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PredsV82 01-16-2013 06:51 AM

Predators claim Rich Clune on waivers from LA
 
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=5056

LAK blogger on Eks site says he's a Tootoo-type pest.

Do waiver claimed players still have to be put on the NHL roster or else go through waivers again to be sent down?

AtlantaWhaler 01-16-2013 07:16 AM

In the lines thread, we all seem to think he is a temporary filler for Bourque...and that's if he can beat out Mueller in camp.

Seth Lake 01-16-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PredsV82 (Post 57666855)
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=5056

LAK blogger on Eks site says he's a Tootoo-type pest.

Do waiver claimed players still have to be put on the NHL roster or else go through waivers again to be sent down?

Yes, to be sent to Milwaukee, Clune would have to be offered on waivers again. IMO, this is an attempt to replace Tootoo in his role as a disturber. Can't dress McGrattan against every team, especially Detroit...so I anticipate Clune might dress in those games.

Overall though, I look at Clune as a 13th/14th forward candidate.

PredsV82 01-16-2013 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SLake (Post 57667229)
Yes, to be sent to Milwaukee, Clune would have to be offered on waivers again. IMO, this is an attempt to replace Tootoo in his role as a disturber. Can't dress McGrattan against every team, especially Detroit...so I anticipate Clune might dress in those games.

Overall though, I look at Clune as a 13th/14th forward candidate.

I guess I was thinking Yip was our Tootoo substitute....

looks like we are gonna have 23 on the roster, which makes sense with the compressed schedule.

PredsV82 01-16-2013 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaWhaler (Post 57667219)
In the lines thread, we all seem to think he is a temporary filler for Bourque...and that's if he can beat out Mueller in camp.

well crap.. I looked through the threads before starting this thread and didnt see it... it was on a previous page...

mods feel free to merge or delete...

AtlantaWhaler 01-16-2013 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PredsV82 (Post 57667639)
well crap.. I looked through the threads before starting this thread and didnt see it... it was on a previous page...

mods feel free to merge or delete...

Oh...I didn't mean to sound like I was busting you. It probably needs its own thread anyway. I was just saying that, while I agree that he's a replacement for Tootoo, when Bourque is back, I just don't see room.

Erat / Fisher / Kostitsyn
Smith / Legwand / Hornqvist
Wilson / Gaustad / Bourque
Halischuk / Spaling / Yip

Clune
Mueller
McGrattan

IMO, you should carry 7 D-men, so I don't know who goes (assuming there's no injury). Maybe it's their thinking that he'll clear waivers and can move up and down helping give rest on this crazy schedule.

token grinder 01-16-2013 08:25 AM

I think this has to do with adding a little piss and vinegar to the bottom six. Trotz said Bourque may play this weekend, so I would expect him to join the team on the Roadie if his games go well. I see this as mueller would be a good call up for a 2nd-3rd line role, not 4th line energy guy. I do think it may be indicative of Yip spending more time on the bench though. I think with Wilson, Horn, and Gaustad, there is beef to go with the skill. Remember Yip was used on the PP because he would go to the net. I have to think those guys will do that this year. Yip and Clune should be interchangeable spare parts depending on the competiiton

kypredsfan 01-16-2013 08:37 AM

I asked Trotz this morning about Clune. He said he expects Clune to be in the same role Tootoo played last season for us. He expects him to be a crowd favorite before too long as well. He also mentioned that Clune and McGrattan are real good friends and Mac sold him on Trotz.

Roman Yoshi 01-16-2013 08:55 AM

My friend in LA really liked this guy. Hopefully he is able to fill in the same role as Toots did for us.

PredsV82 01-16-2013 09:09 AM

sounds like he's here to stay.. poor Mueller... how much longer does he have before he will have to clear waivers?

AEM6729 01-16-2013 10:08 AM

Looking at this guy's stats, it looks like he only had 14 fighting majors last year...despite having 253 PIMs. So 183 of his PIMs came from minor penalties? That's terrible.

predfan24 01-16-2013 10:44 AM

I remember liking him when I saw him play the little he did for the Kings a few years ago. Guy plays very hard, very physical and is a good skater. So yeah he's going to be like Toots with a little less offense and less fancy crap.

barrytrotzsneck 01-16-2013 11:30 AM

My only gripe with this...

