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MMANumminen 02-03-2013 06:10 AM

Komarov discussion thread.
 
:D:D:D

http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/pl...sive/sort/hits

Way to go Leo!

But how come he don't make any points? Wood hands? Bad luck? Please enlighten me, I haven't watched a full game this year.

King William 02-03-2013 06:30 AM

He has been really good. Though Leo hasn't had more than a handful of opportunities to score, so far. He'll figure it out. Up until now, his linemates have controlled the puck a lot more and Komarov has parked himself in front of the net and finished hits.

Good player.

bax 02-03-2013 06:36 AM

I've been hearing he's said in an interview lately he's not interested in playing with the puck, just hitting people. I haven't read that interview just what I've heard. He's definitely creating chances for his linemates, that's for sure.

I like having him on this team.

Raging Bull 02-03-2013 06:44 AM

I thought last night was his best game so far, hilarious to see Chara go after him after a clean hit. Don't know what it is about him, haven't seen the opposition hate a Leaf player this much since Tucker.

Morlu 02-03-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raging Bull (Post 58957693)
I thought last night was his best game so far, hilarious to see Chara go after him after a clean hit. Don't know what it is about him, haven't seen the opposition hate a Leaf player this much since Tucker.


I'm a Leaf fan but it wasn't a clean hit. Boychuk? Didn't even touch the puck before he got hammered. Was a good hit though.

Raging Bull 02-03-2013 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Morlu (Post 58958091)
I'm a Leaf fan but it wasn't a clean hit. Boychuk? Didn't even touch the puck before he got hammered. Was a good hit though.



Borderline interference I guess, looked like he was reaching for the puck. Definitely not a board which is what they called it though.

ULF_55 02-03-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Morlu (Post 58958091)
I'm a Leaf fan but it wasn't a clean hit. Boychuk? Didn't even touch the puck before he got hammered. Was a good hit though.

They were both going for the puck, trouble is Boychuk was in the way. I see this play happen continuously with no penalty called.

You just never know anymore because players are diving all over the place to get a call.

legendinblue 02-03-2013 08:18 AM

He was pretty much the only Leaf getting some hits yesterday, along with Frattin. I'm not expecting many points, but with Kadri and Frattin he's bound to get some, off a rebound or a deflection. I'm loving his game. And I believe he can be more of a pest than he's been for us so far. :handclap:

LeafDangler 02-03-2013 08:25 AM

Leading the league in hits is a negative stat IMO. It means when he is on the ice the other team most likely has possession of the puck. In order to rack up hit numbers your line needs to be bad. It's similar to how Crosby always has a high turnover rate. When you have the puck all the time you tend to give it away more than others.

I see Komarov as a grittier Rickard Wallin. I expect him to be one and done and back to Europe next year unless he can really step up his play.

The Apologist 02-03-2013 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeafDangler (Post 58958643)
Leading the league in hits is a negative stat IMO. It means when he is on the ice the other team most likely has possession of the puck. In order to rack up hit numbers your line needs to be bad. It's similar to how Crosby always has a high turnover rate. When you have the puck all the time you tend to give it away more than others.

I see Komarov as a grittier Rickard Wallin. I expect him to be one and done and back to Europe next year unless he can really step up his play.

Funny that this line is arguably our best. Any stats to show time of possession and number if chances per line? Think you'd find that your analysis is quite off.

Alazais 02-03-2013 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeafDangler (Post 58958643)
Leading the league in hits is a negative stat IMO. It means when he is on the ice the other team most likely has possession of the puck. In order to rack up hit numbers your line needs to be bad. It's similar to how Crosby always has a high turnover rate. When you have the puck all the time you tend to give it away more than others.

I see Komarov as a grittier Rickard Wallin. I expect him to be one and done and back to Europe next year unless he can really step up his play.

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Originally Posted by CrazeeEddie (Post 58958749)
Funny that this line is arguably our best. Any stats to show time of possession and number if chances per line? Think you'd find that your analysis is quite off.

Well said, and much nicer than I would have said it. I don't understand the logic of some of these people. It's like they're trying to be ridiculous.

number72 02-03-2013 08:40 AM

Komorav makes everyone forget about Schenn

thewave 02-03-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by number72 (Post 58958881)
Komorav makes everyone forget about Schenn

Who?

