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Todds Chiropractory 01-29-2013 12:21 AM

3 way deal at Deadline: Schneider+ for Perry: Call to Schneider Interested Fan Bases.
 
Alright so Luongo is currently providing the best goaltending for the Canucks thus far this season, so this thread was inevitable, and if you don't like it you don't have to post.

That being said the Canucks are not going to have a year with a better chance to win a cup than this year. I'm not necessarily saying their chances will instantly diminish after this year, but the Sedins aren't getting any younger, and now is this time to make a push.

The reason the Canucks have failed in their past two playoff series (LA and Boston) is a severe lack of secondary scoring. This is why I propose they make a significant pitch for Perry this deadline. Now correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that Anaheims greatest need is a young 2nd line center with great upside, and unfortunately the Canucks do not have one of these to offer up, but I believe they would still be willing to move significant assets to acquire Perry as a rental for this years playoffs.

Now this is my call to other fan bases. I'm not going to pretend like I know how much you value your players, and honestly I don't know who would be interested in acquiring Schneider. So what young future assets would you be willing to give up for Schneider for the Canucks to in turn flip to Anaheim along with additional prospects.

Now I believe that Nicklas Jensen could be a significant piece of this trade to go to Anaheim. And would be a prospect that could step in and start to fill the void that Perry leaves as soon as next year (assuming he doesn't just come back and re-sign in the offseason.) And please don't instantly spout out with "Any trade to Anaheim starts with Zack Kassian". Once young players start to prove themselves in the NHL they come off the table in rental deals, it just doesn't happen especially when Kassian was targeted and acquired just last season and is currently filling a significant need. That being said Jensen is looking to be a great prospect and should not be overlooked.

To wrap up Schneider does not have a NTC he can go anywhere, whoever is willing to give up the right assets could acquire him. Anaheim what would you be targeting in a potential Perry deadline deal? I know its not a happy topic to be discussing moving a star player but it very well could be a reality, so we may as well have the discussion. And I expect Canucks fans to be opposed to moving both Schneider and Jensen for a potential rental player, but you gotta make a push for the cup while you have a chance, and if a player like Perry became available it would give the Canucks a 2nd line of Booth-Kesler-Perry and that should finally be the much needed secondary scoring needed to give this team a legitimate shot at their first cup.

Ok HF ill turn it over to you from here, do your worst.

Vankiller Whale 01-29-2013 12:28 AM

To Vancouver: Perry, Neuvirth
To Washington: Schneider, Gaunce
To Anaheim: Johansson, WAS 1st

DKQ 01-29-2013 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale (Post 58575929)
To Vancouver: Perry, Neuvirth
To Washington: Schneider, Gaunce
To Anaheim: Johansson, WAS 1st

I think Vancouver needs to give up more and Anaheim needs to receive more. Washington is also giving up a bit too much IMO


My stab at it:

Toronto: Corey Schneider
Vancouver: Corey Perry + Ben Scrivens + Korbinian Holzer
Anaheim: Nicklas Jensen + Chris Tanev + James Van Riemsdyk

Gustav Nyquist 01-29-2013 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale (Post 58575929)
To Vancouver: Perry, Neuvirth
To Washington: Schneider, Gaunce
To Anaheim: Johansson, WAS 1st

Oh boy. :laugh:

Sean Garrity 01-29-2013 12:35 AM

Ducks have no need for Schneider. (insert Hiller letting up 5 goals against Vancouver in his last game)

Aceonfire 01-29-2013 12:36 AM

Perry and Getzlaf hate the Canucks. They didn't even want to play with Burrows at the WC.

I seriously doubt he would sign there.

Phion Keneuf 01-29-2013 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DropkickQuinn (Post 58576131)
I think Vancouver needs to give up more and Anaheim needs to receive more. Washington is also giving up a bit too much IMO


Edit: Maybe...

Toronto: Corey Schneider + Van 3rd
Vancouver: Corey Perry + Ben Scrivens
Anaheim: Nicklas Jensen + Chris Tanev + James Van Riemsdyk

JVR is untouchable.

He's exactly what we need. Sky high potential as wel

marty111 01-29-2013 12:37 AM

:laugh:

This was quick... although I recall you guys saying a 5 game window doesn't change anyone's mind? I kid... Lu looks sharp tonight though!

I don't know, Jake Gardiner + prospect for Schneider with Gardiner swapped to another team for something Vancouver needs.

To Vancouver: F Wayne Simmonds, F Matt Read, TOR 3RD.
To Toronto: G Cory Schneider, VAN 4TH.
To Philadelphia: D Jake Gardiner, D Matt Finn.

DuckEatinShark 01-29-2013 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale (Post 58575929)
To Vancouver: Perry, Neuvirth
To Washington: Schneider, Gaunce
To Anaheim: Johansson, WAS 1st

So Neuvy, Johanson and a 1st for Schneider and Gaunce? I doubt Washington does that. They'd rather keep riding Neuvirth.

