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Guerzy 01-28-2013 02:58 PM

Jets - Free Agents, Trades, Rumors, Speculation - 2012-13 (Part XI)
 
Continue here.

Old thread (Part 10) can be found here.

DespoticNewt 01-28-2013 03:00 PM

Quick recap:

Matt Duchene
PK Subban
ROR

And go.

buggs 01-28-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy Longlegs View Post
I would NOT do that trade! But I'd do it in a second for Matt Duchene.
Should have had a pool on when that would appear. :nod:

And FWIW I wouldn't do the trade (Trouba+Burmi) for ROR or Matty.

WJG 01-28-2013 03:19 PM

Grant Clitsome for Cam Barker?

I don't actually want Barker, but it'd be nice to have the 3rd (Barker), 4th (Ladd), 5th (Wheeler) and 6th (Montoya) overall picks from the 2004 draft all on our team.

truck 01-28-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WJG (Post 58538735)
Grant Clitsome for Cam Barker?

I don't actually want Barker, but it'd be nice to have the 3rd (Barker), 4th (Ladd), 5th (Wheeler) and 6th (Montoya) overall picks from the 2004 draft all on our team.

I wouldn't mind number 1 and 2 as well.

Huffer 01-28-2013 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggs (Post 58538599)
Should have had a pool on when that would appear. :nod:

And FWIW I wouldn't do the trade (Trouba+Burmi) for ROR or Matty.

Neither would I. Burmi is not far off of ROR. Whatever the difference is, it's not Trouba.

Bob E 01-28-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truck (Post 58539337)
I wouldn't mind number 1 and 2 as well.

Well, #2 for sure.

Bob E 01-28-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huffer (Post 58540741)
Neither would I. Burmi is not far off of ROR. Whatever the difference is, it's not Trouba.

Yup. Don't see Trouba being part of any deal.

ROR is a nice player, but so is young Burmi. I'd like to see what we have in Burmi in another year or two, before we consider moving him for a 'slight upgrade' which will cost us a bit more in salary.

sully1410 01-28-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob E (Post 58547925)
Yup. Don't see Trouba being part of any deal.

ROR is a nice player, but so is young Burmi. I'd like to see what we have in Burmi in another year or two, before we consider moving him for a 'slight upgrade' which will cost us a bit more in salary.

Exactly this. Burmi is a great player and I'm pretty sure we would regret trading him.

sully1410 01-28-2013 06:39 PM

No Subban.

JustBeCool 01-28-2013 06:40 PM

subban signs just in time to play jets? what a kawinky dink....

King Woodballs 01-28-2013 06:41 PM

Good deal for the habs
not even 3 per

BrimStone64 02-01-2013 11:03 PM

Would Jets trade Antopov? What's his trade value?

broinwhyteridge 02-01-2013 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mats86 (Post 58871907)
Would Jets trade Antopov? What's his trade value?

Depends on where he goes. Maybe a 3rd or 2nd round pick.

Sweech 02-01-2013 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broinwhyteridge (Post 58873405)
Depends on where he goes. Maybe a 3rd or 2nd round pick.

I think he's easily worth a second based on defensive value alone.

If Dominic Moore can get you a 2nd every year I think Antropov can, plus a little extra.

surixon 02-01-2013 11:49 PM

After Pav's last couple of games I'm thinking it might be a good idea to inquire about Bernier. Given the kings need some defenseman would a deal based around one of Redmond or Postma and a mid round pick work?

DespoticNewt 02-02-2013 12:15 AM

A)Pavs played a back to back, which is hard on anyone, nevermind a goalie.
B) He didn't receive a lot of help out there, but he hasn't been stellar.
C)Bernier isn't a tried and true starter yet. I would rather have him for a backup so he and Pavs can split starts, a'la Vancouver and St. Louis.

Sweech 02-02-2013 12:21 AM

I have no idea why people think Bernier is all that good.

A) I'll admit some prejudice, I'm not at all a fan of shorter (anything under 6') goaltenders.
B) His numbers really aren't all that fantastic.
C) Hasn't really played enough. Even as a backup he gets very few games and it's really hard to tell what he can bring.

I wouldn't at all be comfortable in giving up any decent assets to get him.

King Woodballs 02-02-2013 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweech (Post 58877787)
I have no idea why people think Bernier is all that good.

A) I'll admit some prejudice, I'm not at all a fan of shorter (anything under 6') goaltenders.
B) His numbers really aren't all that fantastic.
C) Hasn't really played enough. Even as a backup he gets very few games and it's really hard to tell what he can bring.

I wouldn't at all be comfortable in giving up any decent assets to get him.

I am wishy washy on him.

He did really well in the ahl last year I think?
Didnt have the best sv % and gaa?

But how well that translates to the nhl remains to be seen.

He has the potential to be good, but so did steve mason.

Huffer 02-02-2013 08:37 AM

Before the avalanche of goalie proposals, can the people who want to trade more assets for another goalie explain what we'll do with Pavelec's 3.9 million dollars for 4 more years?

Sit it on the bench? That's a terrible use of cap space.
Trade him? If he's bad enough that we need to trade him, who's taking him?
Buy him out? Does that seem like a TNSE move?

broinwhyteridge 02-02-2013 08:53 AM

Wholesale changes are years away. There is no incentive.

STHs are locked in for another 2 - 3 years. There will be a >95% renewal rate. Small inroads on the wait list will take place, but nothing major.

Will build up through decent draft position for next 3 - 5 years.

Gump Hasek 02-02-2013 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broinwhyteridge (Post 58884779)
Wholesale changes are years away. There is no incentive.

There will be no wholesale changes but significant change is actually most likely soon pending. The Jets have a significant number of UFA contracts that expire at the end of this season, and a glance at the list implies that few of them are players that the team needs to bring back...

http://capgeek.com/jets
Change is indeed coming.

broinwhyteridge 02-02-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gump Hasek (Post 58885555)
There will be no wholesale changes but significant change is actually most likely soon pending. The Jets have a significant number of UFA contracts that expire at the end of this season, and a glance at the list implies that few of them are players that the team needs to bring back...

http://capgeek.com/jets
Change is indeed coming.

You are quite right Gump. I was speaking more in terms of the stated approach of building through the draft. That doesn't happen overnight.

Stej 02-02-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gump Hasek (Post 58885555)
There will be no wholesale changes but significant change is actually most likely soon pending. The Jets have a significant number of UFA contracts that expire at the end of this season, and a glance at the list implies that few of them are players that the team needs to bring back...

http://capgeek.com/jets
Change is indeed coming.

Good point. As painful as the last 3 games have been, we can at least be excited about the trade deadline and offseason if the poor play continues. As you say, LOTS of expiring contracts and a good stockpile of draft picks that can be added to at the deadline.

Hopefully they turn it around but it will be exciting either way (to me anyway - I love the GM side of the game).

NjDevsRR 02-02-2013 11:05 AM

What will it take for us to have our Ponikarovsky back. :)


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