NHL i hope he plays second fiddle to a better more established NHL veteran who he can learn from.

ricky0034 01-14-2013 12:45 PM

why would anyone trade Seth Jones for Couturier?

Jones has realistic franchise player level potential and would go first overall most years

Psuhockey 01-14-2013 12:48 PM

I like Seth Jones, but I wouldn't trade Couturier for him. Couturier has played a year in the NHL and has shown to be an effective shutdown center plus 13 goals in his rookie year as a fourth liner is nothing to sneeze at. Seth Jones could be another Pronger or Doughty or he could be another Bouwmeester or Erik Johnson. Defensemen are so hard to judge that you might get the best one in round two as opposed the 2nd overall pick.


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