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sparxx87 01-25-2013 05:54 PM

Pens-Flames
 
Lee Stempniak for 2nd '13

Good two-way player with a heavy shot and decent speed. Yeah, he's an incredibly streaky player, but when he's hot he's a good top 6 player.. He'll get his chances on Sid's wing.

The Pens need a RH shot in the top 6, and this bumps Tangradi off the top 2 lines where he has no business being. (At least not right now anyway)

The Flames get a top 60 pick in a deep draft. Feaster has done a good job of drafting since taking the reigns, hopefully they can get a player in what will likely be the 56-60 range.

Kunitz-Crosby-Stempniak
Dupuis-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Glass-Vitale-Adams


I believe Stempniak would be a great fit in Pittsburgh. He isn't an elite player, but he's a good complementary player with top 6 skills..

Discuss..

Ashasx 01-25-2013 05:54 PM

I'd do it. Flames have too many wingers.

TorstenFrings 01-25-2013 06:08 PM

It would be an improvement right now and the deal seems fair, so really all I have is some little hope that the Pens can find better, but would not lose my **** all over the internet, if it happened.

DropIt 01-25-2013 06:11 PM

I would be alright with it az well

chethejet 01-25-2013 06:12 PM

If the Pens can expand the parameters to include Martin I am all for it.

Ashasx 01-25-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chethejet (Post 58334045)
If the Pens can expand the parameters to include Martin I am all for it.

You'll be including your first then.

The Ultimate Warrior 01-25-2013 06:17 PM

I'd do it

sparxx87 01-25-2013 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kratzbuerste (Post 58333721)
It would be an improvement right now and the deal seems fair, so really all I have is some little hope that the Pens can find better, but would not lose my **** all over the internet, if it happened.

I agree, but there isn't many top end RW'ers available.. Perry or Iginla would be nice, but Malkin and Letang will need extensions; Letang will be in for a hefty raise..

Stempniak would be a good fit, and won't cost a top prospect or a high pick.. He's under performed for the most part, and if anything can keep him consistent it'll be 87 at centre.

He's a solid all around player, I think he'd fit the Penguins system very well.

rmartin65 01-25-2013 06:22 PM

I like it. I would prefer to give a 3rd, but I realize that might be a bit of a lowball.

Your lines are a little off though-

Dupuis-Crosby-Stempniak
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Glass/Vitale/Tangradi/Jeffery/Adams

Riptide 01-25-2013 06:41 PM

I think the Pens can find something better for a 2nd.

clefty 01-25-2013 06:48 PM

Stempniak does nothing for me.

domaug* 01-25-2013 06:51 PM

i'm not against that deal but i'd hope the Pens could find a better winger out there for a 2nd-round pick.

YMCMBYOLO 01-25-2013 07:18 PM

I'd do that kind of deal.

sparxx87 01-25-2013 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riptide (Post 58336467)
I think the Pens can find something better for a 2nd.

Quote:

Originally Posted by psupens (Post 58337553)
i'm not against that deal but i'd hope the Pens could find a better winger out there for a 2nd-round pick.

Who though? Anyone I can think of would cost significantly more then a second, or currently play for a playoff hopeful team who wouldn't be interested in prospects/picks..

PensBandwagonerNo272 01-25-2013 07:55 PM

I'd do it. I like Stempniak and think he's going to have a good season.

The Pens wouldn't do it though.

BigBenSF* 01-25-2013 08:05 PM

I'd probably do it. Makes guys like Kennedy more expendable. Would want Calgary to take some salary back though.

CGYPUKSUX 01-25-2013 08:13 PM

Done and done.

sparxx87 01-25-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PensBandwagonerNo272 (Post 58345197)
I'd do it. I like Stempniak and think he's going to have a good season.

The Pens wouldn't do it though.

Why? Worst thing that can happen is Stempniak is a good 3rd liner whose paid accordingly.. Best thing would be Crosby getting a RW who can score 20-25 on a good contract..

Tanner Glass is playing on the 3rd line tonight... Tangradi isn't ready for the NHL from what I've seen. This deal improves Pittsburgh's depth on the wing while potentially receiving a winger for Crosby... If Stempniak gets hot at the right time, this deal could pay off huge..

Every trade is a gamble. This one is worth that gamble for Pittsburgh in my opinion. That second round pick isn't helping win a cup any time soon.

OCPenguin 01-25-2013 09:28 PM

Stempy isn't worth a second rounder. He doesn't solve a problem for Pittsburgh, so pass.

Bennett Brauer 01-25-2013 09:56 PM

I've liked Stempniak's game and actually wanted the Penguins to acquire him when he was on the Phoenix Coyotes. A 2nd seems fair, Shero traded 2nd round picks for Gill and Leopold so it's not like a 2nd round pick gets you higher quality players.

Seems like a good trade to me.

Uemoda 01-25-2013 09:58 PM

The way we handle second-rounders, I'd do this in a heartbeat.

Good, fair proposal, OP. Solid.

Bennett Brauer 01-25-2013 10:20 PM

Upgrade over Tyler Kennedy costing $500,00 more, signed through 2014, can play on Malkin's LW, that moves players down to their rightful positions (Kennedy on the 3rd, Glass on the 4th).

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Stempniak-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Glass-Vitale-Adams

If that works, then in 2013-14...

Kunitz-Crosby-Bennett
Stempniak-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Dupuis
Glass-Vitale-___ (Jeffrey/Tangradi) or Adams if they choose to re-sign him.

OCPenguin 01-25-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eyes of Orpik (Post 58360723)
Upgrade over Tyler Kennedy costing $500,00 more, signed through 2014, can play on Malkin's LW, that moves players down to their rightful positions (Kennedy on the 3rd, Glass on the 4th).

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Stempniak-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Glass-Vitale-Adams

If that works, then in 2013-14...

Kunitz-Crosby-Bennett
Stempniak-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Dupuis
Glass-Vitale-___ (Jeffrey/Tangradi) or Adams if they choose to re-sign him.

Stempniak is a 12-goal a year scorer. How is that an upgrade? Sounds like you want to make a trade just for the sake of, instead of acquiring a potential difference maker, not a role player with little upside.

GetThePuckOut 01-25-2013 10:41 PM

I wouldn't trade Whirling Dervish for a 2nd rounder. Yeah he's streaky, but when he's on he's pretty awesome. I'd rather just keep him and give him the whip when need be.

TheHudlinator 01-25-2013 10:42 PM

Good deal for both sides.


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