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HankTheTankYoLo 01-14-2013 02:37 PM

Matt Greene to NYR
 
What does Rangers have to give?

im thinking these D-pairs:

McD - Girardi
Staal - Stralman
MDZ - Greene

Monument 01-14-2013 02:42 PM

Not gonna end well... Gonna be a lot more than a 3rd pairing guy is worth.

I say this as a diehard Ranger fan and someone who follows the Kings almost as much, Greene is NOT a 3rd pairing guy and can log a TON of Nasty, Hard-Hitting minutes and is one of the better defensive defensemen in the league. Be prepared to give up a bit for him.

Kershaw 01-14-2013 02:44 PM

Matt Greene is a very good 3rd pairing defenseman, maybe the best one on the 3rd pair. That being said, I wouldn't give too much value for a 3rd pairing guy.

Ollie Weeks 01-14-2013 02:54 PM

Rangers and LA have talent-laden rosters tasked with identical goals. You might be better served trying to pull somebody off a team with less settled pieces, and more willing to ship bodies in and out.

You're right to want him, though.

KingCanadain1976 01-14-2013 03:13 PM

The kings right now are looking for a vetern defenseman due to a injury to mitchell. I really don't see him being traded. He wears a A on his sweater and is very well liked by both his fellow players and management. When mitchell comes back and if we added someone to replace him ( rumours on leopold coming in) Greene would cost a frist and miller ( i know to much but you asked ) even then i dont see it imo suderi gets traded frist ( hes a free agent in the off season)

Punxrocknyc19* 01-14-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976 (Post 57589009)
The kings right now are looking for a vetern defenseman due to a injury to mitchell. I really don't see him being traded. He wears a A on his sweater and is very well liked by both his fellow players and management. When mitchell comes back and if we added someone to replace him ( rumours on leopold coming in) Greene would cost a frist and miller ( i know to much but you asked ) even then i dont see it imo suderi gets traded frist ( hes a free agent in the off season)

i wouldnt mind Scuderi on the NYR. he won a cup whenever he went to his new team...


id do Scuderi to NYR for St.Croix and 3rd in 2013 and Kings would get a 4th in 2014 (if he resigns with NYR) Scuderi would fit with NYR. blocks shots and has good leadership..

Live in the Now 01-14-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Punxrocknyc19 (Post 57590765)
i wouldnt mind Scuderi on the NYR. he won a cup whenever he went to his new team...


id do Scuderi to NYR for St.Croix and 3rd in 2013 and Kings would get a 4th in 2014 (if he resigns with NYR) Scuderi would fit with NYR. blocks shots and has good leadership..

You would, we wouldn't. Scuderi is a necessary piece in trying for a repeat.

Made Dan 01-14-2013 03:50 PM

I'd love Greene. Price would be too much. No reason for LA to move him and they're obviously in win-now made as well. Bad trading partners.

SingnBluesOnBroadway 01-14-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Punxrocknyc19 (Post 57590765)
i wouldnt mind Scuderi on the NYR. he won a cup whenever he went to his new team...


id do Scuderi to NYR for St.Croix and 3rd in 2013 and Kings would get a 4th in 2014 (if he resigns with NYR) Scuderi would fit with NYR. blocks shots and has good leadership..

The Rangers are not in a position to deal prospects and picks for what would likely be a 4, 5 or 6 defenseman.

KingCanadain1976 01-14-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Punxrocknyc19 (Post 57590765)
i wouldnt mind Scuderi on the NYR. he won a cup whenever he went to his new team...


id do Scuderi to NYR for St.Croix and 3rd in 2013 and Kings would get a 4th in 2014 (if he resigns with NYR) Scuderi would fit with NYR. blocks shots and has good leadership..

Alot of teams would like suderi if he became available and i would think we would easily get a player and a high pick. There would also be conditions on trading him frist off the kings aquireing a defenseman in the next little bit to cover the injury of mitchell. Then the trade wouldnt occur untill mitchell is proven healthy. Thinking here of miller and 2nd in 13 or Hrivik and a frist in 14 He won't be traded cheap. No offense to St Croix the king have there centers for the next decade or so in kopitar richards and carter waiting to play center. The kings need wingers ready for play in the 13 14 season.

