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caley 02-07-2013 02:39 AM

Ryan O'Reilly Headed to Offer Sheet or Trade?
 
From Adrien Dater

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Hopes were raised Tuesday night among Avalanche fans about the Ryan O'Reilly contract standoff with the team, when it was reported by your humble correspondent that talks still were ongoing after a period of inactivity. Could a resolution finally be at hand?
Sorry, but it doesn't look like it from what I'm hearing. Neither side appears willing to budge.
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One of the underreported aspects of this standoff is the growing possibility that another team could make O'Reilly a Group II free-agent offer sheet. There are many teams interested in making a deal for O'Reilly, but it's unclear whether the Avs are considering moving him.
If they're not but another team really wants him they are free to offer O'Reilly any contract they want. Then the Avs would have their hand forced; either they would have to match the offer or let him go and accept draft picks as compensation.
http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/...#ixzz2KCV7uFZd

Nothing terribly new here, but thought it was interesting Dater (Though the Avs are reportedly one of the teams who leak the least info) thought it might be headed toward an offer sheet.

Grant 02-07-2013 02:45 AM

What is the deadline a RFA must be signed by before they are unable to play at all for the season?

frostyflo 02-07-2013 02:55 AM

Didn't follow this case closely, can anyone please explain where the differences are?
Money? How much does he want?
Or is the term the problem?
Or an organization intern problem?

MPStoEberletoHall* 02-07-2013 03:22 AM

This is the perfect guy for the Oilers

snizzbone* 02-07-2013 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MPStoEberletoHall (Post 59211503)
This is the perfect guy for the Oilers

This is actually the perfect guy for the Leafs.

clumping platelets 02-07-2013 03:25 AM

Perfect guy for the Sabres

Gliff 02-07-2013 03:28 AM

Perfect guy for Ducks #2.

sansabri 02-07-2013 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by frostyflo (Post 59211293)
Didn't follow this case closely, can anyone please explain where the differences are?
Money? How much does he want?
Or is the term the problem?
Or an organization intern problem?

if i reckon, he was offered $5M for 2 years or $17M for 5 years.

there isn't much other info out there.

LickTheEnvelope 02-07-2013 03:37 AM

Perfect guy for most teams lol

Gliff 02-07-2013 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LickTheEnvelope (Post 59211585)
Perfect guy for most teams lol

But most perfect for mine.

MW6 02-07-2013 04:31 AM

I'd say he's perfect for an offersheet by the Oilers

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Yakupov-RoR-Hemsky

The only thing I would worry about is that, the 1st pick they're giving away would be a really high one.

oilersfan11 02-07-2013 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MW6 (Post 59211909)
I'd say he's perfect for an offersheet by the Oilers

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Yakupov-RoR-Hemsky

The only thing I would worry about is that, the 1st pick they're giving away would be a really high one.

The Oilers are better off drafting high.

CBinTokyo 02-07-2013 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MW6 (Post 59211909)
I'd say he's perfect for an offersheet by the Oilers

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Yakupov-RoR-Hemsky

The only thing I would worry about is that, the 1st pick they're giving away would be a really high one.

It's guranteed to be another first isn't it :sarcasm:

DontToewzMeBro 02-07-2013 06:27 AM

Saad-Toews-HossA
Sharp-RoR-Kane
Shaw-Bolland-Stalberg

Solid

Falco Lombardi 02-07-2013 06:58 AM

Perron-Backes-Oshie
McDonald-O'Reilly-Tarasenko
Steen-Berglund-Stewart

:yo:

Hutton 02-07-2013 07:02 AM

lol... pencil him in any lineup and of course it'll look impressive

McCanovin 02-07-2013 07:26 AM

I hope he remains unsigned so Oilers can offersheet him in the offseason.

