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oilersfan11 02-07-2013 06:32 AM

Oilers' UFA's and RFA's
 
Sam Gagner-RFA
Ryan Jones-UFA
Magnus Paajarvi-RFA
Teemu Hartikainen-RFA
Darcy Hordichuk-UFA
Lennart Petrell-UFA
Anton Lander-RFA
Ryan Whitney-UFA
Ladislav Smid-UFA
Andy Sutton-UFA
Mark Fistric-UFA
Theo Peckham-RFA
Nikolai Khabibulin-UFA




Which players would you re-sign?
How long and for how much money would you re-sign the players chosen by you?

Chooch 02-07-2013 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilersfan11 (Post 59212363)
Sam Gagner-RFA
Ryan Jones-UFA
Magnus Paajarvi-RFA
Teemu Hartikainen-RFA
Darcy Hordichuk-UFA
Lennart Petrell-UFA
Anton Lander-RFA
Ryan Whitney-UFA
Ladislav Smid-UFA
Andy Sutton-UFA
Mark Fistric-UFA
Theo Peckham-RFA
Nikolai Khabibulin-UFA

Which players would you re-sign?
How long and for how much money would you re-sign the players chosen by you?

Considering this season develops into another train-wreck, it's time to change things up.

Sam Gagner - Two years @ 5M/per + bonuses. (If he keeps the work up)
Ryan Jones - One year @ 1.5M.
Ladislav Smid - Two years @ 3.7M/per.
Mark Fistric - Two years @ 1.5M/per.

Burger Baron 02-07-2013 06:44 AM

Sam Gagner-RFA -> 3yrs - 10mill
Ryan Jones-UFA -> 2yrs - 3mill
Magnus Paajarvi-RFA -> 2yrs - 3mill
Teemu Hartikainen-RFA -> 2yrs - 3mill
Darcy Hordichuk-UFA - > goodbye
Lennart Petrell-UFA -> 2yrs - 2mill
Anton Lander-RFA -> 2yrs - 2mill
Ryan Whitney-UFA -> au revoir
Ladislav Smid-UFA -> 4yrs - 13mill
Andy Sutton-UFA -> adiós
Mark Fistric-UFA -> 2yrs - 3mill
Theo Peckham-RFA -> Abschied
Nikolai Khabibulin-UFA -> до свидания

488fitter 02-07-2013 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burger Baron (Post 59212487)
Sam Gagner-RFA -> 3yrs - 10mill
Ryan Jones-UFA -> 2yrs - 3mill
Magnus Paajarvi-RFA -> 2yrs - 3mill
Teemu Hartikainen-RFA -> 2yrs - 3mill
Darcy Hordichuk-UFA - > goodbye
Lennart Petrell-UFA -> 2yrs - 2mill
Anton Lander-RFA -> 2yrs - 2mill
Ryan Whitney-UFA -> au revoir
Ladislav Smid-UFA -> 4yrs - 13mill
Andy Sutton-UFA -> adiós
Mark Fistric-UFA -> 2yrs - 3mill
Theo Peckham-RFA -> Abschied
Nikolai Khabibulin-UFA -> до свидания

I agree with this but I'd give Gagner less $ (10 games doesn't have me convinced yet) and Smid more $.

Gagner is a tricky one because in two more seasons he's a UFA. So I'd give him a contract like 4-6 years @ $4M which is still a tradable contract if need be. Smid easily gets $4M and I'd be fine with 4-6 years again.

Muscles Glasses 02-07-2013 07:01 AM

The only players I would let walk are Hordichuk, Whitney, Sutton and Khabibulin. I would resign Lander, Jones,Petrell and Peckham for the minimum raise allowed by the CBA and would not cry if they walked as they are replaceable, and make a priority to re-sign Harikainen, Fistric, Gagner, Smid and Paajarvi

Turrican* 02-07-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muscles Glasses (Post 59212675)
The only players I would let walk are Hordichuk, Whitney, Sutton and Khabibulin. I would resign Lander, Jones,Petrell and Peckham for the minimum raise allowed by the CBA and would not cry if they walked as they are replaceable, and make a priority to re-sign Harikainen, Fistric, Gagner, Smid and Paajarvi

I can't really disagree with this.

harpoon 02-07-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muscles Glasses (Post 59212675)
The only players I would let walk are Hordichuk, Whitney, Sutton and Khabibulin. I would resign Lander, Jones,Petrell and Peckham for the minimum raise allowed by the CBA and would not cry if they walked as they are replaceable, and make a priority to re-sign Harikainen, Fistric, Gagner, Smid and Paajarvi

Agreed with this, except I'd put Lander in your priority group and move MPS to the take it or leave it minimum raise category.

