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HabsProspectsExpert 01-25-2013 01:10 PM

Thomas Kaberle
 
Just wondering, if any team would be interested to pick this player for nothing in exchange? 2 years contract at 4,250M$, could help on PP, could have value at the trade deadline next year. If horrible; can be buyout at the end of this season.

Domino11 01-25-2013 01:25 PM

He as zero value unless mtl is willing to eat half is salary .. Even then I don't think he will catch much interest !! Probably more at the deadline u will find a dance partner but not now !! U need a team that as difficulty on the power play . I think kaberle will be find in a 5-6 dman but 1 pp I think this is we're he would be more efficient !

Blind Gardien 01-25-2013 01:47 PM

Real money is real, so the "out" of a $3M compliance buyout option may not be an acceptable risk for some teams. But if a team isn't too worried about that side of it, he's pretty low-risk on the ice. I don't see the Habs holding back any salary, though... the team is already looking at a tight budget for next year, and have the compliance buyout option of their own.

I'd rather keep him and use the compliance buyout on him than get a 3rd rounder, say, and hold onto $2M of his cap hit, for example. Habs are gonna need all of that cap space (/ can make better use of that extra cap space).

He seems to have slimmed down and can still move the puck and make passes. He hasn't avoided the corners so far the way he did last year either. I would think he's a reasonable bottom-pairing/PP player on many teams. Just that the Habs have those spots more than filled atm. And will likely need to free up his cap hit for next year. I don't think he's "awful" or anything, he can still play and make a minor contribution.

captainpaxil 01-25-2013 02:10 PM

once pronger goes to ltir i could see philly making a play for him. wed be able to take the full cap hit but theres barely even spare parts in the system let alone decent value

glenbuis 01-25-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by captainpaxil (Post 58321025)
once pronger goes to ltir i could see philly making a play for him. wed be able to take the full cap hit but theres barely even spare parts in the system let alone decent value

You wont need Kaberle because you will have Subban sooner than you expect.

cashman rules* 01-25-2013 03:38 PM

Back to toronto where they think he's a superstar!

JJTT 01-25-2013 05:34 PM

komisarek for kaberle

var 01-25-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jjtt (Post 58331635)
komisarek for kaberle

This. Make this happen.

Blind Gardien 01-25-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jjtt (Post 58331635)
komisarek for kaberle

Slight savings on the summer buyout. Therefore, if no other team offered me anything for Kaberle, I'd take this.

JohnnyB11 01-25-2013 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Gardien (Post 58332167)
Slight savings on the summer buyout. Therefore, if no other team offered me anything for Kaberle, I'd take this.

Komisarek coming back to Montreal would go over like a lead balloon with the fanbase. While you say you would do it, it would never happen.

Pi 01-25-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Gardien (Post 58332167)
Slight savings on the summer buyout. Therefore, if no other team offered me anything for Kaberle, I'd take this.

I don't think the Leafs do this IMO.

We've got Gardiner and Liles so Kaberle is now a bit redundant.

Komisarek has been pretty darn good in the 2 games the guy has got a chance to play under Carlyle.

2-0 with him, 0-2 without him :laugh:

I think he's still a buyout candidate, unless we can dump him for picks.

Halifaxhab* 01-25-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by captainpaxil (Post 58321025)
once pronger goes to ltir i could see philly making a play for him. wed be able to take the full cap hit but theres barely even spare parts in the system let alone decent value

it wouldn't take too much. any prospect that can play a physical game and be defensively responsible (a 4th liner or 7th dman equivalanet)

Blind Gardien 01-25-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyB11 (Post 58335565)
Komisarek coming back to Montreal would go over like a lead balloon with the fanbase. While you say you would do it, it would never happen.

It would happen (from the Habs' POV) if it was offered on June 14th, however. Only logical. But of course not right now, not today. I think both teams can dare to dream right up until the trade deadline passes of getting something slightly better than another buyout, though.

Dellstrom 01-25-2013 10:39 PM

He might fetch something from a team like the Flyers/defensively thin team at the deadline, but nothing until then.

captainpaxil 01-25-2013 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Halifaxhab (Post 58340137)
it wouldn't take too much. any prospect that can play a physical game and be defensively responsible (a 4th liner or 7th dman equivalanet)

i never thought id say this. blake kessell + jody shelly for kaberle?

McTank 01-26-2013 12:13 AM

Is he garbage defensively?

Habsrback 01-26-2013 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TheyAreGoodScaryGood (Post 58367161)
Is he garbage defensively?

As bad as it gets...

OCPenguin 01-26-2013 08:14 AM

He is at best worth a six round pick. Terrible defensively and isn't the puck mover or point producer he once was. Isn't he like 40 too boot?

Swarez 01-26-2013 08:17 AM

Does he have any skill left? He has to still be good on the PP.

Psycho Papa Joe 01-26-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by captainpaxil (Post 58365301)
i never thought id say this. blake kessell + jody shelly for kaberle?

Sure. You can even keep one if them or both.

ginovegas 01-26-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheyAreGoodScaryGood (Post 58367161)
Is he garbage defensively?

lets not get crazxy
he's hasn't been on the ice for an opponents goal yet
so he's not that terrible
give him the right D partner and he is fine

Milhouse40 01-26-2013 10:48 AM

If the habs could catch a 3rd or 4th round pick for him....would be good.
If habs eat half is salary.....a 2nd draft picks

Hatrick Marleau 01-26-2013 11:36 AM

Isn't it Tomas Kaberle not Thomas Kaberle?

Blind Gardien 01-26-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ginovegas (Post 58378637)
lets not get crazxy
he's hasn't been on the ice for an opponents goal yet
so he's not that terrible
give him the right D partner and he is fine

Yeah, don't pair him with a Campoli type, say. But he is "adequate" defensively... he soft-touched things a bit too much last season, but isn't doing it that bad this year. He is savvy enough to position himself and use his stick well enough. You couldn't say defense is a "strength" or anything. But so far this year he's not a liability. He knows how to move the puck out.

Jee 01-26-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatrick Marleau (Post 58380633)
Isn't it Tomas Kaberle not Thomas Kaberle?

Yes, Tomas.

I personally don't mind having him around. He's a vet who was once a top 15 d-man in the league and he's friend with Plekanec and Budaj.


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