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Inferno 01-29-2013 10:17 PM

Carl Hagelin
 
I don't care if he didn't score tonight....he was, imho, our best player.

What a frikkin game...this was the guy i remember seeing last year.

M Gaz 01-29-2013 10:18 PM

Torts doesn't agree with you.

"Dumbness" lol

Cresto 01-29-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inferno (Post 58655389)
I don't care if he didn't score tonight....he was, imho, our best player.

What a frikkin game...this was the guy i remember seeing last year.

better than last year. Seems stronger.

Giacomin 01-29-2013 10:20 PM

He showed signs of the player he was last year

SupersonicMonkey* 01-29-2013 10:37 PM

Was at the game, kid was all over the place tonight. He made things happen. Really good game from Hags tonight. Especially on the PK.

Inferno 01-29-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NashtyAttack (Post 58655497)
Torts doesn't agree with you.

"Dumbness" lol

I don't care. He looked phenomenal tonight.

Glennsoe 01-29-2013 11:46 PM

About time he stepped up...

Burrows19 01-29-2013 11:52 PM

This is nice to see. I was about to come on and ask what you guys think the rest of his season will be like. Offensive production?

Pizza 01-29-2013 11:58 PM

Torts: ".....I focused on the dumbness of Hagelin."

The Torts dog house. Not a good place to be. Hags better get on his jets and get outa there quick.

trilobyte 01-30-2013 12:03 AM

Hagelin barely missed getting his first goal of the season tonight.
Please do not say that I am hallucinating when I say that he will be a big part of the Rangers success.
He is still fresh, still learning the game. The Rangers have gotten better over the offseason. Hagelin is getting better all the time.

If your goals do not target a level of competency that is well above your present capabilities, you are not growing.

Pizza 01-30-2013 12:18 AM

He's a very interesting player.

All Tort's humorous frustration aside, he looks like a very smart player to me. When he's playing well he's making things happen, but he's gotta start putting those chances he creates in the back of the net.

He could either become the very useful player that nets 10-15 goals a year and drives teams crazy on the forecheck and the PK. Or he puts it all together and becomes a consistent producer as well.

I'm betting on the latter. Works too hard and is too smart for it to be other wise. Solid 50 - 60 pt player. Kind of a Zetterberg lite. Very good for a late rounder.

Jarkko Immonen 01-30-2013 12:32 AM

Once this kid has the "smartness" of a vet he will be one of the best players in the league and scoring at a higher pace.

alves 01-30-2013 12:33 AM

Yes I noticed he's starting to play much better, too. He was one of the best forwards last night for sure.

Btw, here's that PK sequence after watching it again myself I had to upload it.


trilobyte 01-30-2013 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvesNYR (Post 58663739)
Yes I noticed he's starting to play much better, too. He was one of the best forwards last night for sure.

Btw, here's that PK sequence after watching it again myself I had to upload it.


Think of how rubbery those legs were. The PK was out there forever.
There was a bit of luck involved in that one. The Flyers did not look all that good on their powerplay either.

SnowblindNYR 01-30-2013 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrows19 (Post 58661573)
This is nice to see. I was about to come on and ask what you guys think the rest of his season will be like. Offensive production?

The thing about Hags is that he's a guy that isn't someone I would draft in fantasy hockey. He's a guy that has a decent shot and decent passing skills, but his game is energy. I have a feeling throughout his career he'll have some good seasons scoring and some not so good. He may be not less effective when he doesn't score. Scoring is not really the most important part of his game. There are far better options on the Rangers if you want consistent scoring. Although even guys like Cally and Stepan who are second liners haven't been scoring that much this year. Right now the best options on the Rangers for fantasy hockey are our first line (Gabby, Richards, and Nash) and Del Zotto.

SERE 24 01-30-2013 06:35 AM

I love Torts but sometimes he's a blind fool. Hagelin has been dumb, absolutely, but if all Torts took from last night were individual moments where he may have made a bad decision than he's displaying that blindness in this case because I saw Hagelin clearly showing improvement and looking like his old self and he was very noticeable in a good way. If Torts didn't notice it's simply because Torts has decided he's not ready to let Hagelin out of the dog house. I was really happy with Hags last night.

NYRangers723 01-30-2013 06:52 AM

ya he had a good game but he needs so show more because his last game that was good was back in the regular season of last year

NikC 01-30-2013 07:03 AM

I understand that Tortorella wants players like Hagelin and Krieder to play responsible 2-way games, but he needs to calm Down! No camp, preseason... Cut these guys some slack and show some grace here!

You've got to allow young players some room to make mistakes. We need both of these players contributing this season

Glennsoe 01-30-2013 07:09 AM

It's not the first "too many players on the ice" penalty our team has gotten so far....

Hags just happened to be the one who caused it now...

SingnBluesOnBroadway 01-30-2013 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inferno (Post 58655389)
I don't care if he didn't score tonight....he was, imho, our best player.

What a frikkin game...this was the guy i remember seeing last year.

Certainly was his best game of the season.

pld459666 01-30-2013 07:22 AM

I agree with the Hagelin assessment.

I also think that Stepan had a very solid game as well.

They keep playing like they did last night, the results will come in terms of points.

pld459666 01-30-2013 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glennsoe (Post 58668375)
It's not the first "too many players on the ice" penalty our team has gotten so far....

Hags just happened to be the one who caused it now...

Most to many men penalties are the result of the bench and not the players.

he gets a pass from me on that one. Could be a scape goat there.

NYR Viper 01-30-2013 07:25 AM

He looked much better last night which is going to be needed. He needs to bury a couple of chances but they will come.

Blue Blooded 01-30-2013 07:44 AM

Hagelin may not have scored any points yet, but his possession numbers have been fantastic.

His relative Corsi is +15.2, by far the best on the team, and he has done this against a QoC of 6.492; the most difficult minutes on the team. The reason he isn't putting up points is an unsustainable .0196 on-ice shooting %. We should also remember his snipe against Boston that would've won the game if not for ridiculous reffing.

Hagelin may not be the flashiest player, but he is tremendous at creating offensive pressure through his speed, tenacity and smartness.

Kreider Typical 01-30-2013 07:51 AM

def looks like his old self. he's simplified his game and the offense is coming.


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