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Canadian Gold X3 02-07-2013 03:42 PM

What decade had the most busts?
 
I know the 90s had pretty terrible drafting, but which decade had the most busts?

Mad Habber 02-07-2013 04:08 PM

Since the draft came in, you can see a gradual progression in propsect evaluation and development. You go through the old draft lists and you see the 60s were very hit and miss, then the 70s are better, then the 80s, 90s, 00s, 10's progressively get better. There are still the David Fischers and Mark Miteras out there, but the average 1st rounder plays more games today than they did in the 60s and 70s. And the first round is 30 picks now, not 5 picks in 65, or 16 or 18 picks in the 70s.

Crosbyfan 02-07-2013 06:06 PM

What decade had the most busts?
 
Manon Rhéaume had her tryout in 1992 so I'll go with the nineties.

eddytheeagle20 02-08-2013 08:43 AM

stefan was drafted before the sedin twins in 99 so ill go with the 90's

Mad Habber 02-08-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Crosbyfan (Post 59245779)
Manon Rhéaume had her tryout in 1992 so I'll go with the nineties.

She was never drafted. Nice try though. Gives new meaning to the term, "good in the locker room".

eddytheeagle20 02-08-2013 12:28 PM

wasnt she just a publicity stunt pulled by espisito to draw fans to the games

BamBamCam* 02-08-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eddytheeagle20 (Post 59305621)
wasnt she just a publicity stunt pulled by espisito to draw fans to the games

Yeah in preseason games in 92 and 93. She signed on as a free agent though and a try out.

Kloparren 02-08-2013 01:56 PM

90s, I blame Lindros. Teams kept thinking they'd get the next Lindros.

Big Phil 02-08-2013 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddytheeagle20 (Post 59305621)
wasnt she just a publicity stunt pulled by espisito to draw fans to the games

Yes, Esposito admits that in his book. He also details his affairs he had over his career. He's honest about them all, I'll give him that. It makes me wonder if Phil had Manon sort of.............pay him back in her own way and just didn't mention it or if he actually wasn't a perv and did nothing for once in his life ;)

I'll go with the 1990s here. Those 1994, 1995 and 1996 drafts were just ponderous. 1997 and 1998 were pretty good but 1999 was poor again. Come to think of it 1993 was pretty good but 1992 was awful again. 1990 and 1991 were alright but you can use your own method as to where you rank Lindros from a hype vs. production standpoint.

jigglysquishy 02-08-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kloparren (Post 59310175)
90s, I blame Lindros. Teams kept thinking they'd get the next Lindros.

I'd like to touch on this for a second.

After Lindros was drafted in '91 we saw an increase of large talented forwards drafted in the first round. If you look at the first 24 spots (to adjust for smaller draft years in the past). Most notably

92 draft
Alexei Yashin (6'3 230)
Todd Warriner (6'2 190)
Ryan Sittler (6'2 195)
Andrei Nazarov (6'5 245)
Joe Hulbig (6'3 215)
Libor Polasek (6'4 225)

93 draft
Chris Gratton (6'4 230)
Rob Niedermayer (6'2 205)
Viktor Kozlov (6'4 235)
Jason Arnott (6'5 220)
Denis Pederson (6'2 205)
Mats Lindren (6'2 200)
Jason Allison (6'3 215)
Landon Wilson (6'3 225)
Todd Bertuzzi (6'3 225)
Eric Lecompte (6'4 215)

94 draft
Radek Bonk (6'3 215)
Jason Bonsignore (6'4 220)
Ryan Smyth (6'2 190)
Brett Lindros (6'4 245)
Ethan Moreau (6'2 220)
Wayne Primeau (6'4 230)
Chris Dingman (6'3 240)
Jason Botterill (6'4 220)
Chris Wells (6'6 240)

Compare that to the past three years

10 draft
Ryan Johansen (6'2 190)
Nino Niederreiter (6'2 205)
Brett Connolly (6'2 215)
Austin Watson (6'3 185)
Nick Bjugstad (6'6 215)
Riley Sheahan (6'2 210)
Kevin Hayes (6'3 205)

11 draft
Mika Zibanejad (6'2 190)
Mark Scheifele (6'3 190)
Sean Couturier (6'3 200)
Joel Armia (6'3 185)
Mark McNeill (6'2 210)
Tyler Biggs (6'2 200)

12 draft
Mikhail Grigorenko (6'3 200)
Radek Faksa (6'3 200)
Tom Wilson (6'4 210)
Tomas Hertl (6'2 195)
Mark Jankowski (6'2 170)

So we went from averaging 8.3 "big men" (6'2+) a year to averaging 6.0.

We can say its just a random change, but I'm not surprised in the slightest that people tried to repeat Lindros.

I also think people tried to repeat Brodeur with Fleury and DiPietro.

Darth Yoda 02-08-2013 09:45 PM

The first couple of drafts was a parody, ridicoulous really. I remember some swedish guy named Björn Johansson that was drafted fifth overall in 1976 and he even was a so called "bum" in his european career. Taken by California obviously.


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