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Quaider* 01-22-2013 05:12 AM

Lewis had his Mowers. Does Claude have his Bourque?
 
I see a disturbing trend here. It seems that Chris Bourque is seeing undeserved PP time and basically too many shifts. Then he uses him in the shoot-out?

I hope this is not the case, but it makes one wonder if his fathers history with the team is having an influence on the decisions involving Chris. The guy is simply not that good.

PsychoDad 01-22-2013 05:18 AM

Bourque had the 9th TOI among all forwards yesterday. Considering that he's playing on the 3rd line its pretty much an indication that he is not overused by Julien.

SerenityRick 01-22-2013 06:27 AM

....It's two games into the season............

/face_palm

ReggieMoto 01-22-2013 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brushhawg (Post 58070327)
I see a disturbing trend here. It seems that Chris Bourque is seeing undeserved PP time and basically too many shifts. Then he uses him in the shoot-out?

I hope this is not the case, but it makes one wonder if his fathers history with the team is having an influence on the decisions involving Chris. The guy is simply not that good.

He's getting his shot, that's all. Many of us suspect it won't last long, but the experiment must take place before any front-office and behind-the-bench conclusions can be drawn.

MVP36 01-22-2013 06:36 AM

He may not have scored in the shootout, but man, the moves he made alone justify Claude putting him out there IMO.

Alicat 01-22-2013 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brushhawg (Post 58070327)
I see a disturbing trend here. It seems that Chris Bourque is seeing undeserved PP time and basically too many shifts. Then he uses him in the shoot-out?

I hope this is not the case, but it makes one wonder if his fathers history with the team is having an influence on the decisions involving Chris. The guy is simply not that good.

2 games in sheesh. :help:

He did the exact same moves Bergy and Seguin did. Pavalec is suspect but when you face the same shot for the 3rd time chances are he's going to make the save.

Gee Wally 01-22-2013 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brushhawg (Post 58070327)
I see a disturbing trend here. It seems that Chris Bourque is seeing undeserved PP time and basically too many shifts. Then he uses him in the shoot-out?

I hope this is not the case, but it makes one wonder if his fathers history with the team is having an influence on the decisions involving Chris. The guy is simply not that good.

LOL.

Colonel Mustard with the candlestick in the library.

No coach at this level is going to risk his job because of somebody's daddy.
They are giving him a try out based on what he's achieved in Prov..

MarshmontMcSlewfoot 01-22-2013 06:54 AM

What the **** is this garbage? Awful thread.

Bourque has made the PP look better so far when he has been on it.

I think he has a spot in the lineup too. I'd like to occasionally swap him and Paille between the 3rd and 4th line a couple times a game I think Claude thinks the same thing.

500k cap hit? Let Spooner develop and come up when he is ready to be an NHL center. Let Caron earn his shot (and fight the other prospects for next guy called up.)

I like Bourque. Someone has to take a long hard look in the mirror for getting on a local kid who happens to be Ray Bourque's son this early in his Bruins career. Embarrassing thread.

DaveFromNB 01-22-2013 06:58 AM

Julien deserves the benefit of the doubt, we've seen him over the years give the most ice time to the most deserving players over time, and if over a few games Bourque doesn't cut it, his TOI and even roster status will get adjusted. Bourque won the AHL scoring race last season by a landslide, I'm all for seeing if he can finally replicate that success in the NHL.

And for the shootout, loved seeing him out there. Quite often a new player has pretty good success in the shootout as teams don't have a scouting report on them.

Kaoz* 01-22-2013 07:04 AM

At this point it's not about earning powerplay time, it's about having a powerplay that works. If it works with Campbell on there you put Campbell on it. If it works with Paille on there you put Paille on it. When it isn't working you try all your options and Bourque was a good one to try as he's had success running PP's in the AHL.

4ORRBRUIN 01-22-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CharaTriedToEatMe (Post 58071185)
What the **** is this garbage? Awful thread.

Bourque has made the PP look better so far when he has been on it.

I think he has a spot in the lineup too. I'd like to occasionally swap him and Paille between the 3rd and 4th line a couple times a game I think Claude thinks the same thing.

500k cap hit? Let Spooner develop and come up when he is ready to be an NHL center. Let Caron earn his shot (and fight the other prospects for next guy called up.)

I like Bourque. Someone has to take a long hard look in the mirror for getting on a local kid who happens to be Ray Bourque's son this early in his Bruins career. Embarrassing thread.

This is embarrassing ....

Therick67 01-22-2013 07:16 AM

I'm all for giving this kid a chance, but I thought having him shoot 3rd in the shootout was a bit much..

PlayMakers 01-22-2013 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brushhawg (Post 58070327)
I see a disturbing trend here. It seems that Chris Bourque is seeing undeserved PP time and basically too many shifts. Then he uses him in the shoot-out?

I hope this is not the case, but it makes one wonder if his fathers history with the team is having an influence on the decisions involving Chris. The guy is simply not that good.

I think he's just giving the kid every chance to succeed. It's not like Bourque is a baby faced rookie who needs to learn the pro game (like Seguin was or Hamilton is). Bouque's been around awhile. Put up 90 something points in the AHL last season.

