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The Fuhr* 01-31-2013 08:38 AM

New RFA rule in CBA (Never draft a Russian)
 
http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2013...te-goin/12416/
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One other thing: O’Reilly can become an unrestricted free agent after NEXT season if he doesn’t sign with the Avs by then. Right now, the Avs are saying they won’t trade him at all this season, despite a TON of teams around the league calling about him. But obviously, if things remain at an impasse with the Avs on a contract, they will have to trade him at some point before next season, unless they want to lose a young, valuable, two-way center who plays with heart and leadership for nothing.
So this means the new CBA if a player as a RFA does not play in the NHL for two years he becomes a UFA

Example
Yakupov plays his ELC in Edmonton 18,19,20
Gets a big two year KHL offer and takes it 21,22
UFA in NHL at 23

Curtinho 01-31-2013 08:49 AM

I think this is a dangerous rule and just gives more power to the players.

MVP Tom Pyatt 01-31-2013 08:55 AM

Good bye Filatov. :(

Legend Killer 01-31-2013 09:03 AM

Only applicable to Russians?

The Fuhr* 01-31-2013 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend Killer (Post 58736377)
Only applicable to Russians?

All RFA but i see his effecting Russians the most

Do Make Say Think 01-31-2013 10:46 AM

Considering one of the main reasons why there was a lockout was owners unhappy about contracts getting too big too fast I am very happy that Colorado is refusing to play ball with O'Reilly.
Great player but if Colorado is not comfortable offering him what he wants well he's going to have to deal with it.

On topic: I can see this affecting Russian players who are a bit too eager. Hopefully it doesn't go too far because I'd rather have an NHL with lots of players from lots of places, Russians are awesome even if a bit enigmatic at times

operasen 01-31-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Below (Post 58735787)
http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2013...te-goin/12416/

So this means the new CBA if a player as a RFA does not play in the NHL for two years he becomes a UFA

Example
Yakupov plays his ELC in Edmonton 18,19,20
Gets a big two year KHL offer and takes it 21,22
UFA in NHL at 23

How in the H*** did Bettman and his boys miss that! I really skews things potentially for those guys that are looking only at the $$$ or the situation.

arglebargle 01-31-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cujomi (Post 58736033)
I think this is a dangerous rule and just gives more power to the players.

I'm sure teams will be itching to pay big bucks for guys who haven't played for 2 seasons.

saskriders 01-31-2013 02:19 PM

Doesn't have anything to do with Russians

Margaret Trudeau* 01-31-2013 02:56 PM

I think it's a personal decision by the player and doesn't have to do with race, country or creed. I'm going to have to give you a personal infraction Fuhr. If you get two more you've been added to my ignore list.

Xenophobism isn't tolerated by myself or my family and I will fight for its abolition.

HavlatMach9 01-31-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Trudeau (Post 58753055)
I think it's a personal decision by the player and doesn't have to do with race, country or creed.

Yes? KHL exists in Russia, and provides native Russian an excellent opportunity to make a living comparable to the NHL. Would be the case if similar leagues existed in Sweden and other countries.

Dr.Sens(e) 01-31-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saskriders (Post 58750995)
Doesn't have anything to do with Russians

Well, it does based on the fact a Russian is more likely to see a 2 year hiatus in the KHL as something they have no problem doing (and may in fact embrace it like Radulov has), where as a North American might be less inclined to literally spend two years in Siberia. See how some faired during the lockout to get an idea. Other Europeans might also consider it, although Russians would be the most likely I would think. Of course, then there are guys like O'Reilly who found himself over there already, but is almost half way home. Still, I doubt he is in the KHL come March, let alone next season.

I actually see this being more of a benefit to the mid-tier guys than a Yakupov, who has been in North America for 3 years already. The guys who are offered a two-way deal post ETC will likely look at other options, and this would be a good option for some, versus being stuck under the RFA rules with little leverage. The top RFA's always have a bit more leverage and I doubt many will go to this extreme(competitive pressure, fan outrage, offer sheets etc.).

danishh 01-31-2013 03:58 PM

this isnt a new rule.

RFA's always had the option of just waiting until they gained UFA eligibility through age. No one does it though because that requires leaving and going to europe for much less money*.



*unless you are a russian star player.

JonnyMacSen 02-02-2013 10:05 AM

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2013...-status/12444/

CanadianHockey 02-02-2013 10:46 AM

I'm pretty sure they only lowered UFA down to 25 in the negotiations. ROR probably won't hit UFA for four years if he fails to play another game in the NHL.

DJB 02-02-2013 02:56 PM

Shouldn't affect us so long as the Murray's are here. They don't do Russian in round 1!

PhysicalTorque 02-02-2013 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Below (Post 58735787)
http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2013...te-goin/12416/

So this means the new CBA if a player as a RFA does not play in the NHL for two years he becomes a UFA

Example
Yakupov plays his ELC in Edmonton 18,19,20
Gets a big two year KHL offer and takes it 21,22
UFA in NHL at 23

Haha, Fuhr is back after they fired Clouston. Yeah, I KHL is stealing players with cash.;)

Don Draper 02-02-2013 05:36 PM

What? Fuhr read one article and took it as gospel, while expounding on its merits in other areas it proved to be wrong?

Why I never!

Fenix Rises 2026 02-02-2013 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhysicalTorque (Post 58904869)
Haha, Fuhr is back after they fired Clouston. Yeah, I KHL is stealing players with cash.;)

I have a conspiracy theory that this new fuhr is not the same guy that was previously posting. Can't prove it, but the attitude and writing style seems different since his miraculous return.

On an unrelated note...anyone watch homeland? that show is awesome.

PhysicalTorque 02-02-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenix Rises 2026 (Post 58913037)
I have a conspiracy theory that this new fuhr is not the same guy that was previously posting. Can't prove it, but the attitude and writing style seems different since his miraculous return.

On an unrelated note...anyone watch homeland? that show is awesome.

Creepy, account hijacking. Usually Fuhr has a truckload of things to say, this is definitely not the old fufu.

aragorn 02-02-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Draper (Post 58912729)
What? Fuhr read one article and took it as gospel, while expounding on its merits in other areas it proved to be wrong?

Why I never!

Just because he posted it doesn't mean he believes it or takes it as gospel. Don't jump to conclusions. He may just have posted it for interest sake.

Hutz 02-03-2013 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JonnyMacSen (Post 58884981)

In case people didn't bother to check this link:

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*Yep, I biffed it on this one all right. He can’t just be UFA after next year if he doesn’t sign. Some things got lost in translation on the new CBA between me and others. I will now go do my time in the penalty box.
We can start drafting Russians again.


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