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YMCMBeaulieu 01-17-2013 07:52 AM

Habs Hire Scout Artem Telepin
 
Ken Campbell ‏@THNKenCampbell

Former Blue Jackets scout Artem Telepin has been hired as Montreal Canadiens scout in Russia.

http://bluejackets.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=61568

Seems like he has quite a bit of experience scouting in Russia.

Habs 4 Life 01-17-2013 07:57 AM

Is this the guy responsible for the drafting of Filatov and Zherdev by the Jackets?

MasterDecoy 01-17-2013 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 chainz (Post 57723291)
ken campbell ‏@thnkencampbell

former blue jackets scout artem telepin has been hired as montreal canadiens scout in russia.

http://bluejackets.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=61568

seems like he has quite a bit of experience scouting in russia.

AAaaAArgh!!!!!!

YMCMBeaulieu 01-17-2013 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Habs 4 Life (Post 57723413)
Is this the guy responsible for the drafting of Filatov and Zherdev by the Jackets?

Well he probably had input in the decision but I highly doubt their GM and head scouts would rely on just a Russian scout to make a top 5 selection in a draft.

FireBergevin 01-17-2013 08:05 AM

So was he the guy who missed dozens of good prospects or the guy who the BJs never listened to?

HatTricK09 01-17-2013 08:06 AM

I'm scared.

Kimota 01-17-2013 08:12 AM

So we hired a Bond villain, eh?

Roulin 01-17-2013 08:12 AM

Russians drafted by Columbus during his tenure:

Vostrikov - 6th round
Tkachenko - 4
Mozyakin - 9
Zherdev - 1
Kosmachev - 3
Guskov - 7
Plekhanov - 3
Mayorov - 4
Filatov - 1

...this looks pretty bad to me, but I guess there's Columbus' poor track record of development across the board to factor in...

hototogisu 01-17-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Habs 4 Life (Post 57723413)
Is this the guy responsible for the drafting of Filatov and Zherdev by the Jackets?

Those were universally regarded as top 5-10 picks, you didn't need a Russian specialist to scout them. Those failures fall more on the Jackets' horrible prospect development, not their scouting.

Anyway according to Roulin's post it doesn't look like he has a brilliant track record but more eyes in Russia can't hurt I suppose.

SeriousHabs 01-17-2013 08:22 AM

We will know who not to draft!

Vasculio 01-17-2013 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roulin (Post 57723769)
Russians drafted by Columbus during his tenure:

Vostrikov - 6th round
Tkachenko - 4
Mozyakin - 9
Zherdev - 1
Kosmachev - 3
Guskov - 7
Plekhanov - 3
Mayorov - 4
Filatov - 1

...this looks pretty bad to me, but I guess there's Columbus' poor track record of development across the board to factor in...

Mozyakin is a superstar in the KHL, we all know the Zherdev experiment didn't quite work in the NHL, even though he showed great potential early, still a star in the KHL, Filatov, didn't work either, Mayorov I thought could surprise, well, he didn't, Guskov never left Russia, and have been a pretty good D for most of his career... now, we're talking about Columbus, so maybe they didn't take the time to help them adapt, or whatever, but there are good players there, and with the development team we have in place now, who knows. Like someone said though, he's only one scout...

niftymove 01-17-2013 08:26 AM

Not too impressive imao. Filatov and Zherdev were certainly not his shots at 4th and 6th picks overall.

Marc the Habs Fan 01-17-2013 08:46 AM

He was indeed there since 1999 for those wondering.

http://bluejackets.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=61568

zzoo 01-17-2013 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HatTricK09 (Post 57723605)
I'm scared.

Me too.

Kriss E 01-17-2013 09:14 AM

No worries, Timmins oversees everything. I'm sure he has a say in who's hired as scouts, and if he doesn't like, my guess is they don't hire.

Watsatheo 01-17-2013 09:18 AM

This year there are a lot of high upside Russians, makes sense to boost our staff there.

ZARTONK 01-17-2013 09:20 AM

The more the merrier.

PricePkPatch 01-17-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kriss E (Post 57725713)
No worries, Timmins oversees everything. I'm sure he has a say in who's hired as scouts, and if he doesn't like, my guess is they don't hire.

Indeed. He no doubt already asked reports on elements Timmins himself had scouted and probably liked the input.

Marc the Habs Fan 01-17-2013 09:27 AM

To be fair, Columbus did make a hell of a trade for a guy like Nikita Nikitin recently, who had been in the KHL as recently as 2010, so Telepin probably had a say in that trade since it seems he was scouting amateur and pro.

Kriss E 01-17-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PricePkPatch (Post 57725979)
Indeed. He no doubt already asked reports on elements Timmins himself had scouted and probably liked the input.

Most likely. Otherwise, imagine how easy it would be to become a scout..
Hey, you're in Russia. Hey, you scout players. Let's look at the list of guys you drafted. Hmmm..pretty much all NHL flops. You're hired!
Sure, that makes sense. That's how an interview and hiring process works, obviously..

HCH 01-17-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HatTricK09 (Post 57723605)
I'm scared.

That is a bit dramatic, especially when you know nothing about the guy.

Gourou 01-17-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeriousHabs (Post 57724019)
We will know who not to draft!

I doubt you can point to only one guy for the failures of most of CBJ draft picks. There is not only Zherdev and Filatov, there is Brule, Picard, Leclaire, etc This is more of a system problem. Also, with the high exposure top prospects its certainly not only is decision. Dont forget he doesnt scout other countries so he is not the one choosing to draft Zherdev over Getzlaf, Perry, Carter etc. I think a scout has to push more for the late rounds picks and most of the time late round russians stay in russia.

Halifaxhab* 01-17-2013 09:50 AM

having a guy scouting the KHL for talent can't hurt. If we ever need to sign a player to fill a role, what better league to steal from if we can, and his 2 cents can help in the decision.

zzoo 01-17-2013 10:00 AM

http://tvasports.ca/hockey/canadiens...uteur-17012013

niftymove 01-17-2013 10:10 AM

Wasnt the Habs russian scout fired by Gauthier with a bunch of other scouts in a huge scout clearance last year or in 2010?

Marc Antoine Godin ‏@MAGodin
Artem Telepin, jadis de Columbus, se joint au CH. Le club n'avait pas de recruteur en Russie depuis que Gauthier avait remerciť Nik Vakourov


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