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cmwang 01-26-2013 11:54 AM

Gulutzan/Jerrad Fired + New Coaching Search Discussion
 
I've put up with his terrible lines and use of morrow/robidas.

But how can you scratch Larsen?

MetalGodAOD 01-26-2013 11:55 AM

Not gonna happen, we're stuck with him.

Hull Fan 01-26-2013 12:39 PM

Fire Gulutzan
 
I'm officially done. Baffling, stupefying, irrational, bizarre coaching decisions seem to the hallmark of his tenure here in Dallas.

Larsen being scratched for Rome is only the latest.

If someone can explain these decisions to me I'd appreciate it.

Morrow is currently second of all forwards in PP TOI. He currently has a minute more of play than Jagr. 3 minutes more than Roy. 4 minutes more than Eriksson and yes approximately 5 minutes more than Ryder on the power play.

Do we really need another rehash of Robidas-Goligoski as a pairing?

Morrow-Fiddler-Nystrom getting more ice time than first Smith-Eakin-Garbutt then Smith-Wandell-Garbutt.

I love my team but he makes it so hard to root for them only to finish 9-14th again.

Hull Fan 01-26-2013 12:41 PM

pique, I was beat to it. Can you move my post/thread in here?

Thx.

txomisc 01-26-2013 12:43 PM

I think Gully was always a guy who is supposed to learn and grow into the job. I dont think he will be fired this season but I wouldnt be shocked to see him and GMJN on the way out after this year.

Sports 01-26-2013 12:50 PM

Mmm.
Lets hold off until after the game on this one.
I know what most of us think will happen, but lets wait and see.

cmwang 01-26-2013 01:02 PM

At least it sounds like he put Smith in the top six and not morrow. But it sounds like another forward is hurting, so there is still a chance he moves him up. We all know he wants to

Elysian 01-26-2013 01:05 PM

Scratching Larsen is the dumbest thing he could possibly do.

StarsFan74 01-26-2013 01:14 PM

As per Brandon Worley on DBD:

Larsen has not been good this season.

He’s getting the scratch not because of the penalties, but because he’s struggled with getting pushed off the puck and he’s not moving it well right now. Rome goes with Daley, he can provide more physical presence on 2nd pair and give Dillon and Benn a game to work together again — who may be a better pairing anyway.

Dirty Kari 01-26-2013 01:15 PM

Larsen's development is being ruined by the organization. He is a smart player that is more than willing to be physical with players despite his size. He gets the least amount of TOI and virtually zero PP itme. It is a joke.

cmwang 01-26-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsFan74 (Post 58385379)
As per Brandon Worley on DBD:

Larsen has not been good this season.

Hes getting the scratch not because of the penalties, but because hes struggled with getting pushed off the puck and hes not moving it well right now. Rome goes with Daley, he can provide more physical presence on 2nd pair and give Dillon and Benn a game to work together again who may be a better pairing anyway.

DBD also loves Robidas and Morrow. The entire defense has been struggling, but other than Daley, Larsen is the least of their problems.

Ambassador Of Fun 01-26-2013 01:21 PM

Yeah, to be fair, Larsen has looked like just a guy out there so far this season. He hasn't been worse than Robidas, but still hasn't inspired much confidence.

Hull Fan 01-26-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsFan74 (Post 58385379)
As per Brandon Worley on DBD:

Larsen has not been good this season.

Hes getting the scratch not because of the penalties, but because hes struggled with getting pushed off the puck and hes not moving it well right now. Rome goes with Daley, he can provide more physical presence on 2nd pair and give Dillon and Benn a game to work together again who may be a better pairing anyway.

I swear it's like Brandon just issued a press statement for the organization. Has Larsen been the best defenseman this year? No but again no one wants to point a finger at how terrible and ineffectual the pair of Robidas-Goligoski has been. If we want to make a point about poor play gets you benched why don't we start with the worst players.

txomisc 01-26-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsFan74 (Post 58385379)
As per Brandon Worley on DBD:

Larsen has not been good this season.

Hes getting the scratch not because of the penalties, but because hes struggled with getting pushed off the puck and hes not moving it well right now. Rome goes with Daley, he can provide more physical presence on 2nd pair and give Dillon and Benn a game to work together again who may be a better pairing anyway.

I seem to often disagree with Worleys hockey opinions and this is no exception.

txomisc 01-26-2013 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Kari (Post 58385431)
Larsen's development is being ruined by the organization. He is a smart player that is more than willing to be physical with players despite his size. He gets the least amount of TOI and virtually zero PP itme. It is a joke.

