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Seb 01-23-2013 12:26 PM

Would Detroit be interested in Yannick Weber or Tomas Kaberle?
 
Both are most likely not in the Habs plan in the future and would be cheap to trade for.

I think a 3rd round pick for each could be a good return. Anyone else?

Blind Gardien 01-23-2013 12:31 PM

I think it's premature for the Habs to pack it in with their D. Granted, those two may not be in the long run plans for the Habs. Granted, they may not draw big returns. Granted, Detroit needs help *now*. But at the same time, the Habs have just 7D right now themselves, and that's the right number to have.

If/when Subban comes back, and if the Habs D is still healthy at that time, maybe an option to make an early deal opens up. But not now. Further along the season, towards the trade deadline, say, if the Habs are sellers, then it's a different story. But we're not there yet. I don't think management will just assume now that that's where the team is headed. (Even if it is rather likely).

One Man Rock Band 01-23-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Gardien (Post 58158403)
I think it's premature for the Habs to pack it in with their D. Granted, those two may not be in the long run plans for the Habs. Granted, they may not draw big returns. Granted, Detroit needs help *now*. But at the same time, the Habs have just 7D right now themselves, and that's the right number to have.

If/when Subban comes back, and if the Habs D is still healthy at that time, maybe an option to make an early deal opens up. But not now. Further along the season, towards the trade deadline, say, if the Habs are sellers, then it's a different story. But we're not there yet. I don't think management will just assume now that that's where the team is headed. (Even if it is rather likely).

Habs still have St-Denis though too. They could easily move one guy.

Analyzer 01-23-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCB (Post 58158817)
Habs still have St-Denis though too. They could easily move one guy.

Fill one soft puck mover's spot with another. I like it.

Pretty sure Detroit has no interest. I believe Holland was asked if there's going to be a deal, he said no and would bring up Kindl.

Of course he could be lying, but I think they'd rather try out a youngster than to trade just to plug a whole.

joe89 01-23-2013 12:44 PM

Probably not, no. Both are the wrong type of player and Wings now have nine guys, albeit quantity guys when the bodies start to get healthy again. Can't add more guys just for the sake of it, it's not gonna solve any problem the D core currently has.

SoupNazi 01-23-2013 12:53 PM

Zero interest in either of them.

One Man Rock Band 01-23-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Analyzer (Post 58158889)
Fill one soft puck mover's spot with another. I like it.

Pretty sure Detroit has no interest. I believe Holland was asked if there's going to be a deal, he said no and would bring up Kindl.

Of course he could be lying, but I think they'd rather try out a youngster than to trade just to plug a whole.

Lol @ calling St-Denis soft

Analyzer 01-23-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCB (Post 58159677)
Lol @ calling St-Denis soft

He falls under the same soft as Weber, Kaberle, and Diaz. They don't/rarely are physical. We already have enough dman who use their stick to win battles than the body. If you're poke checking every time, then you're not hard to play against unless you're a master poke checker.

Prongo 01-23-2013 12:57 PM

Detroit will turn it around, you always do it seems if they struggle.

Now would Detroit be interested in Kimmo Timonen at the deadline if the Flyers are out of contention?

GordonGraham 01-23-2013 12:59 PM

why on earth would they want a guy like weber he cant crack the top 6( with pk missing) on a last place team

OCPenguin 01-23-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Prongo (Post 58159849)
Detroit will turn it around, you always do it seems if they struggle.

Now would Detroit be interested in Kimmo Timonen at the deadline if the Flyers are out of contention?

Detroit will be out before Philly IMO.

Timonen would fit the age requirement for Detroit though.

OCPenguin 01-23-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGraham (Post 58159923)
why on earth would they want a guy like weber he cant crack the top 6( with pk missing) on a last place team


Was thinking the same thing. He is worth a third rounder? Same with Kaberle? He is more like a fourth rounder now.

Blind Gardien 01-23-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGraham (Post 58159923)
why on earth would they want a guy like weber he cant crack the top 6( with pk missing) on a last place team

Why did they want Huskins who prior to this couldn't get a contract in the top-7 on *any* team... ? Etc. It's all situational. Weber isn't bad, he could play top-6 on some teams, perhaps, but it depends on the team's personnel. He's more of a puck-mover/PP shooter type, and if you've already got enough of those, you've got no room for Weber. If you lack one, he is ok at doing that in the NHL.

Strik_IX 01-23-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGraham (Post 58159923)
why on earth would they want a guy like weber he cant crack the top 6( with pk missing) on a last place team

Because the problem in MTL isn't puck moving defensemen, the amount of depth we have at that position is ridiculous.

Also, this is a new season, Habs won't finish last IMO, not like they've been sitting at the bottom of the league for years. In fact they've been in the playoffs more often than not in the past decade.

StarsFan74 01-23-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OCPenguin (Post 58159961)
Detroit will be out before Philly IMO.

Timonen would fit the age requirement for Detroit though.

But if Detroit is still in the mix, Timmonen would be a great fit....despite his age :p:.

One Man Rock Band 01-23-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Gardien (Post 58160101)
Why did they want Huskins who prior to this couldn't get a contract in the top-7 on *any* team... ? Etc. It's all situational. Weber isn't bad, he could play top-6 on some teams, perhaps, but it depends on the team's personnel. He's more of a puck-mover/PP shooter type, and if you've already got enough of those, you've got no room for Weber. If you lack one, he is ok at doing that in the NHL.

Honestly, I think he'd probably be as good as Kaberle in a bottom pairing role.

glenbuis 01-23-2013 05:00 PM

Montreal is in no hurry to rush anyone out yet. When/if pk returns and were still healthy we could find kaberle a new home. By the time the trade deadline comes around, injuries around the league will begin to mount and someone will come calling. Depending on our position at the time and his health, Markov could be moved as well. This scenario will be the same for our forwards as well. Where we stand at the deadline will also determine the fate of several forwards. Any players being traded will bring in more at the deadline as teams try to gear up for a cup run.

B A T M A N 01-23-2013 07:29 PM

Volchenkov for Franzen.

Martini* 01-23-2013 07:35 PM

Detroit should be looking at anything right now.:help:

dj33habs 01-23-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGraham (Post 58159923)
why on earth would they want a guy like weber he cant crack the top 6( with pk missing) on a last place team

Who looks like the last place team right now? Detroit's 21 years in a row in the playoffs is very much in jeopardy with the strength in the west. You are one more injury away from being desperate enough to take kaberle

Marlo Stanfield 01-23-2013 08:18 PM

If the Isles fall out of the playoff race before the deadline you could probably throw an offer to us for Mark Streit who's a UFA after this year

glenbuis 01-23-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dj33habs (Post 58182125)
Who looks like the last place team right now? Detroit's 21 years in a row in the playoffs is very much in jeopardy with the strength in the west. You are one more injury away from being desperate enough to take kaberle

Like if someone like White was hurt for 2-4 weeks.


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