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Nicko999 01-14-2013 08:28 PM

Hall-Yakupov vs Seguin-Galchenyuk
 
I tried to make two pairs with high draft pick players we like to compare.

1. Taylor vs 2. Tyler in 2010
1. Yakupov vs 2. Gally in 2012 (teamates in Sarnia)

So Which pair would you rather have on your team?

Taylor Hall and Nail Yakupov
or...
Tyler Seguin and Alex Galchenyuk

AKL 01-14-2013 08:30 PM

I'll take Seguin and Galchenyuk without the slightest doubt or hesitation. I'm in the boat that would have taken Seguin over Hall in 2011, and I think Galchenyuk will be a better player than Yakupov, so it's easy for me.

WolfgangAmadeusEller* 01-14-2013 08:34 PM

Galchenyuk-Seguin

Vdhawan89 01-14-2013 08:46 PM

Hall=Seguim
Yak>Gal

Oilers duo.

19NYSports91 01-14-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vdhawan89 (Post 57605253)
Hall=Seguim
Yak>Gal

Oilers duo.

Not really....

topchowda 01-14-2013 08:52 PM

Only reason id consider seguin and galyenchuk is because they are centers, but it seems seguin is a becoming a winger and Galy was playing the wing on Sarnia for a bit.

So Yakupov and Hall

Clipitar 01-14-2013 08:58 PM

Talent-wise, it's very similar. One duo has the most powerful wheels, the other has better ability to use other linemates and control the play with stick-handling.

One has quite a size advantage over the other though, so I'll go with the 6'1+ 200lbs+ duo.

4EDM14OIL93 01-14-2013 09:08 PM

What a joke :laugh: what has Seguin done to prove he is better than Hall, other than lack freak injuries? Seguin has a worse PPG, less goals, less points (in 29 more games), etc.

And #1 vs #3... Half a year after the draft... #1 for sure.

Mr Forever 01-14-2013 09:10 PM

Eh, it's more advantageous for a team to have a great 1-2 punch down the middle than it is two have two dynamic, yet similar wingers, so I'd go with Seguin and Gally.

Vdhawan89 01-14-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19NYSports91 (Post 57605453)
Not really....

Yeah really. Up until his injury, Hall was matching Seguin point for point. And Hall's pro rated stats would of been 36g-35a-71 pts. Im not saying he'd have hit these numbers, because there are many hot and cold streaks that pro-rated stats dont account for, but to say Hall would of had around the same amount of points as Seguin towards season end is not absurd at all. Even if Seguin, is a little better at scoring (which I dont believe he is), Hall makes up with his intangibles. His leadership is off the charts, and the Oilers record reflects that they play better with him in the lockeroom.

19NYSports91 01-14-2013 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vdhawan89 (Post 57606785)
Yeah really. Up until his injury, Hall was matching Seguin point for point. And Hall's pro rated stats would of been 36g-35a-71 pts. Im not saying he'd have hit these numbers, because there are many hot and cold streaks that pro-rated stats dont account for, but to say Hall would of had around the same amount of points as Seguin towards season end is not absurd at all. Even if Seguin, is a little better at scoring (which I dont believe he is), Hall makes up with his intangibles. His leadership is off the charts, and the Oilers record reflects that they play better with him in the lockeroom.

Does Hall play with RNH and Eberle? Thats what I thought. I saw both players play a good amount and Seguin is the better player.

Johnny Bravo 01-14-2013 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19NYSports91 (Post 57607013)
Does Hall play with RNH and Eberle? Thats what I thought. I saw both players play a good amount and Seguin is the better player.

Hall barely played with RNH last season. You're not an Oilers fans, so stop acting like you know everything about them.

Nicko999 01-14-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo (Post 57607067)
Hall barely played with RNH last season. You're not an Oilers fans, so stop acting like you know everything about them.

Every time I watched an Oilers game last season, Hall played with RNH and Eberle on the first line.

