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marty 4 hart* 01-21-2013 05:42 PM

Who would you rather have on your team? Greatest D,F or goalie.
 
Who would you rather have on your team? Greatest defender ever, greatest forward ever or greatest goalie ever.

The Bored Man 01-21-2013 05:53 PM

Gretzky. So, forward.

FrozenJagrt 01-21-2013 05:54 PM

Is each one expected to have a long, healthy career?

If so, Bobby Orr. I really wanted to go with greatest goaltender (Hasek), but Orr was dominant in all three zones.

marty 4 hart* 01-21-2013 05:58 PM

[QUOTE=Ace14;58036919]Is each one expected to have a long, healthy career?

yes

Frenchy 01-21-2013 06:38 PM

it's not an easy question , Gretzky or Orr ?

WarriorOfGandhi 01-21-2013 06:42 PM

Hasek

I Hate Chris Butler 01-21-2013 07:03 PM

Give me a full career of Bobby Orr.

LPH 01-21-2013 07:11 PM

I'll take Gretzky, makes everyone around him just so much better

Bathcat 01-21-2013 07:24 PM

The guy playing 60mins a game over the guy playing 30 mins a game over the guy playing 20mins a game.

G > D > F

Name 5 skaters off that Buffalo team when Hasek was in his prime and carried them to SCFs. Ya I thought so.

I Hate Chris Butler 01-21-2013 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bathcat (Post 58044747)
The guy playing 60mins a game over the guy playing 30 mins a game over the guy playing 20mins a game.

G > D > F

Name 5 skaters off that Buffalo team when Hasek was in his prime and carried them to SCFs. Ya I thought so.

Unlike Hasek, Gretzky and Orr were actually able to make their teams champions and not finalists.

Orr123 01-21-2013 07:39 PM

Haha, initially reading this I picked D. As I was thinking greatest Forward bunch, Greatest D bunch and the Greatest G pairing. But since I seemingly have to pick just ONE player, I would probably end up actually going with a goaltender.

WarriorOfGandhi 01-21-2013 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bathcat (Post 58044747)
The guy playing 60mins a game over the guy playing 30 mins a game over the guy playing 20mins a game.

G > D > F

Name 5 skaters off that Buffalo team when Hasek was in his prime and carried them to SCFs. Ya I thought so.

Jason Woolley, lol

Howard Beale 01-21-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bathcat (Post 58044747)
The guy playing 60mins a game over the guy playing 30 mins a game over the guy playing 20mins a game.

G > D > F

Name 5 skaters off that Buffalo team when Hasek was in his prime and carried them to SCFs. Ya I thought so.

Yes, but how much of that 60 minutes will be spent in the defensive zone, 25 minutes? The goalie isn't contributing when the puck is in the offensive zone, so the 60-minute argument is somewhat misleading.

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Hate Jay Feaster (Post 58045121)
Unlike Hasek, Gretzky and Orr were actually able to make their teams champions and not finalists.

Right, because Hasek and Gretzky played on equally talented teams. Fair comparison. :laugh:

AD1066 01-21-2013 08:32 PM

Gretzky or Hasek.

I'm not sure if Orr would maintain the same level of relative dominance to his peers today.

Eskimo44 01-21-2013 08:37 PM

If you get a full career out of Bobby Orr it's a toss up between him and Gretzky. A healthy Lemieux is also a wildcard. I take Gretzky.

Seth Rollins 01-21-2013 08:46 PM

We already had Roy, so I'll take a full career of Bobby Orr.

Izzy 01-21-2013 09:11 PM

Hasek. Tough decision.

Nizdizzle 01-21-2013 09:12 PM

It depends, if I'm picking from Gretzky vs Orr vs best goalie, I'd take Wayne. If, however, we're assuming the same level of dominance regardless of position (i.e. Gretzky level goalie) I'd take goalie.

Hammer Time 01-21-2013 09:14 PM

I'll take 20 years of Bobby Orr please.

JOHNBOY 01-21-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorOfGandhi (Post 58048621)
Jason Woolley, lol

:laugh::laugh:

Goalie for sure (Roy/Hasek)

Bathcat 01-21-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Beale (Post 58051149)
Yes, but how much of that 60 minutes will be spent in the defensive zone, 25 minutes? The goalie isn't contributing when the puck is in the offensive zone, so the 60-minute argument is somewhat misleading.

Not always.



:sarcasm:

edit: on a serious note, goalies can contribute offensively. Look at the Dallas Stars with Turco. Their breakout was highly dependent on Turco's puckhandling skills and they often capitalized on line changes.

iPunch 01-21-2013 09:52 PM

Absolutely goalie, no question at all.

Seto 01-21-2013 10:15 PM

Can't get anywhere without a good goalie.

You can without a star forward or defenseman.

STC 01-21-2013 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nova III (Post 58061843)
Can't get anywhere without a good goalie.

You can without a star forward or defenseman.

so you're saying that Niemi was more important to the Hawks than Toews or Keith? Gotcha.:shakehead

iPunch 01-21-2013 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STC (Post 58065069)
so you're saying that Niemi was more important to the Hawks than Toews or Keith? Gotcha.:shakehead

And for that one team that did it with decent goaltending, there is about 90 in the history of the NHL that had hot goaltending.


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