Oil Gauge 02-07-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chooch (Post 59212455)
Considering this season develops into another train-wreck, it's time to change things up.

Sam Gagner - Two years @ 5M/per + bonuses. (If he keeps the work up)
Ryan Jones - One year @ 1.5M.
Ladislav Smid - Two years @ 3.7M/per.
Mark Fistric - Two years @ 1.5M/per.

You can't sign Gagner to an ELC and he's not over 35 so I don't think you can give him a contract that contains bonuses. Unless the New CBA allows for it but I haven't heard of anything like that.

Lessy 02-07-2013 10:35 AM

Sam Gagner - 4 years, 16 million
Ryan Jones - 2 years, 4.5 million
Magnus Paajarvi - 1 year, 1.7 million
Teemu Hartikainen - 2 years, 3 million
Darcy Hordichuk - goodbye
Lennart Petrell - goodbye
Anton Lander - 2 years, 1.8 million
Ryan Whitney - goodbye
Ladislav Smid - 5 years, 20 million
Andy Sutton - goodbye
Mark Fistric - 2 years, 3.5 million
Theo Peckham - goodbye
Nikolai Khabibulin - goodbye

Trafalgar Law 02-07-2013 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilersfan11 (Post 59212363)
Sam Gagner-RFA we'll see how he does for rest of season, definitely keep though
Ryan Jones-UFA 1/2 years similar cap hit
Magnus Paajarvi-RFA 2 years 1.5-2 mil
Teemu Hartikainen-RFA 2 years 1.5-2 mil
Darcy Hordichuk-UFA let walk
Lennart Petrell-UFA 1 year 1 mil
Anton Lander-RFA 2 years 1-1.5 mil
Ryan Whitney-UFA let walk
Ladislav Smid-UFA 3/4 years 3-4 mil
Andy Sutton-UFA let walk
Mark Fistric-UFA 1/2 years 1.5-2 mil
Theo Peckham-RFA don't qualify
Nikolai Khabibulin-UFA let walk

On top of that, buy out Horcoff, trade Smyth for whatever we can get.

Chooch 02-07-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oil Gauge (Post 59216861)
You can't sign Gagner to an ELC and he's not over 35 so I don't think you can give him a contract that contains bonuses. Unless the New CBA allows for it but I haven't heard of anything like that.

I forgot he's still 23, i thought he would be 25 by next season :shakehead

jumptheshark 02-07-2013 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilersfan11 (Post 59212363)
Sam Gagner-RFA
Ryan Jones-UFA
Magnus Paajarvi-RFA
Teemu Hartikainen-RFA
Darcy Hordichuk-UFA
Lennart Petrell-UFA
Anton Lander-RFA
Ryan Whitney-UFA
Ladislav Smid-UFA
Andy Sutton-UFA
Mark Fistric-UFA
Theo Peckham-RFA
Nikolai Khabibulin-UFA





Which players would you re-sign?
How long and for how much money would you re-sign the players chosen by you?

bold guys are gone

Lander and MPS get another contract to find their games
Fistric and Smid are the guy tossing hits on the back end
Klefbom is coming over next year and may spend 1/2 the year on the farm
Hartikien has shown he is NHL ready
I have always been the head of the Gagner fan club--so obviously keep him and sign him

Oilers need to sort out the Horcoff/Belenger 3/4 lines--

Lessy 02-07-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jumptheshark (Post 59218681)
bold guys are gone

Lander and MPS get another contract to find their games
Fistric and Smid are the guy tossing hits on the back end
Klefbom is coming over next year and may spend 1/2 the year on the farm
Hartikien has shown he is NHL ready
I have always been the head of the Gagner fan club--so obviously keep him and sign him

Oilers need to sort out the Horcoff/Belenger 3/4 lines--

Letting Jones go could turn out to be Glencross 2.0. We'll have to see what he looks like after he comes back from injury but I'd keep him over Petrell if that's what it comes down to. If we want scoring from our bottom six Jones is the last guy we should be letting walk.

Turrican* 02-07-2013 11:25 AM

Do NOT let Jones go.

SERIOUSLY?

backhandsauce 02-07-2013 11:54 AM

Surprised with the Petrell lack of respect.

He is the guy we want in the bottom 6 and on the PK at all times. Very under rated and props to the scouting staff for finding this guy.

Lessy 02-07-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okanagan Oil (Post 59221151)
Surprised with the Petrell lack of respect.

He is the guy we want in the bottom 6 and on the PK at all times. Very under rated and props to the scouting staff for finding this guy.

