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Rumcajs 01-26-2013 05:54 PM

We need Stanley Cup Winners
 
So I was thinking the other day..Every cup winning team has had previous cup winners on their rosters. I know we already have Gonchar but its yet to be determined if he will stay beyond this year.

Who could we add in the realm of a John Madden, Rob Scuderi, Mark Rechhi etc

ReginKarlssonLehner 01-26-2013 05:59 PM

Add a top 4 defender then add a bottom 6 Stanley Cup winner for all I care.

18Hossa 01-26-2013 06:02 PM

Does a Calder Cup winner count?

General Granny* 01-26-2013 06:02 PM

Ray Whitney to that top 4 this summer.

Benjamin 01-26-2013 06:06 PM

Be patient and we can have a whole bunch of them next season. :sarcasm:

Beville 01-26-2013 07:08 PM

I disagree personally...

Just because you have won doesn't mean squat unless you're a quality player...

You're really saying we should get someone like, oh I dunno... Davis Drewiskie from the Kings? He's a cup winner after playing 9 games last season...


Edit: however I'd LOVE Scuderi...

FolignoQuantumLeap 01-26-2013 07:13 PM

We need to keep expectations realistic.

Berserker* 01-26-2013 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rumcajs (Post 58402579)
So I was thinking the other day..Every cup winning team has had previous cup winners on their rosters. I know we already have Gonchar but its yet to be determined if he will stay beyond this year.

Who could we add in the realm of a John Madden, Rob Scuderi, Mark Rechhi etc

We aren't winning a cup until guys like Silfverberg, Stone, Zibanejad, Lehner and many other prospects are full time NHL players.

t that point it might be worthwhile to add a veteran or two with Cup experience.

4thlinescrub 01-26-2013 10:12 PM

What vets with cup experience did LA have last year ?

18Hossa 01-26-2013 10:13 PM

Guys, you would never believe this but every cup winning team has at least 20 cup winners on it :amazed:

dzingelalltheway 01-26-2013 10:14 PM

I'd rather add one Cup-less Daniel Alfredsson than ten two-Cup-winning Shawn Thorntons. Cup wins mean exactly nothing in judging a player -- that's a team award.

MarcoRVD 01-26-2013 10:20 PM

Absolutely, winning a cup means nothing. If you suck as a player, you'll still suck whether your name is on the cup or not. And viceversa, of course. We need quality players, and I think this team has some. A couple of good additions, maybe guys coming up from the minors and we'll be a force to be reckoned with.

Berserker* 01-27-2013 12:34 AM

I think realistically speaking the Senators will be primed for a cup run in either the 2015-2016 or 2016-2017 season. By that point a fair amount of prospects will have either established themselves as NHL players or proven that they are fringe NHL players/ AHLers or simply long shot late bloomers. So depending on whether management feels 2015 or 2016 is the best year for a cup run they may sign a veteran free agent(s). Certainly the Senators will be interested with a free agent who has won a Stanley Cup, but they may settle on signing a player(s) that is well suited for the playoffs. The following are a few players who I think they may target with their age adjusted for when they become a free agent. (Note: for the most part I have tried to exclude players that I believe have a high probability of signing with their current organization.)

2013 Off-Season

I doubt that the Senators feel that they are ready for a cup run in 2014 so they may want to sign a young/ mid aged player to be part of the eventual core for the cup run. I could see Murray having a very strong interest in signing Corey Perry and a bit of a milder interest in signing Ryan Getzlaf. Both Perry and Getzlaf with be 28 this year. I could also see Murray having a mild interest in signing David Clarkson who is turning 29.

I might get flamed for this, but I could also see the Senators signing Pierre Cedric Labrie as a utility player. He fills the role of enforcer/agitator and if (now that is a big if) he can translate what he can do in the AHL to the NHL, he could be a valuable 4th liner.

2014 Off-Season

If the Senators believe that 2015 is their year for a cup run then they may have interest in the following players:

LW Patrick Marleau 36
LW Mike Cammalleri 32
LW Chris Kuntiz 35
D Kris Letang 27 (Almost certainly he re-sings though, but if not by some chance then the Sens could be very interested)
C/W Steve Ott 32
D Matt Greene 31
RW Steve Downie 27
LW Daniel Carcillo 29

2015 Off-Season

If the Senators believe that 2016 is their year for a cup run then they may have interest in the following players:

LW Ryan Malone 36
C Mike Fisher 35 (if he doesn't re-sing with Nashville I could see Ottawa being interested in brining him back to end his career here)
D Johnny Boychuck 32
C Jarret Stoll 33
D Barret Jackman 34
LW Nick Foligno 28 (I could see the Sens being interested in potentially bringing him back)
LW Curtiss Glencross 33


Now this is entirely speculative on my part; these players may or may not become free agents at the end of their respective contracts and the Senators may or may not be interested in signing some or any of them. On top of that our prospects may flourish in terms of their development and the Senators may not have much of a need to add many free agents at all over the next few years. I may have also missed a few free agents that some other posters may feel should be added to this list, I welcome them to add any players that thy feel I have missed.

Anyways this is just my opinion so take it as that.

MainDotC 01-27-2013 12:35 AM

Why are you beginning your expression with "so"? Were we already in the middle of a conversation?

saskriders 01-27-2013 12:47 AM

Paul Maclean

Rumcajs 01-27-2013 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaindotC (Post 58436897)
Why are you beginning your expression with "so"? Were we already in the middle of a conversation?

To quote Sigismund.

I am the Roman Emperor and am above grammar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by topshelfie (Post 58428215)
What vets with cup experience did LA have last year ?

Rob Scuderi?

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyalltheway (Post 58428343)
I'd rather add one Cup-less Daniel Alfredsson than ten two-Cup-winning Shawn Thorntons. Cup wins mean exactly nothing in judging a player -- that's a team award.

So your comparing Alfie with Thornton? Don't beat the straw man too much. Winners win again and bring in a better mentality. That why the Calder Cup was important for our franchise.

ErikNorrisson 01-27-2013 01:05 AM

Corey Perry

Benjamin 01-27-2013 01:15 AM

Brett Lebda.

FolignoQuantumLeap 01-27-2013 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saskriders (Post 58437347)
Paul Maclean

He never won the Cup.

ReginKarlssonLehner 01-27-2013 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FolignoQuantumLeap (Post 58438577)
He never won the Cup.

Pretty sure he meant as Assistant coach. MacLean knows what is needed to do as a coach to win the cup.

FolignoQuantumLeap 01-27-2013 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReginKarlssonLehner (Post 58439225)
Pretty sure he meant as Assistant coach. MacLean knows what is needed to do as a coach to win the cup.

Well in that case, lets just get Gretzky in there as an assistant.

Ice-Tray 01-27-2013 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FolignoQuantumLeap (Post 58439287)
Well in that case, lets just get Gretzky in there as an assistant.

Not a good come back...

zeddyp 01-27-2013 06:03 AM

the "having cup winners on the team" isnt exaclty the biggest deal...their purpose is to mentally prepare the kids (and in some cases vetrans) who dont know what it takes to get there (the finals)...a cup winner and a stanley cup finalist (which we have) have exactly the same amount of "wisdom" to give.

source 01-27-2013 07:30 AM

Just get a top 4 ****ing defenseman and then another one to replace Gonchar.

Grado 01-27-2013 08:57 AM

sir may we plz have a top 4 d


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