Seth Jones(finish 17th, wins lotto) + ROR:sarcasm:

Oilers troll HF once again:laugh:

Blitz 02-07-2013 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MW6 (Post 59211909)
I'd say he's perfect for an offersheet by the Oilers

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Yakupov-RoR-Hemsky

The only thing I would worry about is that, the 1st pick they're giving away would be a really high one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DontToewzMeBro (Post 59212899)
Saad-Toews-HossA
Sharp-RoR-Kane
Shaw-Bolland-Stalberg

Solid

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Inglorious One (Post 59213291)
Perron-Backes-Oshie
McDonald-O'Reilly-Tarasenko
Steen-Berglund-Stewart

:yo:

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy Kassian (Post 59213355)
lol... pencil him in any lineup and of course it'll look impressive

Vanek-Hodgson-Pominville
Ennis-O'Reilly-Stafford
Foligno-Grigorenko-Ott
Gerbe/Scott-Hecht-Kaleta


True. Any team can do this...

Goulet17 02-07-2013 08:11 AM

It is hard to imagine that the Avs would not match any offer unless it is extraordinarily high in terms of annual salary ($5.5 M +). The Avs have a large amount of cap space and one of the wealthier ownership groups in the NHL. That same ownership group has greenlighted large UFA signings and very high payrolls over the years.

It seems like it would be hard for the Avs' management to ultimately survive not matching an offer sheet with their jobs intact.

AlbertaLeafFan31 02-07-2013 08:19 AM

The avalanche are not trading him to the oilers. They would face him to many times in a season

Hutton 02-07-2013 08:26 AM

yeah Oilers can forget about it, it would be like Vancouver trading Schneider to them

O'Reilly would really be a good fit there because of the leadership he brings. It's funny how the Avs captaincy was between him and Landeskog at one point (fan pov)

NaiveLeafsFan 02-07-2013 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Goulet17 (Post 59214575)
It is hard to imagine that the Avs would not match any offer unless it is extraordinarily high in terms of annual salary ($5.5 M +). The Avs have a large amount of cap space and one of the wealthier ownership groups in the NHL. That same ownership group has greenlighted large UFA signings and very high payrolls over the years.

It seems like it would be hard for the Avs' management to ultimately survive not matching an offer sheet with their jobs intact.

Yeah but don't they have an internal salary cap? Have to think that's played a role in these negotiations, especially with Stastny at 6.6 (?) Cap hit.

Falco Lombardi 02-07-2013 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy Kassian (Post 59213355)
lol... pencil him in any lineup and of course it'll look impressive

shhh.... I'm dreaming lol

cgf 02-07-2013 08:35 AM

Would love to see someone offersheet Ryan. I actually think that's what both sides are hoping for. The Avs get to sign Ryan to a pricier long term deal, 4-4.5 per for 5ish, without the other youngsters being able to point to this negotiation in the future since the team was forced into the better. Ryan gets the money and commitment he wants.

Unfortunately I think the chances of him actually getting offersheeted are non-existent, but it would still be the ideal resolution.

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Originally Posted by NaiveLeafsFan (Post 59215053)
Yeah but don't they have an internal salary cap? Have to think that's played a role in these negotiations, especially with Stastny at 6.6 (?) Cap hit.

Nope. The only problem is Ryan's worried that if he took a bridge deal to he wouldn't get the chance to put up numbers for a big next contract now that Dutchy's healthy and Staz is no longer suffering from his 2011 curse. That and the ******** over the negotiations, but that's not a major long term issue, even with someone as proud as Factor.

goal1228 02-07-2013 08:39 AM

[QUOTE=cgf;59215289]Would love to see someone offersheet Ryan. I actually think that's what both sides are hoping for. The Avs get to sign Ryan to a pricier long term deal, 4-4.5 per for 5ish, without the other youngsters being able to point to this negotiation in the future since the team was forced into the better. Ryan gets the money and commitment he wants.

Unfortunately I think the chances of him actually getting offersheeted are non-existent, but it would still be the ideal resolution.




Here are the draft pick compensation figures for the 2012-13 season:

$1,110,249 or below No Compensation

Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 3rd round pick

Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 2nd round pick

Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 1st round pick, 3rd

Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd

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Over $8,410,976 Four 1st Round Picks


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