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lboogie42* 01-26-2013 07:51 AM

More valuable to the future of the franchise: henrique or larsson?
 
Which youn player wil be more valuable to our franchise? Henrique or larsson? Opinions?

PensFan6687 01-26-2013 08:08 AM

Boucher and Merrill. hehe

Classic Devil 01-26-2013 08:16 AM

Larsson, of course. He's still got franchise defenseman written all over him. Henrique is at best a good top line center.

Capt Brycey Poo 01-26-2013 08:37 AM

I dont see the next Lidström in Larsson. I hope I am wrong, but Henrique has shown to be the next Elias, to-be-underrated-clutch-forward. Larsson can still be a bust.

Saugus 01-26-2013 09:32 AM

Larsson. We are building the defence of the future around him. If all goes right, he will be the Devils' #1 for a decade. And the identity of the club has always been with the defence.

AfroThunder396 01-26-2013 09:41 AM

I know Lidstrom is an inviting comparison to make, but I see Larsson as more of a Toby Enstrom guy, or Joni Pitkanen on steroids. A solid, reliable #1 with excellent offensive upside. I'd love to see him be Lidstrom, though.

Wingman77 01-26-2013 09:52 AM

Considering we have several forwards starting to age that will be leaving the lineup within the next 5 years and that we do not have a great pool of forward prospects and then looking at our pool of D prospects that still have to prove themselves, but have good looking potential, Henrique is more valuable to this organization

This is not to say Larsson isn't valuable, he is a big part of the future of this franchise, but the future looks better with the D than it does the O as of now

Henrique Iglesias 01-26-2013 10:29 AM

From a franchise that builds and prides itself on defense, I have to go with Larsson. Even though he's been a healthy scratch, he'll get his shot sooner than later.

Unknown Caller 01-26-2013 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AfroThunder396 (Post 58376181)
I know Lidstrom is an inviting comparison to make, but I see Larsson as more of a Toby Enstrom guy, or Joni Pitkanen on steroids. A solid, reliable #1 with excellent offensive upside. I'd love to see him be Lidstrom, though.

I don't really see the Enstrom comparison. Enstrom reminds me more of Rafalski than Larsson. Enstrom/Rafalski are smaller defenseman who can move the puck, quaterback a powerplay, and rely on the offensive side of their game. Larsson is a bigger defenseman who plays a great positional game with a calm demeanor. (Which is where the Lidstrom comparisons come from).

Mgd31 01-26-2013 10:33 AM

Don't see Larsson as dynamic as Enstrom per say.

BenedictGomez 01-26-2013 10:35 AM

Defensemen don't grow on trees, but I'm pretty sure there are forward trees.

sbresistor 01-26-2013 11:10 AM

I vote henrique. I don't know, something about 2 series clinching overtime goals as a rookie is not an accident

Saugus 01-26-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mgd31 (Post 58378127)
Don't see Larsson as dynamic as Enstrom per say.

No, but I expect Larsson to be the better two-way defenceman over his career. We don't need him to be an offensive powerhouse, we need him to be an all-round #1. He is well on his way to that.

apice3* 01-26-2013 01:12 PM

There are plenty of #1 centers in the league. In the Atlantic division, you can name 6. One for each team, plus two in Pitt.

There are not a lot of true #1 D-men in the league. In the Atlantic division, the top 3 are probably Letang, McDonagh, and Staal, and even those 3 aren't great in all situations.

tycobb 01-26-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by apice3 (Post 58385303)
There are plenty of #1 centers in the league. In the Atlantic division, you can name 6. One for each team, plus two in Pitt.

There are not a lot of true #1 D-men in the league. In the Atlantic division, the top 3 are probably Letang, McDonagh, and Staal, and even those 3 aren't great in all situations.

I would love Larsson to become as gifted with the puck as Letang. I am thinking Larsson is going to be steady offensively 40+ pts, but even better defensively.

Eggers 01-26-2013 02:06 PM

Has to be Larsson. Henrique could (probably won't) top out as a 70 point 2-way forward and still be less valuable than a true #1 defenseman.

Getzo5 01-26-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saugus (Post 58383033)
No, but I expect Larsson to be the better two-way defenceman over his career. We don't need him to be an offensive powerhouse, we need him to be an all-round #1. He is well on his way to that.

Less productive/physical Weber.

StvBroDan 01-26-2013 03:19 PM

Both

Oroku Saki* 01-26-2013 03:21 PM

Larsson quite easily. We have Zajac locked up and Josefson looking like a future number 2.

Saugus 01-26-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Getzo5 (Post 58388505)
Less productive/physical Weber.

He doesn't have Weber's shot either.

Oroku Saki* 01-26-2013 04:51 PM

I think Suter is a better comparison. Good at everything.

Just Win 01-26-2013 04:58 PM

There is only one possible answer.

Adam.

Thunderfest 01-26-2013 05:18 PM

The Larsson/Lidstrom comparison is like nails on a chalkboard to me. It's just fundamentally wrong.

I see a lot of Wade Redden in Larsson. Ottawa-era Redden, of course. I'm comparing playing style, not potential career arcs. Young 'uns who know him as a bad contract punchline might not remember that he was a very steady top-pairing D-man for the Senators. I'd be very pleased if he has a similar (but hopefully longer) peak.

Rhodes 81 01-26-2013 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mgd31 (Post 58378127)
Don't see Larsson as dynamic as Enstrom per say.

nope. enstrom is good offensively, excellent in transition, and a bit above average in his own zone. i think larsson will end up being excellent in his own zone, good transitionally, and a bit above average offensively. they'd make a fantastic pairing, actually.

larsson has all the tools to be a fantastic shutdown guy and minutes eater, but i don't see powerplay qb or 45 point d-man written all over him. i think those hopes are going to fall on merrill. he'll contribute offensively, but more in a 2nd pp unit and 20-30 points kind of way.

that said, i do think he's more valuable, to this franchise at least, than henrique.

Devils Dominion 01-26-2013 05:36 PM

I have not seen enough in Larsson yet to really feel we have a franchise type of player with him.

I wanted Hueberdeau to drop or for us to take Corey Murphy at the time. I hope Larsson proves me wrong.


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