Too much to Van.

marty111 01-29-2013 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 58576463)
JVR is untouchable.

He's exactly what we need. Sky high potential as wel

I agree. I don't see trading him.

DKQ 01-29-2013 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 58576463)
JVR is untouchable.

He's exactly what we need. Sky high potential as wel

I agree that I dont see Toronto trading him, but I think the Leafs are in much more need of a goalie than they are a big body in their middle six

Phion Keneuf 01-29-2013 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DropkickQuinn (Post 58576799)
I agree that I dont see Toronto trading him, but I think the Leafs are in much more need of a goalie than they are a big body in their middle six

True. I'm not going to argue with that lol

We just acquired JVR though, and he's been one of, if not our best forward so far.

Vankiller Whale 01-29-2013 12:59 AM

Revised...

To Vancouver: Perry, Neuvirth
To Washington: Schneider
To Anaheim: Johansson, Gaunce, WAS 2nd

Something along thess lines makes sense to me...

DKQ 01-29-2013 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale (Post 58577833)
Revised...

To Vancouver: Perry, Neuvirth
To Washington: Schneider
To Anaheim: Johansson, Gaunce, WAS 2nd

Something along thess lines makes sense to me...

Perry+Neuvirth is worth more than just Schneider+Gaunce. A fair bit more.

SugarSherm 01-29-2013 01:40 AM

Ducks have no need for a goalie esp. with Gibson in the pipeline.

DKQ 01-29-2013 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Garrity (Post 58576373)
Ducks have no need for Schneider. (insert Hiller letting up 5 goals against Vancouver in his last game)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldiermedic (Post 58580691)
Ducks have no need for a goalie esp. with Gibson in the pipeline.

Do people actually read the OP and thread before they post in it?

JuniorNelson 01-29-2013 01:49 AM

Canucks and ducks are blood enemies. They aren't doing any trades together. Getzlaf should feel welcomed by Vancouver fans who embraced Messier and Sundin. Bald Captains go over big, here!

Sean Garrity 01-29-2013 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DropkickQuinn (Post 58580849)
Do people actually read the OP and thread before they post in it?

Not when it is an essay.

Vankiller Whale 01-29-2013 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DropkickQuinn (Post 58578371)
Perry+Neuvirth is worth more than just Schneider+Gaunce. A fair bit more.

Perry's an upcoming UFA. I don't think he's worth a young stud player + recent 1st round pick ++.

StringerBell 01-29-2013 02:02 AM

Hell no. Perry won't re-sign with us and Schneider is worth waaay more than a rental, as good as Perry is. I also strongly doubt he would fit with our dressing room. There doesn't seem to be a lot of love lost between him and the Canucks.

DKQ 01-29-2013 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale (Post 58581591)
Perry's an upcoming UFA. I don't think he's worth a young stud player + recent 1st round pick ++.

You forget the Neuvirth part of the package, which is quite substantial. The value seperating Schneider and Neuvirth, especially at Neuvirth's cap hit, isn't much more than a 1st rounder (Gaunce)

Vankiller Whale 01-29-2013 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DropkickQuinn (Post 58582283)
You forget the Neuvirth part of the package, which is quite substantial. The value seperating Schneider and Neuvirth, especially at Neuvirth's cap hit, isn't much more than a 1st rounder (Gaunce)

Neuvirth was more of a toss-in. I wouldn't mind dropping him and trying to get a back-up elsewhere.(or maybe Eddie Lack will be back from his injury)

So:

Vancouver: Perry
Washington: Schneider, Van 3rd
Anaheim: Johansson, Gaunce, WAS 1st(assuming it's a late one)

DKQ 01-29-2013 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale (Post 58582555)
Neuvirth was more of a toss-in. I wouldn't mind dropping him and trying to get a back-up elsewhere.(or maybe Eddie Lack will be back from his injury)

So:

Vancouver: Perry
Washington: Schneider, Van 3rd
Anaheim: Johansson, Gaunce, WAS 1st(assuming it's a late one)

Not bad value-wise, but I doubt Washington wants to add a third unproven goalie, especially for two 1st rounders

HooliganX2 01-29-2013 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale (Post 58582555)
Neuvirth was more of a toss-in. I wouldn't mind dropping him and trying to get a back-up elsewhere.(or maybe Eddie Lack will be back from his injury)

So:

Vancouver: Perry
Washington: Schneider, Van 3rd
Anaheim: Johansson, Gaunce, WAS 1st(assuming it's a late one)

I really don't think Wash wants Schneider they have 2 young talented goalies as is.

Sergei Shirokov 01-29-2013 03:30 AM

Not sure why we are jumping off the bandwagon, as far as I am concerned Lu is the one on his way out.

Everyone has there opinions but I just want to let everyone know that this opinion isn't the majority among Canucks fans (Not trying to be disprespectful Canuckaholic19 or VanKiller Whale)

I can't see us moving Cory unless there is a big overpayment. Schneids is our guy going forward.


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