Couldn't stand the guy last year but he's been a beast on the PK this year. He's not a great bottom six option but a lot better than the likes of Liam Reddox and even a guy like Hordichuk today. I'd rather keep Jones than Petrell though despite his start to this season. We need secondary scoring and Petrell brings 0 of that.

russ99 02-07-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muscles Glasses (Post 59212675)
The only players I would let walk are Hordichuk, Whitney, Sutton and Khabibulin. I would resign Lander, Jones,Petrell and Peckham for the minimum raise allowed by the CBA and would not cry if they walked as they are replaceable, and make a priority to re-sign Harikainen, Fistric, Gagner, Smid and Paajarvi

The cap is shrinking, and RNH still needs his first big contract like Eberle and Hall got theirs this offseason.

So, IMO, I'd:

Amnesty Horcoff.
Amnesty Belanger.
Waive/release Eager and Potter.

Resign Smid (our biggest priority signing - but only if he can get back to last year's level of play).

Resign Gagner if we can get him to agree to team-friendly terms, otherwise sign and trade to another team with other assets for a up and coming #2 center or second pairing defenseman; or a deal to move up in the draft and select either.

Qualify Hartikainen and Paajarvi, see if we an get them to sign for a modest raise.

Attempt to re-sign Fistric to a one-year team-friendly deal.

Let all the rest go and sign RNH to his post-ELC extension.

Then focus the rest of the cap room on acquiring/signing 1 center with offensive skills, 2 big two-way centers who can win face-offs, at least 2 big two-way wingers to fill up the third line, acquire a good backup goalie to push Dubnyk and try to hit a home run on a #1 or #2 defenseman either via UFA or RFA offer sheet.

misfit 02-07-2013 01:49 PM

Belanger makes less than $2M and is a good 3rd line center and perfect #4. Why would you buy him out?

We're not going to be hurting for cap space next year regardless of the cap going down. We could (and probably will) wait until the 2014 offseason to buy out Horcoff without being in cap trouble too.

AlowlyOilersfan 02-07-2013 01:52 PM

Agree with most, but I'd sign Peckham to a two-year two-way deal.

russ99 02-07-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misfit (Post 59227793)
Belanger makes less than $2M and is a good 3rd line center and perfect #4. Why would you buy him out?

We're not going to be hurting for cap space next year regardless of the cap going down. We could (and probably will) wait until the 2014 offseason to buy out Horcoff without being in cap trouble too.

He's an average 4th, not a good 3rd. Look at the #3 and 4 centers of the Western Conference playoff teams last year and tell me if Belanger measures up, especially after last year. We need a Bolland-like player on the 3rd line to contend.

I had high hopes for an improvement this year, so we'll have to see how he bounces back from injury.

MeestaDeteta 02-07-2013 01:57 PM

Sam Gagner - 3 year deal worth $4.25M per
Ryan Jones - 2 year deal worth $1.8M per
Magnus Paajarvi - 2 year deal worth $1.3M per
Teemu Hartikainen - 1 year deal worth $.8M per
Darcy Hordichuk - bye bye
Lennart Petrell - 2 year deal worth $1.3M per
Anton Lander - 2 year deal worth $.9M per
Ryan Whitney - bye bye
Ladislav Smid - 4 year deal worth $4M per
Andy Sutton - bye bye
Mark Fistric - 1 year deal worth $1.8M per
Theo Peckham - bye bye
Nikolai Khabibulin - bye bye

MeestaDeteta 02-07-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlowlyOilersfan (Post 59227965)
Agree with most, but I'd sign Peckham to a two-year two-way deal.

Not sure that's even possible. In order to retain his rights, we have to tender him a qualifying offer which I believe is 10% higher than what he's making right now on a 1-way deal ($1.075M).

NHLNUT04 02-07-2013 02:01 PM

Sam Gagner, 5 years @ 4 Million per

Smid, 5 years, 5 million per

MARK FISTRIC, 3 years @ 2.75 per

TEEMU HARTIKAINEN 5 years @ 2.75 per

MeestaDeteta 02-07-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HockeyFanLand (Post 59228389)
Sam Gagner, 5 years @ 4 Million per

Smid, 5 years, 5 million per

MARK FISTRIC, 3 years @ 2.75 per

TEEMU HARTIKAINEN 5 years @ 2.75 per

Smid is not worth $5M IMO. He's a solid, stay-at-home guy, but if we pay that much for him I will cringe.

Fistric @ 2.75 seems like a slight overpay.

Hartikainen is no where near 2.75 IMO.

The Slippery Snake 02-07-2013 02:04 PM

I think we should look at locking up Gagner and Smid long term.

Something like:
Gagner for 5-6 years @ 4 million per year
Smid for 5 years @ 3.75 million per year


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