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HappyGilmourr 02-03-2013 07:33 PM

Crosby or Malkin
 
Just wondering who you guys think is better? I didn't post this on the main board because I don't care for any one else's opinion.

MrBurgundy* 02-03-2013 07:35 PM

Malkin has more natural talent. Crosby is the better player because he's more consistent.

In other words Malkin's ceiling is higher, but his floor is lower, even if both floors are way above the average star player.

Rowdy Roddy Peeper 02-03-2013 07:43 PM

Crosby. Doesn't have Geno's silky hands or one-timer, but he manages the puck more responsibly, is a reliable defensive player, and a much better face-off man.

Love 'em both to death though. I want Sid and Geno to retire here.

Jacob 02-03-2013 09:20 PM

Stop this.

thecore 02-03-2013 09:32 PM

Not a very good question. But I would do whatever it takes to keep both through their primes.

Big McLargehuge 02-03-2013 09:51 PM

Doesn't matter as long as we have them both :D

Seriously, though...I agree with other Ron.

Dacks 02-03-2013 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBurgundy (Post 58997853)
Malkin has more natural talent. Crosby is the better player because he's more consistent.

In other words Malkin's ceiling is higher, but his floor is lower, even if both floors are way above the average star player.

This.

I did an analysis a while ago on Ovechkin, Malkin and Crosby. I took every 82-game stretch over the careers, and looked at highs and lows for points.

Crosby high/low: 137/98
Malkin high/low: 127/80
Ovechkin high/low: 134/72

So while they have similar highs, you rarely see a sustained low from Crosby. He's just unbelievably consistent at generating goals.

(Not updated since Jan 2012)

billybudd 02-03-2013 10:04 PM

Crosby.

Malkin's bigger, fancier and stronger with more weapons, but Crosby's got one unique trick that's more valuable than all of that--he processes the game faster than any player I've ever seen.

Faster, not better. Not saying he's got a better hockey brain than, for instance, Wayne, because he doesn't.

Crafton 02-03-2013 10:07 PM

Phil Kessel.

#66 02-03-2013 10:12 PM

Crosby doesn't get enough credit for how unique his game is. Think about it. How many other NHL goal scoring leaders play the full 200' of the ice like he does? Its not Mario, Gretz, Bossy or Guy. Even good two way guys like Iggy or Howe don't cover the full ice because they're wingers or good two way centers stats are assist heavy.

Jacques G 02-03-2013 10:17 PM

Short answer: Crosby.

Long answer: Crosby is better.

AZPenguins 02-03-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques G (Post 59007179)
Short answer: Crosby.

Long answer: Crosby is better.

Agree with your short answer 100%. You long answer is debatable though.

od71 02-03-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozak (Post 58997643)
Just wondering who you guys think is better? I didn't post this on the main board because I don't care for any one else's opinion.

I'm just wondering why guys from ouside are always trying to start another Holy War? If you are really interested why don't you dig it in countless similar topics: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1326331 just not to repeat all the same words hundred times?

ColePens 02-03-2013 10:55 PM

Apples/Oranges. I like that both are on my team. I also think they are the 2 best players in the NHL. Next in line would be Stammer.

BLASPHEMOUS 02-03-2013 10:56 PM

Crosby. I love Malkin as well, but Crosby has the rare ability to do more with less.

Honour Over Glory 02-03-2013 10:57 PM

Crosby - More well rounded.
Malkin - Has more talent.

Both are #1 and #2 in terms of best in the game, you can't go wrong with either player.

Both love being on this team and don't have any siblings playing anywhere in the NHL that they eventually want to reunite with, so really, why do we need to do this every month or so?

od71 02-03-2013 11:01 PM

Short answer: Malkin.

Long answer: Malkin's highs are higher than Crosby's and resulted in SC.

TravisUlrich 02-03-2013 11:01 PM

Crosby. But there will continue be games/stretches where Malkin outshines him.

IcedCapp 02-03-2013 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by od71 (Post 59009091)
Short answer: Malkin.

Long answer: Malkin's highs are higher than Crosby's and resulted in SC.

What's SC mean? Because if it means what I think it means (Stanley Cup) not sure how your answer is that. People seem to forget just how good Crosby was during those playoffs.

Shockmaster 02-03-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endersoldier (Post 59008897)
Crosby. I love Malkin as well, but Crosby has the rare ability to do more with less.

Wouldn't say Malkin is incapable of doing more with less though. Remember, he had Fedotenko and Talbot on his line during the 2009 playoffs.

Overall though, I'd say Crosby is better. Has all the skills of a superstar center, but also is very defensively responsible and will go to the dirty areas and grind if he has to.

bambamcam4ever 02-03-2013 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by od71 (Post 59009091)
Short answer: Malkin.

Long answer: Malkin's highs are higher than Crosby's and resulted in SC.

Yeah, don't know about that. He is more exciting player to watch and can go through the defense more easily because of his longer reach, but Crosby has much better vision and is simply the more effective player. Malkin's best was last year where he played with Neal and Kunitz and was on pace to score 119 while Crosby was on a 133 point pace and rising while on a line with Kunitz and Dupuis.

od71 02-03-2013 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bambamcam4ever (Post 59009423)
Yeah, don't know about that. He is more exciting player to watch and can go through the defense more easily because of his longer reach, but Crosby has much better vision and is simply the more effective player. Malkin's best was last year where he played with Neal and Kunitz and was on pace to score 119 while Crosby was on a 133 point pace and rising while on a line with Kunitz and Dupuis.

Malkin was better in 2009 when he won scoring race both in regular season and PO playing with Fedotenko and Talbot.

Jaded-Fan 02-03-2013 11:38 PM

I am trying to decide if I prefer brunettes

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or Blondes

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...NQnz3Qb1SH8LPg

Can you all help me to decide? Or can I keep both?

Human 02-03-2013 11:59 PM

getting to choose between two perfect ****.

no seriously, it's great not having to choose one or the other since both are on my team.

Shockmaster 02-04-2013 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaded-Fan (Post 59010487)
I am trying to decide if I prefer brunettes

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...h71nbKOYaNso3A

or Blondes

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...NQnz3Qb1SH8LPg

Can you all help me to decide? Or can I keep both?

If the choice is only between these two pictures I'd take the brunette first. I wouldn't mind the blonde one coming along, but she might have to accept second fiddle in this case. :naughty:


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