If you're going to pick up this role, shouldn't he be able to do something other than agitate? Like, couldn't we have picked up a penalty killing agitator?

glenngineer 01-16-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AEM6729 (Post 57672161)
Looking at this guy's stats, it looks like he only had 14 fighting majors last year...despite having 253 PIMs. So 183 of his PIMs came from minor penalties? That's terrible.

I bet there were some game misconducts in there. But point taken.

Everlong 01-16-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by predfan24 (Post 57673669)
I remember liking him when I saw him play the little he did for the Kings a few years ago. Guy plays very hard, very physical and is a good skater. So yeah he's going to be like Toots with a little less offense and less fancy crap.

Unless he can actually fight, sounds like an addition that's not really needed. Would much rather see Latta get a roster spot who brings similar physicality but with offensive potential. I'll keep an open mind though before I get to see Clune play.

Does he have any room for growth, or is he pretty much who he is?

I Will Son 01-16-2013 01:44 PM

Eh I don't think this move was needed

CantbeatzPekka 01-16-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by I Will Son (Post 57683159)
Eh I don't think this move was needed



yeah with all his PIMs last year the last thing we need is to be killing off some boneheads offensive zone penalty because he was trying to "agitate".



I thought we let toots walk for a reason....?

NoNecksCurse 01-16-2013 09:08 PM

worthless pickup.. the NHL isn't a fighting league anymore. if we want an agitator, how about someone with more to his game? isn't that why toots left?

I Will Son 01-16-2013 09:19 PM

Yea... We have Yip..... Clune.... Ew

adsfan 01-16-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Everlong (Post 57682401)
Unless he can actually fight, sounds like an addition that's not really needed. Would much rather see Latta get a roster spot who brings similar physicality but with offensive potential. I'll keep an open mind though before I get to see Clune play.

Does he have any room for growth, or is he pretty much who he is?

Latta is a middleweight fighter at the AHL level. If he goes to Nashville, the Admirals will need Clune in Milwaukee, or they will be nearly defenseless in the fighter department.

PredsV82 01-16-2013 10:24 PM

I dont get the hate.. he's been picked up as our 13th/14th forward...

did you think we were going to find a top 6 winger on the waiver wire??

because of the compressed season we need 14 forwards.

this guy was available for free.

if he turns out to be useless, he'll get sent to milwaukee.

if he isnt useless, yay us...

but either way its no biggie...

Drake744 01-16-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hustlechuck24 (Post 57669329)
My friend in LA really liked this guy. Hopefully he is able to fill in the same role as Toots did for us.

Same here, but I'm still not sure it was necessary.

dknash 01-16-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AEM6729 (Post 57672161)
Looking at this guy's stats, it looks like he only had 14 fighting majors last year...despite having 253 PIMs. So 183 of his PIMs came from minor penalties? That's terrible.

The 253 PIMs were from 11-12, when he had 23 FMs. Down to 138 minor/non-fighting major/misconduct minutes. Looks like 4 misconducts, which brings it to 98. 5 roughings, an instigator, a holding and a boarding were incurred at the same time as the FMs (so 8), and 3 of the 8 coincided with a minor on the other team, so 92? That's still high, though. Especially for 56 games. Could be some non-fighting misconducts?

This year is 35 games, 98 PIMs - 14 FMs = 28 assorted PIMs. Apparently no misconducts.

Top 6 Spaling 01-16-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NoNecksCurse (Post 57708459)
worthless pickup.. the NHL isn't a fighting league anymore. if we want an agitator, how about someone with more to his game? isn't that why toots left?

I agree it is close to "worthless", but we gave up absolutely nothing for him. If he doesn't work out, we put him right back on waivers, no harm done. We are going to face injuries this year, and you can never have enough depth. LA fans seemed to really like him, and we have no small-class fighters on the team.

I'm not thrilled either, but there's no downside to picking up a guy this cheap on waivers.

NoNecksCurse 01-16-2013 11:18 PM

agreed there is no downside.. but its still worthless. if they are worried about weber being the only suitable fighter on the ice, shouldn't they have worried about it in the offseason? not now less than a week before opening night.. or was just a case of being short on spending money and got something they didn't think could afford. toots is a better player than clune is why i say this. clune has a good motor. i could see toots and clune dropping the gloves on feb 19th. actually, id put money on it..


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