KingCanadain1976 01-14-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Live in the Now (Post 57590913)
You would, we wouldn't. Scuderi is a necessary piece in trying for a repeat.

As i stated above this would only happen if the kings aquire another vetern defenseman in the near future to cover mitchells injury. When he comes back we ll have a extra defenseman thus making suderi available ( providing the defenseman aquired can take over for him )

KingCanadain1976 01-14-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SingnBluesOnBroadway (Post 57591181)
The Rangers are not in a position to deal prospects and picks for what would likely be a 4, 5 or 6 defenseman.

From a outsider point of view i can totally see the rangers doing that if they feel its the final piece to the puzzle. There in a win now not later situation.

SingnBluesOnBroadway 01-14-2013 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976 (Post 57591873)
From a outsider point of view i can totally see the rangers doing that if they feel its the final piece to the puzzle. There in a win now not later situation.

They made their "final piece to the puzzle"move when they got Nash.

KingCanadain1976 01-14-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SingnBluesOnBroadway (Post 57592099)
They made their "final piece to the puzzle"move when they got Nash.

well i think defense wins championships but that is my opinion and very debatable.

MillarWithASave 01-14-2013 04:10 PM

Can someone explain how a player can be the "best bottom pairing defenseman" wouldn't that make him a top 4 defenseman?

Halpysback* 01-14-2013 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punxrocknyc19 (Post 57590765)
i wouldnt mind Scuderi on the NYR. he won a cup whenever he went to his new team...


id do Scuderi to NYR for St.Croix and 3rd in 2013 and Kings would get a 4th in 2014 (if he resigns with NYR) Scuderi would fit with NYR. blocks shots and has good leadership..

Scuderi at this point is worth 1st+ good prospect. Try again.

drums4dmf 01-14-2013 04:11 PM

Greene is just as valuable on the ice as he is in the locker room. With Mitchell hurt and Scuderi an UFA after this season, someone would have to really overpay Lombardi to pry Matty out of LA.

SingnBluesOnBroadway 01-14-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976 (Post 57592249)
well i think defense wins championships but that is my opinion and very debatable.

I'm very comfortable with the Rangers defense.

KingKopitar11* 01-14-2013 04:19 PM

actually we dont need D, we can have one of our youngsters taking Mitchells spot, so relax. We want wingers.(overpayment)

Trxjw 01-14-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976 (Post 57592249)
well i think defense wins championships but that is my opinion and very debatable.

Were you not around for the whole "6 goalies strategy" last season? Defense isn't really our biggest concern.

CNS 01-14-2013 04:20 PM

With Willie Mitchell injured for 7 weeksish, no ****ing way does Greene go anywhere. He's one of the most loved Kings because he's funny, a leader on the team, plays balls to the wall every shift, sacrifices anything for the team, and fits the Kings style perfectly.

KingCanadain1976 01-14-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KingKopitar11 (Post 57592831)
actually we dont need D, we can have one of our youngsters taking Mitchells spot, so relax. We want wingers.(overpayment)

I would agree with you but according to 4th period ek and matt berry we are in search of a vetern defenseman to fill in.

KingCanadain1976 01-14-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Trxjw (Post 57592869)
Were you not around for the whole "6 goalies strategy" last season? Defense isn't really our biggest concern.

I m not a ranger fan so i wouldnt know this 6 goalie strategy you talk of but at least two of your fellow fans disagree on ur need for defense or the offers wouldnt have been made. :nod:

Kershaw 01-14-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MillarWithASave (Post 57592365)
Can someone explain how a player can be the "best bottom pairing defenseman" wouldn't that make him a top 4 defenseman?

No because he hasn't played top 4 minutes in his pro career.

KingKopitar11* 01-14-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976 (Post 57593153)
I would agree with you but according to 4th period ek and matt berry we are in search of a vetern defenseman to fill in.

Take them with a grain salt.


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