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quebec_nordiques 01-16-2013 08:16 PM

Starting Lineup
 
Hey guys im wondering what was gonna be the starting lineup of your team looks like at the season opener?

piqued 01-16-2013 08:29 PM

It's too early to say. Benn is unsigned, a few guys are hurt, others are still battling for spots.

piqued 01-18-2013 01:57 PM

Apparently this is what it's going to be:


Eriksson-Roy-Jagr
Whitney-Wandell-Ryder
Morrow- Fiddler-Nystrom
Garbutt-Eakin-Smith

Goligoski-Robidas
Benn-Daley
Dillon-Larsen

Lehtonen
Nilstorp

Frozen Failure 01-18-2013 02:09 PM

Hello 8th overall pick!

BigG44 01-18-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frozen Failure (Post 57796427)
Hello 8th overall pick!

At worst 12th - 14th.

Benn will miss some games, but the forward depth and quality is a major improvement. The goalie position is stronger and deeper with the addition of Nilstorp.

The D isn't anything to write home about, but they improved over last year IMO, and they almost made the playoffs with that D and much weaker forward group. Dillon will prove to be a significant improvement over Souray IMO. Benn and Fistric are essentially a wash, but you did get more mobility and puck skills with Benn which is important for GMJN. I'm not thrilled Benn is in the Top 6 or Rome should he prove to play more, but I'd take this team over last years with little hesitation.

txomisc 01-18-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigG44 (Post 57797691)
At worst 12th - 14th.

Benn will miss some games, but the forward depth and quality is a major improvement. The goalie position is stronger and deeper with the addition of Nilstorp.

The D isn't anything to write home about, but they improved over last year IMO, and they almost made the playoffs with that D and much weaker forward group. Dillon will prove to be a significant improvement over Souray IMO. Benn and Fistric are essentially a wash, but you did get more mobility and puck skills with Benn which is important for GMJN. I'm not thrilled Benn is in the Top 6 or Rome should he prove to play more, but I'd take this team over last years with little hesitation.

I am not sure the d has improved. Robidas may actually be worse, Dillon may have not have a seamless transition, and obviously Jordie Benn and Aaron Rome are nothing to write home about. This defensive group has the potential to be off the charts bad in front of the net.

ginblossoms 01-18-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by txomisc (Post 57799179)
I am not sure the d has improved. Robidas may actually be worse, Dillon may have not have a seamless transition, and obviously Jordie Benn and Aaron Rome are nothing to write home about. This defensive group has the potential to be off the charts bad in front of the net.

this is what i'd expect...

an improved goligoski -> + (upside that hasn't been tapped yet imo)
a much-improved larsen -> +++ (solid minutes/play in finland)
the same daley -> wash
the same robidas (honestly can't think he could play worse) -> wash
dillon for fistric -> + (better positionally and with the puck)
benn for souray -> - (benn may be more mobile but can't match souray's net presence)
rome for pardy -> wash

add some negatives this season from the inexperience of benn/dillon and i say this year's group is about as good as last year. however, there is a decided lack of collective physicality that concerns me.

Cin 01-18-2013 03:35 PM

Dillon-Larsen as the #3 pair is lame. They'll out produce the hell out of Daley-Benn.

Hull Fan 01-18-2013 03:47 PM

The defense may or may not be better than last year but how Dallas deals with the condensed schedule, especially Lehtonen is where this team will hinge. I don't expect miracles but I also don't foresee a bottom 5 finish.

The offense should be good to really good at times and the power play by definition has to improve right? Still I think this is a bubble team and will come down to injuries, Benn's absence, travel and little recovery time between games, that will dictate where they eventually end up in the standings.

12-15th overall pick.

Elysian 01-18-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by piqued (Post 57795631)
Apparently this is what it's going to be:


Eriksson-Roy-Jagr
Whitney-Wandell-Ryder
Morrow- Fiddler-Nystrom
Garbutt-Eakin-Smith

Goligoski-Robidas
Benn-Daley
Dillon-Larsen

Lehtonen
Nilstorp

I like keeping Eakin and Smith together, I hate Wandell centering the 2nd line.

piqued 01-18-2013 04:04 PM

As things stand right now it's a weak lineup. I count at least 7 guys playing in spots that outpace their ability.

MetalGodAOD* 01-18-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by piqued (Post 57802755)
As things stand right now it's a weak lineup. I count at least 7 guys playing in spots that outpace their ability.

How would you feel if it was:

Erikkson-Benn-Jagr
Whitney-Roy-Ryder
Morrow-Eakin-Smith
Garbutt-Fiddler-Nystrom
Sceviour/Wandell

Because besides adding Benn, really the only difference is the coaching using the 3rd and 4th line interchangeably.

WhoahNow 01-18-2013 04:25 PM

Could you play Eakin and Smith on the second line while we wait for Benn to resign? They've both been playing all year and are in mid-season form.

Eriksson-Roy-Jagr
Whitney-Eakin-Smith
Morrow-Fiddler-Nystrom
Garbutt-Wandel-Ryder


Ryder kind of gets the shaft, but I put him on the fourth line just to keep that 3rd line together. Keep in mind this would only be for a few games to start out the season.

Primetimey* 01-18-2013 04:27 PM

If they did something like that, Ryder and Nystrom would swap.

