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ottawa* 01-19-2013 11:50 PM

684 days later...the Pacioretty-Chara incident revisited
 
Everyone had time to cool off (hopefully) so I was just wondering if peoples opinions may have changed or not...was the hit intentional or accidental?

I thought I'd clear this up because the first few comments are picking both answers so here it is:
He wanted to hit him and he accidentally injured him by driving him into the stanchion
He wanted to hit him and intentionally injured him by driving him into the stanchion


Incident:


Random fact: Chara and Pacioretty did have issues in prior games leading up to the one where Pacioretty got injured



Threads discussing it in case anyone is interested
PART I
PART II
PART III
PART IV
PART V
PART VI
PART VII
PART VIII
PART IX

Random players, owners, etc.
Thornton: league favours bruins
Habs owner calls out Boston and the league and addresses fans
Air Canada threatens
Liberal leader gets involved
Police gets involved (LOL)

Halo reenacts the hit:




Sorry if I'm reopening any old wounds or arguments between the habs fanbase and the bruins one, I don't mean to...very deep down we all like each other

The Waffler 01-20-2013 12:16 AM

I think he intentionally hit him into the stanchion, but I don't think he expected or wanted the result to be that severe.

Paranoid Android 01-20-2013 12:21 AM

Every hit is intentional. I know that's not what you mean but you should be more specific.

Billy Mays Here 01-20-2013 12:50 AM

This thread will end well.

chopkins 01-20-2013 12:52 AM

Chose "accidental" because the options are stupid. No, Chara did not intentionally destroy Pacioretty, but he did intentionally drive him into the stanchion.

Hammer Time 01-20-2013 12:57 AM

Chara's hit was intentional in the sense that it was after the puck was gone and Chara still carried through with the hit.

It was accidental in the sense that Chara wasn't trying to hurt him that badly.

fly4apuckguy 01-20-2013 01:08 AM

I felt then, as I feel now, that there was intent to injure. You don't do what Chara did and expect a different outcome unless you are as dumb as dirt.

crazy Kassian 01-20-2013 02:38 AM

Intentional

TAnnala 01-20-2013 02:58 AM

I can't see how it was not intentional? He clearly drove Pacioretty to the stanchion. The result was regrettable but these things happen.

I have no grudge for Chara but it does seem a bit too hard what he did.

ottawa* 01-20-2013 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chopkins (Post 57922011)
Chose "accidental" because the options are stupid. No, Chara did not intentionally destroy Pacioretty, but he did intentionally drive him into the stanchion.

Fixed the question in the OP so you can understand better :)

KnightofBoston 01-20-2013 07:08 AM

I personally felt the hit was reckless and that Chara should have sat for a game or two - he's enough of a vet to know where the stanchion is

That said, I don't think he intended to hurt Paccioretty one but, just cowboy him up and keep him from escaping. Happened too quick

LSnow 01-20-2013 08:00 AM

I think it was intentional, and i think he wanted to hurt him, i just think he didn't expect him to get so severely injured.

Le Magnifique 66 01-20-2013 08:13 AM

I think it was intentional and Chara really wanted to hit him hard but I don't think he wanted that result. The puck was passed Chara for a while and he clearly didn't care and knew what he wanted to do

tony d 01-20-2013 08:44 AM

Intentional.

RedBruin 01-20-2013 08:48 AM

Poll is kinda pointless. Of course the hit was intentional, that's never been in question.

Izzy 01-20-2013 08:58 AM

I don't think Chara intentionally tried to injure him. He obviously meant to hit him, but not like that

Trap Jesus 01-20-2013 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottawa (Post 57919421)
Random fact: Chara and Pacioretty did have issues in prior games leading up to the one where Pacioretty got injured

Thanks for that completely random fact. :laugh:

I dunno, it was clear interference, and the hit was absolutely intentional, but whether he wanted to ride him into the stanchion or not is still up in the air for me. I'd speculate no, but have no problems with someone thinking he did. If he did do it on purpose, I don't think there was any intent to injure. It would have had to be a split-second decision, and I don't think there was enough time there for him to think it out much. People like to think of Chara as some behemoth that plays dirty, but he really doesn't have many other questionable hits.

Pierce Hawthorne 01-20-2013 09:38 AM

Accidental.

Seriously this is so stupid, the hit wasn't even dirty besides being maybe a second late. Chara certainly didn't try to injure him.

I mean just look at Chara ever since that hit, he hasn't been the same player, hes been timid on the ice almost afraid to really hit someone because of what he did to Patches, he doesn't want that to happen again.


My guess is 95% of people will say intentional are Habs fans who still haven't gotten over it.

Dellstrom 01-20-2013 09:50 AM

The hit was intentional, not many people hit someone on the opposing team by accident.

He definitely didn't want to hurt him that bad. That's ridiculous. Of course the two had issues in prior games, so he wanted to land a big hit, because that's what he does. But he didn't break his neck on purpose.

96 01-20-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Waffler (Post 57920719)
I think he intentionally hit him into the stanchion, but I don't think he expected or wanted the result to be that severe.

I feel this way as well.

tsujimoto74 01-20-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Waffler (Post 57920719)
I think he intentionally hit him into the stanchion, but I don't think he expected or wanted the result to be that severe.

I tend to agree with this. Chara was in position to hit him sooner (which would've made the hit both not late and not into the stanchion), but didn't. I certainly don't think he intended to injure Patches that badly, though.

dan1el 01-20-2013 11:26 AM

Hit was intentional, but there was no intent to injure. There is no way he actually targeted the stanchion when hitting Pac.

Kershaw 01-20-2013 12:17 PM

Chara didn't intend to injure Paccioretty, so I voted accidental. It was a strong hockey play by the biggest man in the NHL.

Hardyvan123 01-20-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paranoid Android (Post 57920945)
Every hit is intentional. I know that's not what you mean but you should be more specific.

exactly, the OP has clarified his intentions in the opening post but too many people are drawing an intention after the fact.

Chara isn't a dirty player and if "everyone knew about the danger" why didn't officials act upon changing it?

It was clearly a hockey play and even the penalty was result driven guys get ridden out and "interfered with like that 20 plus times a game.

Milan the God* 01-20-2013 12:54 PM

I think he intentionally wanted to hit him into the stanchion. You can see him hitting Patches and then using his glove to steer his head into the stanchion.

Did he want to severely injure him? Doubt it. You never know, but I don't see Chara like that.


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