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Ducksgo* 01-29-2013 03:24 PM

ANA - Philly
 
If Ryan is going to continue to struggle this season.

To Philly

Bobby Ryan

To ANA

Couturier - Luke Schenn

KelVarnsen 01-29-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducksgo (Post 58607917)
If Ryan is going to continue to struggle this season.

To Philly

Bobby Ryan

To ANA

Couturier - Luke Schenn

I can pretty much guess what Philly fan says of this............

orange is better 01-29-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducksgo (Post 58607917)
If Ryan is going to continue to struggle this season.

To Philly

Bobby Ryan

To ANA

Couturier - Luke Schenn

no thanks. we'd rather just make a run at perry in the offseason i'd imagine.

unless you want to make a deal around voracek, then i don't see a deal to be made.

Flyerfan47 01-29-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducksgo (Post 58607917)
If Ryan is going to continue to struggle this season.

To Philly

Bobby Ryan

To ANA

Couturier - Luke Schenn

Pure insanity... How does this help an aging flyers defense!!!

flyersfan271315 01-29-2013 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducksgo (Post 58607917)
If Ryan is going to continue to struggle this season.

To Philly

Bobby Ryan

To ANA

Couturier - Luke Schenn

Im not as mean as other people on here but come on... this is bad. I realize couturier is over valued on here but this just does not make sense from a flyers point of view. Couturier is not being traded unless its crazy overpayment(Fowler+). Adding Schenn to this just makes it worse, i realize Bobby Ryan is a really good player but not at the cost of two of our younger assets.

FlyersFan61290 01-29-2013 03:47 PM

no thanks, i don't like the value. we can wait a couple more yrs and take a run at him as a ufa.

Philadelphia Ducks 01-29-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyerfan47 (Post 58608081)
Pure insanity... How does this help an aging flyers defense!!!

Aging? Who? The only aging one is Timonen. Coburn, Grossmann, Schenn, Meszaros, Gervais are all under 30. The oldest one of those is 28 if I recall.

But outside that, I wouldn't accept the trade from a Philly pov. We really can't afford to lose a defensive player.

Exit Dose 01-29-2013 04:04 PM

I can't see Philly opting to lose a defenseman at this point.

I also wouldn't go for it from our standpoint.

laundryman 01-29-2013 04:10 PM

I think a deal for Ryan involving Voracek would make a lot of sense for both teams

Getz2perry 01-29-2013 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laundryman (Post 58610485)
I think a deal for Ryan involving Voracek would make a lot of sense for both teams

maybe with ++ at the end of that

Exit Dose 01-29-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laundryman (Post 58610485)
I think a deal for Ryan involving Voracek would make a lot of sense for both teams

Why does that make sense for Anaheim?

Getz2perry 01-29-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exit Dose (Post 58610569)
Why does that make sense for Anaheim?

Well see its the rule of orange and black

once a player puts on a flyer jersey he is instantly a future hart trophy winner selke candidate.

laundryman 01-29-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exit Dose (Post 58610569)
Why does that make sense for Anaheim?

Well, only if they're interested in moving Ryan of course. And obviously a straight up swap isn't gonna happen.

AKL 01-29-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyersfan271315 (Post 58608469)
Im not as mean as other people on here but come on... this is bad. I realize couturier is over valued on here but this just does not make sense from a flyers point of view. Couturier is not being traded unless its crazy overpayment(Fowler+). Adding Schenn to this just makes it worse, i realize Bobby Ryan is a really good player but not at the cost of two of our younger assets.

Yo, wat

Getz2perry 01-29-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J StClair28 (Post 58610853)
Yo, wat

LOL! id kinda hope they would take fowler for couts if we offered it(which we wouldnt)

but he wants a + kinda cute.

airforceones25 01-29-2013 04:28 PM

Bad for Philly. Not necessarily the value but the principle. They lack quality defenseman. There is no need for them to trade more defense for more offense.

Also I laugh when you say if Ryan keeps struggling. So lets say he does... Why would other teams be inclined to trade for him? lol

Bad proposal all the way around. Value might be okay but not good on principle.


EDIT: Also the Ducks already have a logjam of quality defenseman. Unless they are receiving a definite upgrade another defenseman is not needed!

airforceones25 01-29-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyersfan271315 (Post 58608469)
Im not as mean as other people on here but come on... this is bad. I realize couturier is over valued on here but this just does not make sense from a flyers point of view. Couturier is not being traded unless its crazy overpayment(Fowler+). Adding Schenn to this just makes it worse, i realize Bobby Ryan is a really good player but not at the cost of two of our younger assets.

I think you have it backwards. Couturier + for Fowler and i'm pretty certain the Ducks want no part of giving up Fowler anytime soon.

LEIFey 01-29-2013 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airforceones25 (Post 58611469)
I think you have it backwards. Couturier + for Fowler and i'm pretty certain the Ducks want no part of giving up Fowler anytime soon.

That's the point. The Flyers aren't keen to move Couturier either. That's why he asked for an admitted overpayment.

FlyingHigh28* 01-29-2013 07:51 PM

Classic hfboards.

"Player X is struggling and he plays for my favorite team. If he's going to continue to struggle, I no longer want him.

You, other team, give me way more than market value for Player X.

Sound fair?"

NitHeel 01-29-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J StClair28 (Post 58610853)
Yo, wat

Really not that tough to follow - Couturier's defensive presence on a team that doesn't defend all that well is more then what it would be for the average team.

JabbaJabba 01-30-2013 04:24 AM

How about Sbisa for Couturier?

edit: Either side could add a small + if you feel it's a bit unbalanced.

Anyhow, Ducks could use a center and with Schenn brothers united, Brayden isn't going anywhere so Couturier would be ideal. Philly needs some young defenders and Sbisa has the potential to be a top 4 defenceman, he just needs to get his stuff together. He could learn a thing or two from Timonen. Sbisa and Schenn could be a great pair in few years. For Ducks, having Getzlaf-Couturier-Holland in the middle would solve some center issues, while Koivu still has some game left in him and there's a guy like Bonino and prospects such as Rakell and Karlsson.

LEIFey 01-30-2013 11:14 AM

If Couturier is being moved, Fowler would have to be the target, not Sbisa. Which Anaheim wouldn't do. Flyers should only move Couturier if a young top-pairing guy is available. Sbisa is great, but is not a top-pairing guy right now.

RJ8812 01-30-2013 11:16 AM

I don't want the Flyers to trade for Ryan simply because I think he'll just sign with us for free if he reaches UFA in 2 years

muckbin15 01-30-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingHigh28 (Post 58631191)
Classic hfboards.

"Player X is struggling and he plays for my favorite team. If he's going to continue to struggle, I no longer want him.

You, other team, give me way more than market value for Player X.

Sound fair?"

a struggling ryan brings more to the table then any of the mentioned offers, we will gladly hold onto him.

DKQ 01-30-2013 12:37 PM

I doubt Anaheim moves Ryan. With the chance that Perry leaves in the offseason and Selanne likely retiring (although we've heard that before), Ryan would be their only top-six winger who isn't a rookie this year.


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