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MalkinVP71 01-28-2013 08:49 AM

Umberger
 
What would it take to get him in a Penguins uni?

CBJWennberg41 01-28-2013 09:03 AM

We need wingers too. So probably not a fit here.

Stretch Factor 01-28-2013 09:28 AM

Since Pittsburgh is one of the few places I could see RJ waiving his NTC for, I'd be interested to see what they'd give us.

We got him for a first round pick, is he still worth that?

Samkow 01-28-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Stretch Factor (Post 58519891)
We got him for a first round pick, is he still worth that?

Hell no. Not even a likely 25th-30th pick from Pittsburgh.

Kev22 01-28-2013 09:33 AM

I really think RJ is on thin ice here. His performance between last season and so far this season is not good enough. He is not top six material at this point. He is more suited to a checking line role. If the Penguins are willing to give up a young player with top six potential, I think the Jackets would have to listen.

Fro 01-28-2013 09:35 AM

i'll take a 2nd and that "bum" (as pitt fans like to refer to him as) Paul Martin as a cap dump ;)

Double-Shift Lassť 01-28-2013 09:39 AM

The obvious choice is Eric Tangradi. However, he is on a dangerously Brassard-ish career arc. (There are significant differences in how those two players have produced, but given their respective draft positions and the fact that there is a "Is Tangradi a Bust?" thread on the Pens' forum...)

But a 24-year-old wing who's 6'4" (and full of muscles) around 220 with top-6 potential but who hasn't found a fit in his current location would certainly be a discussion point.

pete goegan 01-28-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Double-Shift Lassť (Post 58520337)
The obvious choice is Eric Tangradi. However, he is on a dangerously Brassard-ish career arc. (There are significant differences in how those two players have produced, but given their respective draft positions and the fact that there is a "Is Tangradi a Bust?" thread on the Pens' forum...)

But a 24-year-old wing who's 6'4" (and full of muscles) around 220 with top-6 potential but who hasn't found a fit in his current location would certainly be a discussion point.

I agree, but would the Pens? Even up or something added? From whom?

Double-Shift Lassť 01-28-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pete goegan (Post 58521237)
I agree, but would the Pens? Even up or something added? From whom?

No clue. Could make the case in any direction.

CBJFan19* 01-28-2013 10:27 AM

i would ask for their first, its not like its going to be a top 25 anyways, very likley bottom 5 which means chances are they wont get someone to play for them for 2-4 years at that pick while Umberger could be a 40-50 point guy maybe better for the next 2-4 with Crosby, Malkin, Neal, etc

Ludicrous Speed 01-28-2013 10:29 AM

Umberger has looked horrible. Probably wouldn't take much for me to want to deal him if we didn't have a shortage of wingers.

Arch City Zach 01-28-2013 11:44 AM

I've been a big Tangradi fan for a long time, I could see that deal working with maybe a 3rd coming back to us also.

Cyclones Rock 01-28-2013 11:44 AM

That anyone would think that the Penguins would be interested in RJ Umberger is very, very, very funny:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Having said that, he will score at least 2 goals tonite.

Mayor Bee 01-28-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Double-Shift Lassť (Post 58520337)
The obvious choice is Eric Tangradi. However, he is on a dangerously Brassard-ish career arc. (There are significant differences in how those two players have produced, but given their respective draft positions and the fact that there is a "Is Tangradi a Bust?" thread on the Pens' forum...)

But a 24-year-old wing who's 6'4" (and full of muscles) around 220 with top-6 potential but who hasn't found a fit in his current location would certainly be a discussion point.

What separates Tangardi from someone like Colton Gillies? Big-bodied winger with a physical edge, and minimal production at the NHL level.

IHeartZherdev* 01-28-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MalkinVP71 (Post 58518555)
What would it take to get him in a Penguins uni?

a couple local golf courses and a guarantee he doesn't have to play in the spring

blahblah 01-28-2013 12:13 PM

Is it just me or are the visiting posters not actually making proposals? They are asking us to make proposals. Pretty darn lazy.

I doubt they are looking at RJ, so I'm really not going to invest any time in it.

Tangradi doesn't do a whole lot for me.

1857 Howitzer 01-28-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blahblah (Post 58528293)
Is it just me or are the visiting posters not actually making proposals? They are asking us to make proposals.

I doubt they are looking at RJ, so I'm really not going to invest any time in it.

Tangradi doesn't do a whole lot for me.

I find that's best for all of these type of threads.

leesmith 01-28-2013 12:16 PM

I might be tempted for the Pens first or a guy like Brooks Orpik. Otherwise, I don't see how this makes us better.

rockinghockey 01-28-2013 12:17 PM

3 more years after this one at 4.5mil cash per, I am sure ownership and management would take a 3rd and Tang just to be happy to get rid of the money.

blahblah 01-28-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 1857 Howitzer (Post 58528383)
I find that's best for all of these type of threads.

Yeah, it's a total waste of time. It's not like there is even a rumor that the Pens are interested in RJ or that the Jackets are shopping RJ.

My recommendation is that the OP come back when there is a hint that this is beyond total fiction.

EspenK 01-28-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by leesmith (Post 58528457)
I might be tempted for the Pens first or a guy like Brooks Orpik. Otherwise, I don't see how this makes us better.

Addition by subtraction? I can't bear the thought of Umberger for 4 more years after this one. I'd dump him for whatever we could get and use his $ (plus some) to try and lure Perry here during FA.

Of course I don't see the Pens wanting him.

leesmith 01-28-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rockinghockey (Post 58528517)
3 more years after this one at 4.5mil cash per, I am sure ownership and management would take a 3rd and Tang just to be happy to get rid of the money.

Not sure I agree, but this is just another example of Scott Howson's mangling of this franchise's salary cap. We'd be better off to have an entire squad of RFAs than to overpay guys like Brassard, Umberger, Commodore, Huselius, etc. etc. You overpay for IMPACT players, not role players.

EDM 01-28-2013 01:27 PM

I suspect that RJ would find his "lost step" if he was suddenly added to the Pens roster. I am not a big RJ fan anymore. have not been for a couple of years. But being on aCup contender would, I suspect, light a fire in his gut.

Nanabijou 01-28-2013 01:51 PM

I know this is a "what if" thread, but i don't see how the pens fit RJ into their salary structure without at least Martin coming back. One would think that they should be looking for a young sniper to ride shotgun with Sid, rather than someone like Umberger.

GrimReeper 01-28-2013 01:52 PM

I look away and Umberger has become the punching bag. I actually thought he played well the last two games.


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