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Bourne Endeavor 02-06-2013 09:46 PM

Compliance Buyout: Erik Cole or Tomas Kaberle
 
I will preface this by acknowledging it is far too early for any definitive, but assuming devil's advocate for moment. Both have played awful since the start of the season, although Kaberle has been consistently bad from day one. Excluding a drastic resurgence from Cole as the season wears on. Should we consider him a buyout candidate? He is signed a year longer and were he to retire we would be stuck with both his and Kaberle's cap. I also believe Kaberle could be sold for peanuts at the deadline due to how many teams are in need of a temporary fix on defense. Cole, on the other hand, is absolutely worthless right now.

llamateizer 02-06-2013 09:48 PM

No way for Cole
the question should be, buy out Kaberle or not?

NewHabsEra* 02-06-2013 09:49 PM

Cole wants to retire.. We wont have to buy him out..

JohnLennon 02-06-2013 09:50 PM

I fully agree that Erik Cole has been awful lately, but come on man, this is kinda silly. Cole had his best season of his career last year, and that was after playing like **** for his first 8-10 games. Hopefully that is the case this year.

The guy has historically had poor starts. I just hope he gets it together sooner rather than later. They won't buy him out. He won't go from top line one year to off the team for nothing.

Also, think about the guy's value. No one will want Kaberle at that price, but Cole brings a lot to a team. A GM would be stupid to buy him out and lose him for nothing.

Jake5 02-06-2013 09:50 PM

I'm really really hoping he can turn it around, but 95% of the time he's on the ice, Cole just looks like he has no interest in playing and his head is elsewhere. Not sure if he's a buyout candidate, but the difference between last season and now is like night and day

Nicko999 02-06-2013 09:50 PM

LOL let's be serious now!!!

As horrible as Cole is... let's not forget he scored 35 goals last season.

Bourne Endeavor 02-06-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NewHabsEra (Post 59199299)
Cole wants to retire.. We wont have to buy him out..

And if he does. It counts against the cap, unless I misread the new CBA.

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Originally Posted by Nicko999 (Post 59199341)
LOL let's be serious now!!!

As horrible as Cole is... let's not forget he scored 35 goals last season.

Yep, hence how I posted the thread. I'm merely playing devil's advocate.

Seb 02-06-2013 09:50 PM

You can't fkn be serious... Cole? Really?

Jesus christ.

Luiginho 02-06-2013 09:51 PM

Habs fans are freaking stupid sometimes. Cole scored 35 ****ing goals last season for us and had a very slow start. Let's take a breather here, shall we?

Natey 02-06-2013 10:04 PM

Kaberle.. but to say he's been awful is a complete overstatement.

What a ridiculous thread though.

coolasprICE 02-06-2013 10:05 PM

I say Max Pacioretty

Bourne Endeavor 02-06-2013 10:06 PM

*sighs*

Did some of you miss I specifically said I'm only playing devil's advocate and right now is too early? By definition, this would insinuate Cole not rebounding. That is the scenario I was painting. My immediate concern in said scenario is retirements now counting against the cap. Unless I am mistaken there. We could get stuck with both Cole and Kaberle in dead space.

Once again, devil's advocate. That is all.

OneSharpMarble 02-06-2013 10:07 PM

Buy out Pacioretty, not even a goal! He will probably never score again in his career.

Montreal Impact FC 02-06-2013 10:07 PM

Well obviously Cole isnt playing great... but he did the same last year.. veteran like him will eventually turn the swith on... and the thing is he might not even do it in purpose... the engine will just start roaring again like that.. off course eventually he will slow down he isnt getting any younger and his comments surely left a trace in our minds but.. its not 9 games that will indicate that lol.

Bourne Endeavor 02-06-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSharpMarble (Post 59200629)
Buy out Pacioretty, not even a goal! He will probably never score again in his career.

Nah, we'll just champion the Kaberle trade even if now we might buy him out, right?

LyricalLyricist 02-06-2013 10:13 PM

Bourne, Cole's contract isn't 35+. If he retires, it does NOT count against the cap...

bigtimehockeyfan999* 02-06-2013 10:13 PM

kaberle for sure...cole has trade value unlike kabs....not that i think we should trade him..but its always an option and we could definitely get a good return from a contending team looking for that missing piece...cole would be a great addition on a top team...but with that being said i think we`ve shown enough to proove that we could very well be a top team this year..so lets hang on to him for a bit.

Bourne Endeavor 02-06-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnLennon (Post 59199327)
I fully agree that Erik Cole has been awful lately, but come on man, this is kinda silly. Cole had his best season of his career last year, and that was after playing like **** for his first 8-10 games. Hopefully that is the case this year.

The guy has historically had poor starts. I just hope he gets it together sooner rather than later. They won't buy him out. He won't go from top line one year to off the team for nothing.

Also, think about the guy's value. No one will want Kaberle at that price, but Cole brings a lot to a team. A GM would be stupid to buy him out and lose him for nothing.

Cole was traded back to Carolina after a horrid season in Edmonton for O'Sullivan and a second. This preceded his current contract and the vast majority cited it as ridiculous. If he does not rebound, I do not see any team have even the slightest interest in offering much of anything.

MTL-rules 02-06-2013 10:15 PM

Cole could get us a 1st round pick + ... it's ridiculous.

Bourne Endeavor 02-06-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LyricalLyricist (Post 59201155)
Bourne, Cole's contract isn't 35+. If he retires, it does NOT count against the cap...

Aye, but I recall early retirements now counting. If I am mistaken, then my apologies for the misread. That is what I based this on.

LyricalLyricist 02-06-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bourne Endeavor (Post 59201347)
Aye, but I recall early retirements now counting. If I am mistaken, then my apologies for the misread. That is what I based this on.

It may be. I dunno specifics of new CBA. I'm used to old one.

OneSharpMarble 02-06-2013 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bourne Endeavor (Post 59200837)
Nah, we'll just champion the Kaberle trade even if now we might buy him out, right?

**** Kaberle, he is the reason we lost tonight obviously, same with Budaj, wtf good is he on the bench?

Buy out Kaberle and Cole and Gionta and lastly Pleks because he flubbed that breakaway!

Bourne Endeavor 02-06-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MTL-rules (Post 59201305)
Cole could get us a 1st round pick + ... it's ridiculous.

Patrick O'Sullivan and a second was all he got before. If he plays awful all season, he wouldn't garner anything near that.

Bourne Endeavor 02-06-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSharpMarble (Post 59201505)
**** Kaberle, he is the reason we lost tonight obviously, same with Budaj, wtf good is he on the bench?

Buy out Kaberle and Cole and Gionta and lastly Pleks because he flubbed that breakaway!

Oh, a straw man. Those are fun.

OneSharpMarble 02-06-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bourne Endeavor (Post 59201617)
Oh, a straw man. Those are fun.

About as much fun as idiotic hypotheticals right?


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