Sky04 01-14-2013 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo (Post 57607067)
Hall barely played with RNH last season. You're not an Oilers fans, so stop acting like you know everything about them.

Right...

http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_time_...11+13+29+31+33

....so you're not an Oiler fan I guess?

He was moved off their line at ES after awhile, still got a TON of PP time with both of them though

Johnny Bravo 01-14-2013 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicko999 (Post 57607175)
Every time I watched an Oilers game last season, Hall played with RNH and Eberle on the first line.

I watched every single game, and I can tell you that Hall and RNH barely played together. They played together on the PP a lot however.

Vdhawan89 01-14-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19NYSports91 (Post 57607013)
Does Hall play with RNH and Eberle? Thats what I thought. I saw both players play a good amount and Seguin is the better player.

Oh okay. I guess I'll just take your word. No stats nor evidence was provided to advance your point so sorry if I dont take your word very seriously.

AKL 01-14-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vdhawan89 (Post 57606785)
Yeah really. Up until his injury, Hall was matching Seguin point for point. And Hall's pro rated stats would of been 36g-35a-71 pts. Im not saying he'd have hit these numbers, because there are many hot and cold streaks that pro-rated stats dont account for, but to say Hall would of had around the same amount of points as Seguin towards season end is not absurd at all. Even if Seguin, is a little better at scoring (which I dont believe he is), Hall makes up with his intangibles. His leadership is off the charts, and the Oilers record reflects that they play better with him in the lockeroom.

Personally I'm more of a fan of Seguin's intangibles, such as playing a full season.

Qrispy 01-14-2013 09:40 PM

Yakupov-Hall

and it's not as close as some fans like to make themselves believe.

Vdhawan89 01-14-2013 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J StClair28 (Post 57607539)
Personally I'm more of a fan of Seguin's intangibles, such as playing a full season.

The guy got injured on an 2 absolute freak accident. Its not like he has a nagging injury that will hold him down for the rest of his career.

Lafleurs Guy 01-14-2013 09:57 PM

Too close to call right now.

What I don't like about Hall though is the way he keeps getting these weird injuries. I just hope the guy doesn't have Carlo Coliacovo Syndrome.

AKL 01-14-2013 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vdhawan89 (Post 57608391)
The guy got injured on an 2 absolute freak accident. Its not like he has a nagging injury that will hold him down for the rest of his career.

If his two main injuries are the skate to the face in warm-up, and the Sarich hit, I'm not convinced. Both injuries resulted from him falling on his own, which doesn't really mean much, but at the same time, come on, learn to stay on your feet. Add in the fact that he can't seem to master skating with his head up... I'm not saying he's gonna be plagued by injuries his entire career, but I'd rather take Seguin because he's the smarter, more aware hockey player.

AKL 01-14-2013 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakuBOT (Post 57607841)
Yakupov-Hall

and it's not as close as some fans like to make themselves believe.

Please do explain why.

Vdhawan89 01-14-2013 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J StClair28 (Post 57608729)
If his two main injuries are the skate to the face in warm-up, and the Sarich hit, I'm not convinced. Both injuries resulted from him falling on his own, which doesn't really mean much, but at the same time, come on, learn to stay on your feet. Add in the fact that he can't seem to master skating with his head up... I'm not saying he's gonna be plagued by injuries his entire career, but I'd rather take Seguin because he's the smarter, more aware hockey player.

Agreed on the standing up part. Hall sometimes looks like bambi on the ice. I can see why some people like Seguin over Hall, due to their play styles, but skill wise I believe they are virtually equal.

maroon 6 01-14-2013 10:04 PM

Should of added RNH amd Landeskog as well. Going with Hall and Yakupov.

Vdhawan89 01-14-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakuBOT (Post 57607841)
Yakupov-Hall

and it's not as close as some fans like to make themselves believe.

I agree on the Hall-Yak part but not close? Thats kinda ridiculous imo.


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