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Bring Back GLR 01-18-2013 05:42 AM

Perry or Getzlaf?
 
Both these guys are UFAs come July 1st granted they could be resigned prior, but if they're not as Hawk fans would you want Bowman to finally step up and make a bold move and make a play for one of them and if so which one? With Getzlaf our #2 Centre prayers are answered, imagine Getzlaf, Sharp and Hossa as a second line, or would we want a guy who ripped 50 a couple of years ago and who could do it again as well. They're both the same age and with Anaheim going backwards these days I could see one of them in the Indianhead soon. My pick would be Getzlaf.

Chelios 01-18-2013 05:51 AM

Honestly? Neither. With the cap coming down next year, I am pretty sure it would require getting rid of one of our core pieces to acquire either.

Sir Psycho T 01-18-2013 06:16 AM

I don't think the Hawks would have the cap space to sign either.

However if it's just a what one would you rather have period question.

Getzlaf and it's not close.

Perry plays a position we are deep at already and don't need. Plus he has a attitude I really don't like.

Getalaf solves tons of issues. A true #2 C, a leader on and off the ice, someone who can play the PK and PP well, he is a very physical player who hits a ton, he plays a very well rounded two way game, he can shut down his opposition as well as get you goals.

UsernameWasTaken 01-18-2013 06:44 AM

perry is probably more attainable than getzlaf would be.

perry's the better player, although getzlaf would fill more of our needs. i think that there's a good chance getzlaf re-signs in anaheim and i doubt they can afford both. the downside with perry is it means we'll end up with one of our top players playing out of position

i think it would be hard to attract getzlaf...he's the captain and 1c in anaheim - is he going to want to come here and end up as #2? i doubt it.

TorMenT 01-18-2013 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chelios (Post 57776629)
Honestly? Neither. With the cap coming down next year, I am pretty sure it would require getting rid of one of our core pieces to acquire either.

This. While Getzlaf would be nice to fill the 2C hole we have, we will already be flirting with the cap limit when it drops significantly next year. Buyouts will help a little, but I don't see us having the cap space to sign either without unloading some of our expensive core.

digdug41982 01-18-2013 08:18 AM

Hope to get one, will be happy either way, Montador and not resigning Stalberg while dumping Frolik allows it. I'd prefer Perry very easily, he's just too good to pass up on. Kane becomes 2C for good.

Hawkaholic 01-18-2013 09:09 AM

If we weren't loaded with Hossa and Kane, it would be Perry by a mile.

But since we are, Getzlaf.

However, IF the team plans on buying out Hossa in 14-15, sign Perry.

Illinihockey 01-18-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 57778989)
Hope to get one, will be happy either way, Montador and not resigning Stalberg while dumping Frolik allows it. I'd prefer Perry very easily, he's just too good to pass up on. Kane becomes 2C for good.

If they buy out Olesz and Montador they'll be at $54 mil with 17 players signed. Leddy and Kruger are RFA's so you can probalby get them for about $4.5 mil combined. That puts you at $58.5 mil with 19 players signed. Get a low cost back up goalie for $1.5 that puts you at $59.5 with 20 players signed. Not sure you can afford Perry or Getzlaf who will both get around $5-$6 mil. Maybe if you trade Frolik and bring up some kids.

UsernameWasTaken 01-18-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Illinihockey (Post 57780941)
If they buy out Olesz and Montador they'll be at $54 mil with 17 players signed. Leddy and Kruger are RFA's so you can probalby get them for about $4.5 mil combined. That puts you at $58.5 mil with 19 players signed. Get a low cost back up goalie for $1.5 that puts you at $59.5 with 20 players signed. Not sure you can afford Perry or Getzlaf who will both get around $5-$6 mil. Maybe if you trade Frolik and bring up some kids.

they're both getting $5.3m off their UFA extensions. jeff skinner's RFA extension will kick in at $5.7. i'm pretty sure Perry/Getzlaf are going to be looking for a lot more than $5-$6m. they're both going to want $7 minimum, probably more.

xX Hot Fuss 01-18-2013 09:24 AM

1) Getz and Perry will get Parise money...maybe slightly less

2) LONG TERM, the hawks are nowhere near capable of fitting either of them under the cap, even with getting rid of Frolik, Montador, and Olesz

Paul Allen 01-18-2013 09:25 AM

Getzlaf

I think they'll trade a couple prospects at the deadline to get him. They have, or can easily make the cap room for next season. The real question is where bolland will be resigned and for how much.

