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h22prelude93 01-18-2013 12:25 PM

Blues Sign Wade Redden (1 year, $800K)
 
Per Twitter: @Chris Kerber

Blues have signed Wade Redden



Edit: Contract Details
@jprutherford
Redden's deal with Blues is reportedly $800, 000 pro-rated. #stlblues
@andystrickland
As reported Wade Redden to #stlblues 1 yr $800 cap hit

MattyMo35 01-18-2013 12:27 PM

I guess we'll see how this works. I wonder if they think he'll take a place in the top 6, or if he'll be in the press box until an injury occurs.

DrVanntastic 01-18-2013 12:32 PM

Depending on the salary I'm happy with this. The only reason the guys was playing in the AHL was because his contract was an albatross.

1 year at $800k... I'm on board.

One Man Rock Band 01-18-2013 12:34 PM

1-year, $800K.

RobinDIF 01-18-2013 12:34 PM

It's 800k.

TheOrganist 01-18-2013 12:38 PM

The biggest reverberation of this signing for me is that it doesn't say much for how Ian Cole is currently viewed by Hitchcock and Armstrong.

nyr2k2 01-18-2013 12:38 PM

He was very helpful developing the younger players in Hartford for us. McDonagh specifically mentioned Redden's tutelage on a couple of occasions.

I think he was too slow for the NHL in any capacity three years ago. I can't imagine he's any more mobile now. That said, he seems like a good dude and I wish him well. Hope it works out for you all. :)

CarvinSigX 01-18-2013 12:40 PM

I'm thinking Sydor 2.0, but we'll see.

Chojin 01-18-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOrganist (Post 57791207)
The biggest reverberation of this signing for me is that it doesn't say much for how Ian Cole is currently viewed by Hitchcock and Armstrong.

I don't know that it says anything about Cole. There's three scenarios:

A) Cole in top 6, Redden 7th
B) Redden in top 6, Cole 7th
C) Redden in top 6, Woywitka 7th, Cole to Peoria

If it's A, they just want to have stronger defensive depth, and it doesn't say anything about Cole. Otherwise, yeah, it means that Cole hasn't impressed.

Daley Tarasenkshow 01-18-2013 12:48 PM

Does this mean Colin White is gone?

STL fan in IA 01-18-2013 12:49 PM

I haven't seen Redden play a game in 3 years so I have no idea if this will be a good move or not. I've heard the entire spectrum of what to expect - he's either a scrub who is nowhere near good enough for the NHL anymore to him still being a quality top-4 d-man but just didn't fit into the Rangers plans and cost too much.

Sounds like the Blues really wanted to add some insurance to the left side and I would think that they hoping that eventually, Redden will be the player they can pair with Petro. This pretty much assures that White won't be signed and it looks like Woywitka will likely be heading to Peoria fairly soon as well. Assuming Redden performs well enough (it might take him a week or two to get back up to speed), then I suppose this also likely puts Cole in the 7th spot...but he'll still get his time in as you know Hitch is going to rotate guys in and out of the lineup with such a condensed schedule, not to mention the likely injuries also due to the condensed schedule.

I'm calling it now - Blues beat the Rangers in the Cup Finals with help of Redden as he goes all Superman to get revenge on the Rags. :naughty:

BlueSinceBirth 01-18-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reavesthemaniac (Post 57791859)
Does this mean Colin White is gone?

I would assume so. It didn't sound like he looked good in camp.

Chojin 01-18-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reavesthemaniac (Post 57791859)
Does this mean Colin White is gone?

Unless he wants to take a two-way deal, I think he's done.

Superscout 01-18-2013 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCB (Post 57790945)
1-year, $800K.

Maybe my crystal ball IS werking? I pitched one yr deal at 750K. Seeing as Redden can still put more than enuff peanut butter on the table thanks to his "still hefty" buyout from the NYR.

JustOneB4IDie 01-18-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarvinSigX (Post 57791357)
I'm thinking Sydor 2.0, but we'll see.

or Huskins I'll add.

Daley Tarasenkshow 01-18-2013 01:00 PM

I don't see Redden playing a full 48 games this season. He's already ruled out of tomorrow home opener. I see 30 games max.

Alklha 01-18-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOrganist (Post 57791207)
The biggest reverberation of this signing for me is that it doesn't say much for how Ian Cole is currently viewed by Hitchcock and Armstrong.

I don't think it says anything about Cole. You look to improve the team, and Redden at $800k is a gamble we would be completely stupid not to take.

I am really happy with the signing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by reavesthemaniac (Post 57792529)
I don't see Redden playing a full 48 games this season. He's already ruled out of tomorrow home opener. I see 30 games max.

Getting picked up at this stage, he was never going to be in the frame to play tomorrow night.

Steve Doan 01-18-2013 01:05 PM

Not surprised, but good move at a great price.you can never have enough veteran dmen.

