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rt 01-18-2013 12:27 PM

Which Set of Players is More Effective?
 
NOT FANTASY RELATED!

Of the two groups, which do you prefer? Which is the superior set?



Team A:
Ray Whitney
Daymond Langkow
Patrick O'Sullivan
Taylor Pyatt
Adrian Aucoin
Michal Roszival

Team B:
Steve Sullivan
Antoine Vermette
Matthew Lombardi
David Moss
Zbynek Michalek
David Rundblad

EDIT: Had to replace Stone with Rundblad because Stone was just sent down.

JFG 01-18-2013 12:28 PM

How did you come up with these groups?

rt 01-18-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JFG (Post 57790617)
How did you come up with these groups?

The primary difference between the first 48 games of Coyotes hockey last season and what we will have to start the next 48 games.

Benny FTW 01-18-2013 12:37 PM

B.

Better depth and way better dmen.

MastuhNinks 01-18-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benny FTW (Post 57791159)
B.

Better depth and way better dmen.

Really?

rt 01-18-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MastuhNinks (Post 57792247)
Really?

It's really no contest. Roszival is out of a job and Aucoin will probably be a mid-season retirement. He's done, and I can't believe Columbus' pro-scouts don't know it.

bruinsfan46 01-18-2013 01:19 PM

B by the slimmest of margins, really wanted to go A because of Whitney but went for B's depth.

Ceremony 01-18-2013 01:28 PM

Have to go with B on this.

SweYote 01-18-2013 02:06 PM

B. Not that close really.

Kimahri 01-18-2013 02:09 PM

B, because of the overall depth. But the loss of Whitney is going to be a lot bigger than people are expecting.

DesertDawg 01-18-2013 02:21 PM

poll only reflects what this season will start with vs last season. Knowing Maloney and what he has done the last few seasons, this roster will improve more.

SenateReform 01-18-2013 02:28 PM

B but it's fairly close

dss97 01-18-2013 02:32 PM

The set without Patrick O'Sullivan wins because it doesn't include Patrick O'Sullivan.

Le Magnifique 66 01-18-2013 02:45 PM

Team B

Fred Taylor 01-18-2013 03:13 PM

Team B.

InjuredChoker 01-18-2013 03:18 PM

B. Much more balanced group.

rt 01-18-2013 06:39 PM

I'm a bit suprised that the poll leans so heavily toward B but the Coyotes are generally so downgraded in pre-season standings projections. Can anyone who voted B but still expects Phoenix to draft in the top ten explain their stance?

TaLoN 01-18-2013 06:47 PM

Team B - I must vote against any group of players that includes Patrick O'Sullivan!

rt 01-18-2013 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaLoN (Post 57810677)
Team B - I must vote against any group of players that includes Patrick O'Sullivan!

Haha. Gee, that inclusion is really swaying opinion. Perhaps, I should've put Cal O'Reilly in his place. I only went with POS because he is more relevant to the first 48 of last season. :)

Izzy 01-18-2013 10:48 PM

B. First two in A are all they have going for themselves.

LatvianTwist 01-18-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 57810307)
I'm a bit suprised that the poll leans so heavily toward B but the Coyotes are generally so downgraded in pre-season standings projections. Can anyone who voted B but still expects Phoenix to draft in the top ten explain their stance?

The fact that on paper, they're a pretty terrible team but Tippett is one of the best coaches when it comes to regular season success. That's just how it works here. I think they'll be right around the same place they were last year, personally.

bruinsfan46 01-19-2013 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rt (Post 57810307)
I'm a bit suprised that the poll leans so heavily toward B but the Coyotes are generally so downgraded in pre-season standings projections. Can anyone who voted B but still expects Phoenix to draft in the top ten explain their stance?

Disbelief in Mike Smith. He was well regarded in Dallas early in his career, then was terrible in Tampa. He certainly isn't a Tampa bad goalie but myself and a lot of others I would imagine aren't quite sure he will repeat last year's spectacular performance. And Whitney is a huge loss for a team without much high end offensive talent. Tippett is a great coach and if anyone can do it again he can but I just don't see that much talent in the desert to repeat their performance in a very tough Western Conference.

mpp9 01-19-2013 09:04 AM

There's a sizable difference between Sullivan and Whitney. Especially at ES. But Phoenix's strength is their defense and goaltending. Their D only got stronger, so as long as Smith wasn't a one hit wonder, they're a playoff team.

sjaustin77 01-19-2013 10:13 AM

1st group had a PPG lead .41 to .38 which only equals a 12 point advantage if each player plays 82 games.

I would still take the 2nd group because of the D and I think Vermette, Lombardi & Rundblad score more this year than last, giving the 2nd group more points than the 1st this year.

I also think this list should include 2013 Boedker vs 2012 Boedker. I think he is ready to break out. He and Korpikoski (only 11 games) just led all NHL forwards in PPG that played in Finland during the lockout.

I think it is probably a career year (to this point) for Boedker and possible for Korpikoski. They are 23 and 26 years old respectively. Most of the team is young and at an age where they should be improving. Only Doan and Sullivan are over 31 for forwards. Only Morris is over 30 for defensemen.

I would say the reasons Phoenix is lower in preseason rankings are the loss of Whitney, no number 1 center again, and questions if Smith can repeat his performance.

Dr Quincy 01-19-2013 12:58 PM

Eh. Not much difference to tell you the truth.


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