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dronald 01-15-2013 01:12 PM

Kadri or Frattin
 
Who's better or more valuable this year?

I thought this needs a thread this year.

JMcLeaf 01-15-2013 01:14 PM

Kadri is more skilled, but I feel Frattin has a better chance of making the team. I hope both make it though.

Rob Brown 01-15-2013 01:19 PM

Both should make it.

Auzzie19 01-15-2013 01:21 PM

I picked Kadri, I like Frattin and all and he is a very versatile player, but he got an extended look last year and we saw what he can do, it's time to see what Kadri can do with an extended look.

Really want both guys on the team, Nonis better work the phones and dump Lombardi and Connolly to PHX (heard they're looking for a 2C).

Man Bear Pig 01-15-2013 01:22 PM

I'd like to see both make it and I believe both should. No reason to have plugs like Lombardi taking a spot over more deserving young players. It would also make a lot of people shut up. Kadri isn't the NHL yet? BUST.

KingBuzzo 01-15-2013 01:25 PM

Love both, but for sheer high end play making abilities and a possible Savard-esq sub with Kessel down the line, I'm going with Kadri.

meng666 01-15-2013 01:28 PM

They play great together. Such a frustrating situation.
Both are pretty good. Edge to Kadri.

DaveT83* 01-15-2013 01:49 PM

Kadri is the better player.

Frattin would make more of an impact on this current roster

Edge goes to Matt for me

Grant 01-15-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMcLeaf (Post 57631607)
Kadri is more skilled, but I feel Frattin has a better chance of making the team. I hope both make it though.

This is how I feel as well.

MakeTheIronSing 01-15-2013 02:14 PM

If Kadri isn't on this team and Matt Frattin is, then I just have zero hope left for this team going forward. That's a no brainer. Kadri is more skilled, is more productive and has more to prove.

Rockinz 01-15-2013 02:16 PM

both should make it and be on the 2nd line!

JVR - Kadri - Frattin

Guy Boucher 01-15-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Brown (Post 57631865)
Both should make it.

Exactly, especially when the options to replace either of them are Connolly or Lombardi. It's not like they're taking a spot away from Crosby or anything.

Jerkini 01-15-2013 02:29 PM

I think Kadri will be better but right now i'd probably take Frattin.

Kessely Snipes 01-15-2013 02:30 PM

Now Frattin, future Kadri (hopefully).

redbull 01-15-2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dronald (Post 57631493)
Who's better or more valuable this year?

I thought this needs a thread this year.

while I don't think they will compete for the same job, since they are so different as players, I feel Frattin is more NHLready being 25 (3 yrs older than Kadri), a little more man-strength and I'm not sure Frattin has much more upside to his game at the AHL level. He's ready for the NHL test.

Maybe Frattin's upside isn't as high as Kadri, he's probably the better player right now.

Oddly, Kadri as a CENTRE is exactly what the Leafs need. At least, what Kadri's max upside projects him to be, but he's just not that good and may never be that good. And even though Kadri should be able to win a job based on his offense (the unique offensive skills he possesses) along with versatility (able to play C or Wing) - yet he seems to be "not good enough" just yet.

While I'd like to see both on the team. Neither is currently better than players like Bozak, Kessel, Lupul, Kulemin, Grabo. So it comes down to Connolly, Lombardi, Komarov, Steckel, Brown along with Frattin, Kadri for three jobs.

Kadri could benefit most by more minutes and more responsibility in the AHL and is least NHL-ready so it looks like he's not going to make it this year.

The Reaper 01-15-2013 02:35 PM

Matt Frattin

Kyle Doobas* 01-15-2013 02:46 PM

Kadri now and in the future. Not sure why Leafs fans are suddenly so down on him. The guy still has all the tools to be an above-average secondary player in the NHL (a la Grabovski), and has already been more productive than Frattin at every level including the NHL.

kamosko 01-15-2013 02:49 PM

I really want to see how a 3rd line of these guys would work out.

Kadri - Bozak - Frattin

Chandrashekhar Limit 01-15-2013 02:51 PM

I think Frattin is more useful/valuable this year if both make it. Kadri doesn't bring much aside from offensive skill, and that usually takes time to translate well into the big leagues. Fratting brings a big NHL ready body along with his skill, which we can use in a an effective checking/scoring combo.

iArts 01-15-2013 02:51 PM

Frattin is much stronger physically. This is important.

Chandrashekhar Limit 01-15-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamosko (Post 57637347)
I really want to see how a 3rd line of these guys would work out.

Kadri - Bozak - Frattin

That's actually impossible, unless we have Steckel/McClemment as the #1 C. Impossible because if they both make it, that means Lombardi/Conolly doesn't, in which case Bozak is our 2nd best center.

Pheasant the peasant 01-15-2013 02:55 PM

It's time for Kadri to play in the NHL. The organization has done a good job being patient, and not rushing him to the show too soon. Eakins has done a good job in the AHL helping Kadri round out his game. Now it is time to see the results.

I expect Kadri to start the year on the third line with Connolly and Kulemin. Should be a place where he can really succeed.

Guy Boucher 01-15-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pheasant the peasant (Post 57637685)
It's time for Kadri to play in the NHL. The organization has done a good job being patient, and not rushing him to the show too soon. Eakins has done a good job in the AHL helping Kadri round out his game. Now it is time to see the results.

I expect Kadri to start the year on the third line with Connolly and Kulemin. Should be a place where he can really succeed.

Kadri will also almost single-handedly win points for a team through shootouts. How important is that during a short season?

But I still say they should keep both.

HellasLEAF 01-15-2013 03:10 PM

We need to have a look at these two. They should both be there.

Pheasant the peasant 01-15-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Boucher (Post 57638127)
Kadri will also almost single-handedly win points for a team through shootouts. How important is that during a short season?

But I still say they should keep both.

That is a really good point. We don't have guys who are locks to be in every shootout. But Kadri would be. And it would absolutly be worth a point or two in the standings.

It might be nice to keep both. But I don't see how we can fit them on the roster with all the wing depth. Hard enough to fit one of them. Kessel, Lupul, Van Riemsdyk, MacArthur and Kulemin are 5 guys who are ahead of them. Plus Lombardi if he plays, and Connolly might shift to wing if McClement is centering the third line.


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