GordieHoweHatTrick 02-03-2013 08:57 AM

Leo has been earning his keep away from the puck when the team has possession and on the puck when the team doesn't have possession. I've been a fan of his since his first game as a Marlie. He reminds me of Darcy Tucker and its not just because of the skates he wears ;)

smitty10 02-03-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeafDangler (Post 58958643)
Leading the league in hits is a negative stat IMO. It means when he is on the ice the other team most likely has possession of the puck. In order to rack up hit numbers your line needs to be bad. It's similar to how Crosby always has a high turnover rate. When you have the puck all the time you tend to give it away more than others.

I see Komarov as a grittier Rickard Wallin. I expect him to be one and done and back to Europe next year unless he can really step up his play.

You see him as a grittier Wallin? Where is this comparison coming from?

Komarov is grittier, faster, younger and has created far more opportunities in his time with the Leafs than Wallin ever did. Not to mention that Wallin is a center and Komarov a winger, but the comparison is a little ridiculous. Komarov is making his presence felt when he's on the ice and is using his strength to create room for his line mates. Each game we've seen him progress and utilize his physicality and defensive play to the fullest. Even if his scoring doesn't translate to the NHL he'll still be a very serviceable 3rd or 4th line winger who can play the PK and jump onto a top 6 line as a filler. Definitely the opposite of a Rickard Wallin who came in and didn't sniff any line but the 4th in his time with the Maple Leafs.

Kyle Doobas* 02-03-2013 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeafDangler (Post 58958643)
Leading the league in hits is a negative stat IMO. It means when he is on the ice the other team most likely has possession of the puck. In order to rack up hit numbers your line needs to be bad.

Komarov-Kadri-Frattin has been far and away our best line this year and Komarov's relative corsi is 7.6, one of the highest on the team.

Dark Knight 02-03-2013 09:16 AM

I'm a fan of his. The guy is a hitting machine and can kill penalties.

LeafDangler 02-03-2013 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Stallone (Post 58959569)
Komarov-Kadri-Frattin has been far and away our best line this year and Komarov's relative corsi is 7.6, one of the highest on the team.

I would counter that the sample size is incredibly small at this point and being boosted by a ton of offensive zone starts and easy minutes. That said this is the best defence of him presented so far.

PhiladelphiaKessel 02-03-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeafDangler (Post 58958643)
Leading the league in hits is a negative stat IMO. It means when he is on the ice the other team most likely has possession of the puck. In order to rack up hit numbers your line needs to be bad. It's similar to how Crosby always has a high turnover rate. When you have the puck all the time you tend to give it away more than others.

I see Komarov as a grittier Rickard Wallin. I expect him to be one and done and back to Europe next year unless he can really step up his play.

So much fail in this post

Lonny Bohonos 02-03-2013 09:27 AM

Just watching the game now and man does he hit heavy.

FerrisRox 02-03-2013 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raging Bull (Post 58957693)
I thought last night was his best game so far, hilarious to see Chara go after him after a clean hit. Don't know what it is about him, haven't seen the opposition hate a Leaf player this much since Tucker.

Clean hit?

Are you so biased toward the team you root for you can't tell the difference between obvious interference and a clean hit?

Here's a good tool to help you sort it out: does the player who got hit have the puck? If he doesn't, you probably shouldn't be trumpeting it as "a clean hit."

Doug Gilmour 02-03-2013 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FerrisRox (Post 58960011)
Clean hit?

Are you so biased toward the team you root for you can't tell the difference between obvious interference and a clean hit?

Here's a good tool to help you sort it out: does the player who got hit have the puck? If he doesn't, you probably shouldn't be trumpeting it as "a clean hit."

It definitely should have been called interference.

Anyways, it is nice to have a forward that will hit and not have a defenseman get out of position to make the hit.

Keep it up Komarov.

LEAFANFORLIFE23 02-03-2013 09:36 AM

the more I see him the more I think to myself what a pairing he and clutterbuck could be THAT would be the makings of a shutdown line.

thewave 02-03-2013 09:39 AM

Komarov is the best thing to come the leafs way since JVR

ULF_55 02-03-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeafDangler (Post 58959713)
I would counter that the sample size is incredibly small at this point and being boosted by a ton of offensive zone starts and easy minutes. That said this is the best defence of him presented so far.

Are you saying you are using a larger sample size?


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