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Frenchy 01-20-2013 04:36 PM

Rayan O'Rayli , From Russia with love
 
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BoxOfChocolates 01-20-2013 04:38 PM

Can't believe that we're already on our 3rd thread.

Freudian 01-20-2013 04:41 PM

So what if we sign O'Reilly and the Russian team won't release him? ;)

Avs_19 01-20-2013 04:47 PM

I was going to create a new thread with the exact same title. Beaten to it by Frenchy.

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Originally Posted by Freudian (Post 57957033)
So what if we sign O'Reilly and the Russian team won't release him? ;)

Nothing changes. We continue to argue and freak out while the Avs wait for O'Reilly. But that would really suck.

The Kingslayer 01-20-2013 04:52 PM

From Denver, with disdain

- Greg Sherman

Rhaego 01-20-2013 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freudian (Post 57957033)
So what if we sign O'Reilly and the Russian team won't release him? ;)

We go to war ;)

Bender 01-20-2013 05:27 PM

Quote from Freudian from the previous thread:

We'll see what happens. It's going to be a test of the maturity of this organization and willingness to do what it takes to win.

If Avs feel they have to trade him because he dared to be a tough negotiator, it's really bad news for the future. O'Reilly is the type of player you win championships with.


Oh I agree with what you're saying, however I just don't see it. Regardless of the contract he ends up signing with the Avs, the questions will always be thereafter...'what happens when it expires'? 'How much is he going to want then'?

I'm not saying it's the right move, I'm just convinced he'll be dealt now. Sure he IS one of those players you win championships with but there are ALSO a lot of good players in this league that are also very valuable.

Also, I agree wholeheartedly on what you'd offer on a long-term 6+ deal which is EXACTLY what I've been proposing all along as well...well, until now. Now that he's actually missed a game, I believe the Avs will leave him in Russia for the entire season, pushing his UFA status back a year and either deal him at the draft or during the summer.

A lot of you scoffed when I mentioned the possibility to let him 'rot' over there for a while, early on in this process. It's looking like a real possibility and it would go a long way to at least show that there are consequences to such actions.

Hell, I'd love to believe that the deal will get done within the next few weeks and that everything will be honky dory again but from everything I can gather from the stance that O'Reilly has chosen COMBINED with everything I've seen from this organization for the last 18 years, I don't see this working out long-term. He's a goner. Likely, he'll be sent packing to a market where people don't give a crap about hockey, just to spite him. (lol)

Bubba Thudd 01-20-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bender (Post 57960123)
Likely, he'll be sent packing to a market where people don't give a crap about hockey, just to spite him. (lol)

Do the Bluejackets have anything we would want for ROR?

BrickAHL 01-20-2013 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Thudd (Post 57960517)
Do the Bluejackets have anything we would want for ROR?

Jack Johnson/Ryan Murray.

Bubba Thudd 01-20-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BrickAHL (Post 57960629)
Jack Johnson/Ryan Murray.

I'd love to get JJohnson, but I doubt they are ready to trade him away.

Avs_19 01-20-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BrickAHL (Post 57960629)
Jack Johnson/Ryan Murray.

Do the Blue Jackets have anything we would want and they would be willing to trade for O'Reilly?

Crisp Breakout 01-20-2013 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Avs_19 (Post 57960827)
Do the Blue Jackets have anything we would want and they would be willing to trade for O'Reilly?

John Moore?

BrickAHL 01-20-2013 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Thudd (Post 57960751)
I'd love to get JJohnson, but I doubt they are ready to trade him away.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avs_19 (Post 57960827)
Do the Blue Jackets have anything we would want and they would be willing to trade for O'Reilly?

I agree with you guys that it most likely won't happen but I was just answering the question if there is anything from Columbus that we would want.

BrickAHL 01-20-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crisp Breakout (Post 57961135)
John Moore?

Not for O'Reilly.

Av-merican 01-20-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba Thudd (Post 57960517)
Do the Bluejackets have anything we would want for ROR?

Nope.

Rhaego 01-20-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Av-merican (Post 57961389)
Nope.

I'd take Ryan Murray for him (even though he's hurt)

Av-merican 01-20-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockies94 (Post 57961511)
I'd take Ryan Murray for him (even though he's hurt)

I suppose, there's one top prospect. Still ridiculous that a team that's been that bad for that long doesn't have more than one elite prospect or player.

The Kingslayer 01-20-2013 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avs_19 (Post 57960827)
Do the Blue Jackets have anything we would want and they would be willing to trade for O'Reilly?

No they been screwed over alot by Russians in the past. Zherdev and Filatov no way will they even consider Russian O'Reilly

Rhaego 01-20-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Av-merican (Post 57961761)
I suppose, there's one top prospect. Still ridiculous that a team that's been that bad for that long doesn't have more than one elite prospect or player.

Johansen+ would be intriguing to

Crisp Breakout 01-20-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockies94 (Post 57962077)
Johansen+ would be intriguing to

There's not a chance in hell they'd give up Johansen, let alone add, for O'Reilly.

Rhaego 01-20-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Crisp Breakout (Post 57962153)
There's not a chance in hell they'd give up Johansen, let alone add, for O'Reilly.

Why? :help:

chewey 01-20-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockies94 (Post 57962077)
Johansen+ would be intriguing to

Why would you want another center when defense is our most glaring need?

avsfan09 01-20-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Av-merican (Post 57961761)
I suppose, there's one top prospect. Still ridiculous that a team that's been that bad for that long doesn't have more than one elite prospect or player.

Atkinson could be really good. Johansen has great potential too.

Crisp Breakout 01-20-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockies94 (Post 57962369)
Why? :help:

Because Johansen is going to be a #1 center. I would be ecstatic with that swap, but go ask the Jackets fans and see how they react.

Av-merican 01-20-2013 07:26 PM

It's kind of beside the point anyway, folks. Seriously doubt the Blue Jackets are in a huge hurry to throw money at a guy reportedly demanding $25 million when they got killed by the cap last season.


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