It is really worrying considering how guys like grossman, niskanen and fistrics never took the next step needed. Hell Goligoski has regressed. There may be something wrong with the way the organization coaches Dmen.

txomisc 01-26-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hull Fan (Post 58385793)
I swear it's like Brandon just issued a press statement for the organization. Has Larsen been the best defenseman this year? No but again no one wants to point a finger at how terrible and ineffectual the pair of Robidas-Goligoski has been. If we want to make a point about poor play gets you benched why don't we start with the worst players.

I'd say Larsen has been the Stars 2nd best dman this year behind Daley. Its not saying alot because theyve been pretty mediocre, but he has clearly been better than the others, imo.

Stars99Lobo37 01-26-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsFan74 (Post 58385379)
As per Brandon Worley on DBD:

Larsen has not been good this season.

Hes getting the scratch not because of the penalties, but because hes struggled with getting pushed off the puck and hes not moving it well right now. Rome goes with Daley, he can provide more physical presence on 2nd pair and give Dillon and Benn a game to work together again who may be a better pairing anyway.

DBD gets worse by the day. :shakehead:shakehead

piqued 01-26-2013 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsFan74 (Post 58385379)
As per Brandon Worley on DBD:

Larsen has not been good this season.

He’s getting the scratch not because of the penalties, but because he’s struggled with getting pushed off the puck and he’s not moving it well right now. Rome goes with Daley, he can provide more physical presence on 2nd pair and give Dillon and Benn a game to work together again — who may be a better pairing anyway.

Well if Brandon Worley agrees you know it must be wrong. :laugh:

Gulutzan isn't the coach to lead this team. He'll probably be gone in the offseason along with Nieuwendyk when Gaglardi installs his own front office.

StarsFan74 01-26-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piqued (Post 58386445)
Well if Brandon Worley agrees you know it must be wrong. :laugh:

Gulutzan isn't the coach to lead this team. He'll probably be gone in offseason along with Nieuwendyk.

I don't think Worley said Gulutzan is the coach to lead the team. He only commented on this solitary decision by Gulutzan, which he happens to agree with, and even a bad coach can be right about a thing or two.

FTR, I neither agree nor disagree with Worley on Larsen. I merely posted an opinion from a group of people who, IMO, seem to watch the game more closely than I do.

BTW, just curious but why does Nieuwendyk leave this off-season along with Gulutzan? I see no reason for Gaglardi to fire him.

piqued 01-26-2013 01:51 PM

Owners don't typically tie their legacy to people they didn't hire.

And a GM who has never made the playoffs (extenuating circumstances or not) isn't exactly in an entrenched position.

Elysian 01-26-2013 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stars99Lobo37 (Post 58386409)
DBD gets worse by the day. :shakehead:shakehead

I still look at it, mostly for the daily links since it's links to other peoples work, but I have a hard time taking a site that has such problems with grammar and spelling seriously. Their 'articles' are always littered with errors. I understand they don't get paid but come on, sometimes it's so blatant it's irritating.

StarsFan74 01-26-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piqued (Post 58387287)
Owners don't typically tie their legacy to people they didn't hire.

And a GM who has never made the playoffs (extenuating circumstances or not) isn't exactly in an entrenched position.

You may have a point, but Nieuwendyk got the job done on Jamie Benn and that, in Gaglardi's eyes, has to count for something.

That said, if he indeed is gone based on his inability to make the playoffs (I agree that the ambivalent nature of the team's direction under JN irked me a lot), then we should be somewhat worried for it may be Gainey who takes charge.

Stars99Lobo37 01-26-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsFan74 (Post 58387693)
You may have a point, but Nieuwendyk got the job done on Jamie Benn and that, in Gaglardi's eyes, has to count for something.

That said, if he indeed is gone based on his inability to make the playoffs (I agree that the ambivalent nature of the team's direction under JN irked me a lot), then we should be somewhat worried for it may be Gainey who takes charge.

I think Recchi has a better chance at taking over that position than Gainey does.

cmwang 01-26-2013 02:06 PM

The problem with GM Joe is he has made some good moves, but a even larger number of idiotic moves.

My biggest problem is with the Neal trade. I was not against trading Neal, but if you do you better get a top pairing d-man back. I'm rooting for goligoski but I'm not sure hes even a number 4 on a decent team. And what made it all worse was all the other GMs coming out after saying why didn't we hear Neal was available. If he just shopped Neal a bit I bet he would have received a top pairing dman (someone like bogosian)

Hull Fan 01-26-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stars99Lobo37 (Post 58387827)
I think Recchi has a better chance at taking over that position than Gainey does.

I'd prefer Recchi or someone outside of this organization. The plethora of former players doesn't bring a whole lot of new ideas to the table and it appears this organization could use some new ideas.


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