I admit, I was also surprised in the shootout when he went with Bourque over Krejci, who has a higher success rate than anyone on the B's not named Seguin, but Bourque has good quick hands and has had success on the PP and in the shootouts at the AHL level -and has probably looked good when they practice the SO- so he gave him a shot.

BNHL 01-22-2013 07:26 AM

Julien's probably seen Bourque enough in Pro and in practice to convince him the chance is warranted. Shootouts are simple skill exercises and I'm sure he was there with no regard to what we've seen in 2 NHL games.

Morris Wanchuk 01-22-2013 07:28 AM

This joke could be made about the Fribble club (Campbell, Paille, and Kelly) and be somewhat correct and maybe even funny.

But Bourque? Really? I just don't get it.

ODAAT 01-22-2013 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brushhawg (Post 58070327)
I see a disturbing trend here. It seems that Chris Bourque is seeing undeserved PP time and basically too many shifts. Then he uses him in the shoot-out?

I hope this is not the case, but it makes one wonder if his fathers history with the team is having an influence on the decisions involving Chris. The guy is simply not that good.

Thread lost me the minute Julien`s name mentioned in the same sentence as Lewis with all due respect

WBC8 01-22-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brushhawg (Post 58070327)
I see a disturbing trend here. It seems that Chris Bourque is seeing undeserved PP time and basically too many shifts. Then he uses him in the shoot-out?

I hope this is not the case, but it makes one wonder if his fathers history with the team is having an influence on the decisions involving Chris. The guy is simply not that good.

Me too. This Bourque hate is ridiculous. He has played fine. He has as many points as Horton, Kelly and Peverley. He fits in nice on that third line IMO and should be given atleast 10 games....

MarshmontMcSlewfoot 01-22-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4ORRBRUIN (Post 58071477)
This is embarrassing ....

No, the sentiment to root against Bourque because we know he is a fringe NHL player (due to age) is horrible. The team gave Ken Hodge's kid a shot and got rewarded with a ton of goals before he inevitably made a quick exit from pro hockey.

FURTHERMORE...the Bourque for small money signing is excellent because he bridges 2 seasons where there was a lot of uncertainty the second of which the cap will go down and his cap hit is extremely low. So in terms of roster management PC was smart to have him instead of another body who won't play in the top 6 pulling in 2 mil or so. Thats what a 3rd liner who can play some PP costs.

We know what Caron is, Spooner needs time, Knight needs more time, and we can still make a trade.

Bourque is a good move.

ODAAT 01-22-2013 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WhamBamCam8 (Post 58071837)
Me too. This Bourque hate is ridiculous. He has played fine. He has as many points as Horton, Kelly and Peverley. He fits in nice on that third line IMO and should be given atleast 10 games....

Good post, my "expectations" of Bourque aren`t much different from those I had with Pouliot, that is/was to play a responsible game, contribute from time to time. BP exceeded my expectations, played hard and yes, fell alot, took a few ill timed penalties (ahem, Looch/Marchand not much different but receive many free passes) and I think for the $$, BP more than paid back the Bruins.

Bourque? Well, were 2 games in, and having just finished watching game #2, he looked fine, I don`t expect any 3rd liners to either steal the show. At some point (and that isn`t now) he`ll have to chip in though

Komarov47 01-22-2013 07:41 AM

Is he in the lineup because Caron is injured or something? Seeing how all stars AHLer (Conacher, Kostka,Aucoin,Bolduc, Jordie Benn...) are used right now and how they perform, it doesn't seems ridiculous to use Bourque.

Therick67 01-22-2013 07:43 AM

I have no problem with Bourque getting a shot, he's played fine. I just thought going with him 3rd in the shootout was a bit of a reach.

Artemis 01-22-2013 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Komarov47 (Post 58071991)
Is he in the lineup because Caron is injured or something? Seeing how all stars AHLer (Conacher, Kostka,Aucoin,Bolduc, Jordie Benn...) are used right now and how they perform, it doesn't seems ridiculous to use Bourque.

Yes, Caron has an upper-body injury.

Julien said post-game that Bourque has had success in the SO in the AHL. Coaches don't just pick guys willy-nilly. He also has extensive experience quarterbacking the PP.

Silly thread is silly.

Scotto74 01-22-2013 07:57 AM

He is a third line wing getting a shot. It's not like we have someone riding the pine that is a superstar 3rd liner.

Roll 4 Lines 01-22-2013 07:58 AM

Reading the GDT yesterday (while supposedly working!) I was expecting to see a train wreck named Chris Bourque when I watched the Bruins in 2.

What I saw was a guy who made 2 nice passes on his first 2 shifts, both leading to scoring chances.

There was a blown assignment in the D end and he may have curled back to the third-man-high position a time or 2 when he could have drove to the net, but nothing that should lead to him being the resident whipping boy after 2 games.

I guess when you're team is 2-0 with a GAA of 1.00 you need to find something to complain about! :laugh:

Morris Wanchuk 01-22-2013 08:00 AM

Are people really wishing to see Krejci in a shootout.. really?


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