UsernameWasTaken 01-18-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xX Hot Fuss (Post 57781179)
1) Getz and Perry will get Parise money...maybe slightly less

2) LONG TERM, the hawks are nowhere near capable of fitting either of them under the cap, even with getting rid of Frolik, Montador, and Olesz

i was just thinking about it...they might actually create a bigger cap hit b/c backdiving contracts have been eliminated. parise's hit is $7.5m (which is what i was thinking Perry/Getzlaf) could get...but Parise has a 14 year contract.

Illinihockey 01-18-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by UsernameWasTaken (Post 57781079)
they're both getting $5.3m off their UFA extensions. jeff skinner's RFA extension will kick in at $5.7. i'm pretty sure Perry/Getzlaf are going to be looking for a lot more than $5-$6m. they're both going to want $7 minimum, probably more.

Ya you are right. I didn't look at their numbers before estimating their salary. It will be interesting to see what guys get with the cap going down, not up.

MadhouseOnMadison 01-18-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xX Hot Fuss (Post 57781179)
1) Getz and Perry will get Parise money...maybe slightly less

2) LONG TERM, the hawks are nowhere near capable of fitting either of them under the cap, even with getting rid of Frolik, Montador, and Olesz

This sounds about right.

It's funny you always hear in player polls about how Chicago is the most sought after destination and how they'd love to play here but when it comes to big UFA signings I never see any of them take a cap friendly contract to back up that statement.

DontToewzMeBro 01-18-2013 09:35 AM

See ya Hjarlmasson seeya Oduya hello .800k D x 2 seeya Frolik that's minus like 5.5 right there.

Saad-Toews-Kane
Sharp-Getzlaf-Hossa
Shaw-Bolland-Bickell
Smith-Kruger-Bollig

Keith-Seabrook
Leddy-Roszival
Brookbank-Olsen

TorMenT 01-18-2013 09:37 AM

You still have a cap going down 6 million I believe after this year, and contracts to extend coming up. It's not that simple

xX Hot Fuss 01-18-2013 09:44 AM

Not signing Parise was a blessing in disguise

Central PA Hawk Fan 01-18-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 57778989)
Hope to get one, will be happy either way, Montador and not resigning Stalberg while dumping Frolik allows it. I'd prefer Perry very easily, he's just too good to pass up on. Kane becomes 2C for good.

lol, keep setting yourself up so you can rant about the hawk's brass this offseason. It doesn't matter if they're getting rid of Folik, Montador or even Hammer, they're not going to add another long term high priced FA to the team with all the big money guys already on it. Especially with the cap going down, plus the most likely need for a goaltender....yeah, not happening.

UsernameWasTaken 01-18-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xX Hot Fuss (Post 57781921)
Not signing Parise was a blessing in disguise

and to think we were coming up with different ways to fit both parise and suter on to the team :amazed:

digdug41982 01-18-2013 09:48 AM

How could I forget, launch Oduya too.

zytz 01-18-2013 09:54 AM

While I would love to have Getzlaf on the team, Bowman should go after neither, as it would require dumping other pieces of the core to fit them in. Only way either of those guys join is by dumping one of Toews, Kane, Sharp, Hossa.

DayNah 01-18-2013 10:09 AM

Getzlaf. I'd be willing to trade anyone not named Toews or Kane up front to get him.

ReLyT 01-18-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkaholic (Post 57780695)
If we weren't loaded with Hossa and Kane, it would be Perry by a mile.

But since we are, Getzlaf.

However, IF the team plans on buying out Hossa in 14-15, sign Perry.

Exactly my opinion, minus the Hossa buyout, I think that'd be a mistake.

Beukeboom Fan 01-18-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xX Hot Fuss (Post 57781179)
1) Getz and Perry will get Parise money...maybe slightly less

2) LONG TERM, the hawks are nowhere near capable of fitting either of them under the cap, even with getting rid of Frolik, Montador, and Olesz

Agree 100%. The thought that the Hawks add another $6+M player are really ludicrious.

Guys currently making $5.5M+: Toews, Kane, Hossa (more or less), Sharp, Seabrook, Keith. Thats the core, and even if Getzlaf isn't resigned by ANA, the thought that Hawks would outbid a team desperate for a #1 center is ludicrous.

Bubba88 01-19-2013 02:41 AM

sign Getzlaf, buyout Hossa. Problem solved


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