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Rinzler 01-15-2013 02:58 PM

Amnesty Buyouts for this season - 1 allowed
 
Kypreos just tweeted:
https://twitter.com/RealKyper/status/291267059910836225

This might mean Komisarek gets bought out if he isn't among the top 6 D men in camp.

Phion Keneuf 01-15-2013 02:59 PM

Komi will stay I hope. He'll have a good season, book it.

Dwight K Schrute 01-15-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinzler (Post 57633987)
Kypreos just tweeted:
https://twitter.com/RealKyper/status/291267059910836225

This might mean Komisarek gets bought out if he isn't among the top 6 D men in camp.

He would still count 100% against the cap. No reason at all to do it.

Keeping it Blue 01-15-2013 03:01 PM

I'd be surprised if Toronto used this.

Rinzler 01-15-2013 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight K Schrute (Post 57634145)
He would still count 100% against the cap. No reason at all to do it.

Sure there is, it frees up a roster spot for another player. Let's be honest, last year he was on the lineup many nights despite the fact he wasn't among the 6 best D men we had. This year Komi has way more competition than last year.

Rinzler 01-15-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 57634041)
Komi will stay I hope. He'll have a good season, book it.

Maybe, I hope dropping that weight helps him.

Chandrashekhar Limit 01-15-2013 03:04 PM

If we use the buyout this season, it should be for Connolly. We need roster spots up front, and he seems like the most useless of the 3 bad contracts. We can buy out Komo in the offseason if he doesn't get his **** together.

Clark4Ever 01-15-2013 03:05 PM

So if a team utilizes the option to buy out a player during this window prior to the season opener, the cap hit remains only for the remainder of this season.

Does it makes sense to buy out Komi now and be stuck with his 4.5 million cap hit for the rest of this season?

If the Leafs buy him out in the summer, I assume his cap hit will be on the books next year?

Might as well let him play out his contract or try to unload him in a larger deal before then.

Chandrashekhar Limit 01-15-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rinzler (Post 57634371)
Maybe, I hope dropping that weight helps him.

Lucic looks out of shape so far. Hope Komo kicks his **** to start the coming out party.

socratic 01-15-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinzler (Post 57633987)
Kypreos just tweeted:
https://twitter.com/RealKyper/status/291267059910836225

This might mean Komisarek gets bought out if he isn't among the top 6 D men in camp.

Wow. There is way too much of Kypreos' giant head on that Twitter background page.

Rinzler 01-15-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chandrashekhar Limit (Post 57634407)
If we use the buyout this season, it should be for Connolly. We need roster spots up front, and he seems like the most useless of the 3 bad contracts. We can buy out Komo in the offseason if he doesn't get his **** together.

It's all up to Carlyle. We have to wait patiently for his final list. This option definitely is a bonus for us, that's for sure.

If it comes down to Kadri or Connolly or something like that, perhaps this can be the tie breaker. ;)

-DeMo- 01-15-2013 03:09 PM

this is basically the NHL solution to the Redden/Gomez situation so they can be bought out now that way teams don't just make the stay home. we wont buyout anyone.

trellaine201 01-15-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight K Schrute (Post 57634145)
He would still count 100% against the cap. No reason at all to do it.

This on the fly policy lol by the nhl only helps the un-inspired player who didnt earn his money. This ony benefits the player.

Wacth these come back to haunt the team if they let them go early.

Clark4Ever 01-15-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -DeMo- (Post 57634669)
this is basically the NHL solution to the Redden/Gomez situation so they can be bought out now that way teams don't just make the stay home. we wont buyout anyone.

I tend to agree.

Rockinz 01-15-2013 03:12 PM

no point using it if the cap hit remains...

legendinblue 01-15-2013 03:13 PM

Yea, don't think we will use it on anyone.

Rinzler 01-15-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark4Ever (Post 57634435)
So if a team utilizes the option to buy out a player during this window prior to the season opener, the cap hit remains only for the remainder of this season.

Does it makes sense to buy out Komi now and be stuck with his 4.5 million for the rest of this season?

If the Leafs buy him out in the summer, I assume his cap hit will be on the books next year?

Might as well let him play out his contract or try to unload him in a larger deal before then.

We're unlikely to spend the cap available anyway. Toronto doesn't need the cap space this season, we have too many players as it is. This compromise is all about under-performing players getting an opportunity to get on with their careers elsewhere.

Gryph 01-15-2013 03:16 PM

All depends on if Nonis was planning on buying him out in the summer. I

If he was and Komi doesn't make the top 6, then Nonis will buy him out for the same reason Gomez and Redden are being bought out.

If Nonis was not planning on buying him out this summer and/or Komi makes the top 6, then he won't be bought out.

BlueMapleDawg 01-15-2013 03:18 PM

I would do it just to get rid of Connolly and Lombardi.

Kulemin - Bozak - Kessel
JVR - Grabovski - Frattin
Lupul - Kadri - MacArthur
Brown - McClement - Komarov

number72 01-15-2013 03:22 PM

I'd get rid of Komi before he injures another leaf

stakesishigh 01-15-2013 03:23 PM

Unless we desperately need an open roster spot, there's no sense in using this option at the current time.

Chandrashekhar Limit 01-15-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryph (Post 57635139)
All depends on if Nonis was planning on buying him out in the summer. I

If he was and Komi doesn't make the top 6, then Nonis will buy him out for the same reason Gomez and Redden are being bought out.

If Nonis was not planning on buying him out this summer and/or Komi makes the top 6, then he won't be bought out.

If you look at our D depth, its:

Dion
Gunnar
Liles
Komi
Gardiner (assume healthy)
Holzer
Franson

I really don't think anyone from the A or Rielly impressesing them enough to dump Komi, especially when Gardiner is just recovering from a concussion. You need to have 7 NHL ready bodies, and at the moment, we barely have 7.

Dwight K Schrute 01-15-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rinzler (Post 57634283)
Sure there is, it frees up a roster spot for another player. Let's be honest, last year he was on the lineup many nights despite the fact he wasn't among the 6 best D men we had. This year Komi has way more competition than last year.

He still counts against the cap... you can just sit him in the press box. No one is making you play him. You are misinterpreting this rule... it is only helpful to the gomez or redden type player and has no benefit to the team.

namttebih 01-15-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryph (Post 57635139)
All depends on if Nonis was planning on buying him out in the summer. I

If he was and Komi doesn't make the top 6, then Nonis will buy him out for the same reason Gomez and Redden are being bought out.

If Nonis was not planning on buying him out this summer and/or Komi makes the top 6, then he won't be bought out.

Yup. Can't buy him out if he's on IR

Rinzler 01-15-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight K Schrute (Post 57635757)
He still counts against the cap... you can just sit him in the press box. No one is making you play him. You are misinterpreting this rule... it is only helpful to the gomez or redden type player and has no benefit to the team.

I'm not misinterpreting the rule in any way whatsoever. I'm not sure why you think that. I understand fully that he still counts towards the cap this season.

The benefit is that we can ditch Komi if he doesn't make the team (or any other player for that matter that has an NMC). We don't need the cap savings this year so who cares about that? The roster spot is what I care about.


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