The Frugal Gourmet 01-18-2013 04:30 PM

Man, I say there's no way you put a guy who's been hot in the AHL over the NHL's 11th best goal scorer. I don't care if he has chemistry with Eakin or not.

If he looks great, fantastic. You consider moving him up.

And Fiddler/Nystrom/Morrow, I predict, will be fine for now. Realize that Fiddler/Nystrom -- other than Benn -- faced the highest average quality of opponent last season and Fiddler logged the most penalty kill time. Their stats weren't great, but they weren't great against absolute quality players. You don't throw the kids to the wolves quite yet. They'll have a chance to show their stuff. It's only a starting lineup.

Morrow? Who knows. It's a make or break year for him. He could be done but I could also see him come back a little with a nice long offseason.

And I think the forward depth -- with Benn -- will be just fine for now. Maybe a little soft, but it can be addressed. That's why you give a little leeway to potential has-beens like Morrow. If he's got something left... well... it might be useful. We need some bodies front of that net w/ this lineup.

piqued 01-18-2013 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalGodAOD (Post 57803089)
How would you feel if it was:

Erikkson-Benn-Jagr
Whitney-Roy-Ryder
Morrow-Eakin-Smith
Garbutt-Fiddler-Nystrom
Sceviour/Wandell

Because besides adding Benn, really the only difference is the coaching using the 3rd and 4th line interchangeably.

I'd feel a little better, sure. The elephant in the room remains that collection of players masquerading as a defense.

Elysian 01-18-2013 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piqued (Post 57804921)
I'd feel a little better, sure. The elephant in the room remains that collection of players masquerading as a defense.

Goligoski/Robidas is the only one I really don't like, the rest are good. I think Benn and Dillon have done quite well in the AHL.

piqued 01-18-2013 05:02 PM

Daley and Larsen are the only players I have confidence in.

I wanted to see more out of Dillon this year in CP. He didn't play poorly enough to jeopardize his chance at an NHL spot, but he also didn't remove all doubt that had outgrown that level. He could very well step up and claim a regular spot in the lineup and bring a new dimension to the team or fall on his face and look like a rookie. Either is possible.

Benn on the other hand I soured on after watching him this season. I originally thought he could handle the #7 role but now I think even that would be too much for him. And now he's been thrust into the lineup with Rome hurt and Fistric traded. It's very possible that we get Woywitka/Pardy level of play out of him.

Robidas should've been traded long ago, that doesn't need to be re-hashed. Goligoski I think is a liability and will be over-exposed as usual.

Not a whole lot that can be done though. Transition year.

ElGuapo 01-18-2013 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piqued (Post 57805635)
Daley and Larsen are the only players I have confidence in.

I wanted to see more out of Dillon this year in CP. He didn't play poorly enough to jeopardize his chance at an NHL spot, but he also didn't remove all doubt that had outgrown that level. He could very well step up and claim a regular spot in the lineup and bring a new dimension to the team or fall on his face and look like a rookie. Either is possible.

Benn on the other hand I soured on after watching him this season. I originally thought he could handle the #7 role but now I think even that would be too much for him. And now he's been thrust into the lineup with Rome hurt and Fistric traded. It's very possible that we get Woywitka/Pardy level of play out of him.

Robidas should've been traded long ago, that doesn't need to be re-hashed. Goligoski I think is a liability and will be over-exposed as usual.

Not a whole lot that can be done though. Transition year.

Agree, except on your comments about Dillon and Benn just because I haven't seen them(except one game on FSSW). I'm not big on Goligoski. To me he should be on a third pairing based on his defense..even though he can rack up points. But the Stars can't do that. Robidas..ugh.

FrailSwan 01-18-2013 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piqued (Post 57805635)
Daley and Larsen are the only players I have confidence in.

I wanted to see more out of Dillon this year in CP. He didn't play poorly enough to jeopardize his chance at an NHL spot, but he also didn't remove all doubt that had outgrown that level. He could very well step up and claim a regular spot in the lineup and bring a new dimension to the team or fall on his face and look like a rookie. Either is possible.

Benn on the other hand I soured on after watching him this season. I originally thought he could handle the #7 role but now I think even that would be too much for him. And now he's been thrust into the lineup with Rome hurt and Fistric traded. It's very possible that we get Woywitka/Pardy level of play out of him.

Robidas should've been traded long ago, that doesn't need to be re-hashed. Goligoski I think is a liability and will be over-exposed as usual.

Not a whole lot that can be done though. Transition year.

Benn or Rome?

piqued 01-18-2013 05:47 PM

Benn.

Stars99Lobo37 01-18-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piqued (Post 57805635)
It's very possible that we get Woywitka/Pardy level of play out of him.

:cry::cry::cry:

FrailSwan 01-18-2013 06:55 PM

Remember when Woywitka made that fluke goal from our own blue line? :laugh:

piqued 01-18-2013 07:05 PM

Wha? He scored from inside the opponent's blue line in Anaheim if that's the one you're talking about.

FrailSwan 01-18-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by piqued (Post 57811357)
Wha? He scored from inside the opponent's blue line in Anaheim if that's the one you're talking about.

Nah, there was one all the way from our side. I wanna say it was against SJ, but I can't remember.


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