TheOrganist 01-18-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chojin (Post 57791617)
I don't know that it says anything about Cole. There's three scenarios:

A) Cole in top 6, Redden 7th
B) Redden in top 6, Cole 7th
C) Redden in top 6, Woywitka 7th, Cole to Peoria

If it's A, they just want to have stronger defensive depth, and it doesn't say anything about Cole. Otherwise, yeah, it means that Cole hasn't impressed.

This summer was supposed to be another "huge" off-season for Cole (Dan O'Neil wrote a nice article on the topic after the season re: Cole's development and a possible partner for Petro) and heading into training camp he should've had a leg up on the competition by competing in the AHL (which Hitch said was the biggest advantage during the lockout).

And yet here we are with the Blues signing a 35+ defenseman and Cole likely heading back to the AHL where, if the Blues still believe in him long-term, it would be much better for him to get top 4 minutes with Peoria than your option B.

Hitch the other day said Cole cannot play against top players which means he's not ready for a top 4 role. They gave him another chance...the staff deems he's not ready. That, more than anything else, is what necessitated the Redden signing.

The problem with Cole is that he says all the right things but seems to be having a difficult time taking that next step in his development. When he's in the A, the report are that he's steady but not a guy who's a stud like a Brendan Smith (same draft class).

I like Cole, I do, I'm just wondering if the powers that be in the organization are losing faith in his long-term, top-4 potential.

He'll be 24 in a month.

BlueDream 01-18-2013 01:21 PM

Well, I guess they got their depth...

I guess I'm okay with Redden although I have no idea what his skill level is these days. How many depth defensemen do we need? We still haven't solved our issue (partner for Pietrangelo). But we now have several guys who could be considered a #6 or 7. Cole, Redden, Woywitka, White (guess he's probably gone now though). Yay? I just don't know how it will play out. Nothing to be too excited over. But if Cole struggles it could be bad news for him.

SirPaste 01-18-2013 01:21 PM

I don't see redden making much of an impact, Sydor all over again. Cole will be playing regularly

Bluesman91 01-18-2013 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOrganist (Post 57793341)
This summer was supposed to be another "huge" off-season for Cole (Dan O'Neil wrote a nice article on the topic after the season re: Cole's development and a possible partner for Petro) and heading into training camp he should've had a leg up on the competition by competing in the AHL (which Hitch said was the biggest advantage during the lockout).

And yet here we are with the Blues signing a 35+ defenseman and Cole likely heading back to the AHL where, if the Blues still believe in him long-term, it would be much better for him to get top 4 minutes with Peoria than your option B.

Hitch the other day said Cole cannot play against top players which means he's not ready for a top 4 role. They gave him another chance...the staff deems he's not ready. That, more than anything else, is what necessitated the Redden signing.

The problem with Cole is that he says all the right things but seems to be having a difficult time taking that next step in his development. When he's in the A, the report are that he's steady but not a guy who's a stud like a Brendan Smith (same draft class).

I like Cole, I do, I'm just wondering if the powers that be in the organization are losing faith in his long-term, top-4 potential.

He'll be 24 in a month.

Cole needs to be traded. I've been saying it for 2 years but he is a bottom pairing defenseman or does not crack the NHL. Would like to see Dags, Cole, and a pick to go for a true partner for petro.

Cole has the abilities to play at a high level of hockey, but his hockey IQ is what makes him a bad player. Trade him now before his stock drops anymore.

Alklha 01-18-2013 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOrganist (Post 57793341)
This summer was supposed to be another "huge" off-season for Cole (Dan O'Neil wrote a nice article on the topic after the season re: Cole's development and a possible partner for Petro) and heading into training camp he should've had a leg up on the competition by competing in the AHL (which Hitch said was the biggest advantage during the lockout).

And yet here we are with the Blues signing a 35+ defenseman and Cole likely heading back to the AHL where, if the Blues still believe in him long-term, it would be much better for him to get top 4 minutes with Peoria than your option B.

Hitch the other day said Cole cannot play against top players which means he's not ready for a top 4 role. They gave him another chance...the staff deems he's not ready. That, more than anything else, is what necessitated the Redden signing.

The problem with Cole is that he says all the right things but seems to be having a difficult time taking that next step in his development. When he's in the A, the report are that he's steady but not a guy who's a stud like a Brendan Smith (same draft class).

I like Cole, I do, I'm just wondering if the powers that be in the organization are losing faith in his long-term, top-4 potential.

He'll be 24 in a month.

Do you have a link to these comments from Hitchcock about Cole?

sh724 01-18-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluesman91 (Post 57793653)
Cole needs to be traded. I've been saying it for 2 years but he is a bottom pairing defenseman or does not crack the NHL. Would like to see Dags, Cole, and a pick to go for a true partner for petro.

Cole has the abilities to play at a high level of hockey, but his hockey IQ is what makes him a bad player. Trade him now before his stock drops anymore.

It would not be surprising at all to see that trade really soon

Honeycutt 01-18-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirPaste (Post 57793583)
I don't see redden making much of an impact, Sydor all over again. Cole will be playing regularly

Yup, in the AHL.


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