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Prongo 02-07-2013 02:23 PM

Pietrangelo and Shattenkirks next contracts
 
Was wondering what everyone (especially you Blues fans) is thinking these two young dman will get on their next contracts.

laundryman 02-07-2013 02:29 PM

Pietrangelo would probably get at least 6+. Don't know about Shattenkirk

Jaromir Jagrbombs 02-07-2013 02:31 PM

I would imagine Pietrangelo gets a Karlsson/Doughty type contract, like 6.5-7 mil long term, while Shattenkirk I'll say 4 years at 4.5 mil. Would like to hear some Blues fans input.

Alklha 02-07-2013 02:31 PM

Pietrangelo will probably get $6.5m-ish long term. Shattenkirk is more likely to get a bridge deal in the 2y/$7m range I suspect.

We won't have a problem affording both.

Prongo 02-07-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alklha (Post 59233321)
Pietrangelo will probably get $6.5m-ish long term. Shattenkirk is more likely to get a bridge deal in the 2y/$7m range I suspect.

We won't have a problem affording both.

Blue the last three years have spent right around 50 million. You have 6 key RFA's up for new deals, including 4 pretty large ones. Piety, Shattenkirk, Berglund, and Stewart. If a deal isn't made before the offseason, you would have to think an offersheet to one of these players is possible. Especially Piety.

ScoreZeGoals 02-07-2013 02:34 PM

Pietro will cost a ton, his agent is the same as Doughty's so you are looking at 6.5-7 on a long term contract

KIRK 02-07-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alklha (Post 59233321)
Pietrangelo will probably get $6.5m-ish long term. Shattenkirk is more likely to get a bridge deal in the 2y/$7m range I suspect.

We won't have a problem affording both.

What about Berglund, Stewart, Russell, and Cole?

bleedblue1223 02-07-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KIRK (Post 59233563)
What about Berglund, Stewart, Russell, and Cole?

Russell and Cole will be cheap, and we might let Russell go. Berglund and Stewart won't get anything too big, but will depend on how they do down the stretch.

Army always seems to resign guys cheaper than other GMs do.

KIRK 02-07-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bleedblue1223 (Post 59234005)
Russell and Cole will be cheap, and we might let Russell go. Berglund and Stewart won't get anything too big, but will depend on how they do down the stretch.

Army always seems to resign guys cheaper than other GMs do.

I was just asking. My guess is that if it gets tight Armstrong might do something with Stewart this summer.

bleedblue1223 02-07-2013 02:45 PM

Our financials are improving so our budget will continue to expand. I expect McDonald will take a discount if he returns.

bleedblue1223 02-07-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KIRK (Post 59234101)
I was just asking. My guess is that if it gets tight Armstrong might do something with Stewart this summer.

Yep or we don't bring McDonald back. I'm not too worried. We ust probably won't be able to add anyone big from the outside.

iamitter 02-07-2013 02:52 PM

I'd assume Shatty gets a bridge similar to MDZ. ~5.5/2

Dellstrom 02-07-2013 03:10 PM

Pietrangelo will probably get the same deal as Doughty. Not sure about Shattenkirk.

Alklha 02-07-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Prongo (Post 59233481)
Blue the last three years have spent right around 50 million. You have 6 key RFA's up for new deals, including 4 pretty large ones. Piety, Shattenkirk, Berglund, and Stewart. If a deal isn't made before the offseason, you would have to think an offersheet to one of these players is possible. Especially Piety.

We won't be able to afford everyone. The general consensus is that it will come down to a choice between McDonald and Stewart. There won't be a problem with Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Berglund, Cole or Russell.

As for the other poster who mentioned Don Meehan being Petros agent, I don't think that is a significant factor. He represents Backes as well, and we didn't have any issues getting him signed until 2016 at $4.5m. Ultimately the player decides how far he wants to push things for a few extra bucks.

rockinghockey 02-07-2013 04:31 PM

Pietr about 6-6.5mil and Shatty will get the bridge contract.

Goulet17 02-07-2013 04:39 PM

Shattenkirk has 95 points in 162 career NHL games. I think that he will ask for something in the $5 million range.

He just turned 24, so a bridge contract would be more difficult IMO. I would think the Blues will look to sign him to a long term deal.

CarvinSigX 02-07-2013 04:40 PM

The Blues and Pietrangelo were already in talks about an extension before the lockout. I think he'll be signed around the midpoint of the season for anywhere from 5.75-6.5 a year. I'm hoping he signs for less, but it's just not that likely. I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up a long term contract right at 6.25 a year...But that depends on if he signs early or waits and gets nominated for a Norris this year.

CaptainCally 02-07-2013 05:01 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Pietroangelo got something like $5.5M, STL are really good at resigning players cheap. Pietroangelo deserves $6.5M IMO.

Shatty will probably get around $3.5M IMO.

TOGuy14 02-07-2013 05:53 PM

Piet will be looking for Doughty money, deserves Doughty money, and would be the last RFA St. Louis would ever let slip away (rightfully so)

Lifetimebluesfan 02-07-2013 06:15 PM

I agree with everyone that says Petro and Shatty deserve big time raises and long term deals, but what if they agree to sign cheaper contracts, just until they have one year left of RFA eligibility? I just don't know if ownership can afford to bring back all our RFAs on long term deals at this point.
With them being on a solid team you'd have to think they wouldn't mind it..?
Petro 4-4.5 M per
Shatty 3.5-4 M per
Once those contracts are up we then extend them long term.

binop7 02-07-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifetimebluesfan (Post 59246643)
I agree with everyone that says Petro and Shatty deserve big time raises and long term deals, but what if they agree to sign cheaper contracts, just until they have one year left of RFA eligibility? I just don't know if ownership can afford to bring back all our RFAs on long term deals at this point.
With them being on a solid team you'd have to think they wouldn't mind it..?
Petro 4-4.5 M per
Shatty 3.5-4 M per
Once those contracts are up we then extend them long term.

No way at 4-4.5 on Pietrangelo, he's already one of the best D in the league, he's gonna want a kings ransom. 6.5-7 maybe more.

Vladys Gumption 02-07-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rockinghockey (Post 59240319)
Pietr about 6-6.5mil and Shatty will get the bridge contract.

Shatty's not getting a bridge contract. I fully expect 4 years at 4.5 to 5 per. All he's done is improve by leaps and bounds each year.

Martyros 02-07-2013 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lifetimebluesfan (Post 59246643)
I agree with everyone that says Petro and Shatty deserve big time raises and long term deals, but what if they agree to sign cheaper contracts, just until they have one year left of RFA eligibility? I just don't know if ownership can afford to bring back all our RFAs on long term deals at this point.
With them being on a solid team you'd have to think they wouldn't mind it..?
Petro 4-4.5 M per
Shatty 3.5-4 M per
Once those contracts are up we then extend them long term.

Why in the world would Petro want one year of RFA? If anything, he'd want to be a UFA. the Blues would like to take a couple years of his UFA status by giving him Doughty money, which he rightfully so deserves.

RomersWorld* 02-07-2013 07:08 PM

I think Pietrangelo will win the Norris this year so my guess is he gets PAID. If there was one defenseman I could have for the rest of his career it would be Pietrangelo slightly above Karlsson and Doughty.

I'd say 6 years, 6.8 mil

For Shattenkirk, I'll guess 3 years, 4.3 mil

Iracundia 02-07-2013 07:22 PM

Close to 6m per for both on long term contracts. If Myers got a 5.5 per for 1 season, Shatty should get more since he has done so much more over 2+ seasons.


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