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Isles Junkie 02-07-2013 08:49 PM

It's time for Capuano to go
 
I'm sorry fellow mods. I realize this is just going to be another thread that likely derails into team toughness and Garth Snow and Charles Wang, but I can't take this coach anymore.

What does he do well?

The team routinely starts off the game slowly. I'm not entirely sure, but I think that we've given up goals on the first shot on goal twice so far this season. As we all know this was a major problem last year.

We rarely play with any sense of urgency. The line matchups are always out of whack. Why he always puts our 4th line out against the oppositions 1st line after a power play is beyond me. He doesn't reward players like Ullstrom with power play time or time spent on a better line. Is there really any reason he's still on our 3rd line & Kyle on the 2nd/2nd PP?

The pulling of the goalie. HOLY HELL, what is this guy doing? Every stinking game we're down by 2, he pulls the goalie way too early, and at a time when the goalie shouldn't be pulled yet and we always give up an empty net goal. The guy must be crazy, because I can't recall a single time in his tenure that the Isles have scored 2 with the empty net.

I hate Fred Flintstone, and I don't even care if Doug Weight is woefully underqualified (why he isn't learning in the AHL right now is beyond me). Make the change already. I can't take it anymore.

/rant

Strummergas 02-07-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isle Junkie (Post 59270663)
I'm sorry fellow mods. I realize this is just going to be another thread that likely derails into team toughness and Garth Snow and Charles Wang, but I can't take this coach anymore.

What does he do well?

The team routinely starts off the game slowly. I'm not entirely sure, but I think that we've given up goals on the first shot on goal twice so far this season. As we all know this was a major problem last year.

We rarely play with any sense of urgency. The line matchups are always out of whack. Why he always puts our 4th line out against the oppositions 1st line after a power play is beyond me. He doesn't reward players like Ullstrom with power play time or time spent on a better line. Is there really any reason he's still on our 3rd line & Kyle on the 2nd/2nd PP?

The pulling of the goalie. HOLY HELL, what is this guy doing? Every stinking game we're down by 2, he pulls the goalie way too early, and at a time when the goalie shouldn't be pulled yet and we always give up an empty net goal. The guy must be crazy, because I can't recall a single time in his tenure that the Isles have scored 2 with the empty net.

I hate Fred Flintstone, and I don't even care if Doug Weight is woefully underqualified (why he isn't learning in the AHL right now is beyond me). Make the change already. I can't take it anymore.

/rant

I'm with you. Only it better be Thompson taking over instead of Weight. I'm not sure the results will be much different than they are now, but at least the guy has been a head coach at the pro level.

HA! That's the point it's gotten too. "At least the guy has been a head coach at the pro level". Amazing...

NYI JT91 02-07-2013 08:58 PM

Just said the same thing to my brother and GF.

Should've never gotten rid of lavy and nolan

1 Timer 02-07-2013 09:12 PM

I have been coaching U18 for a long time now, and I cant believe that at the NHL level you let the players have so much say. Lazy for 3 games and no one gets called out. I call out players all the time. One thing I have learned over the years is there are no short cuts to victory. Control the puck below the goalline take constant effort. and the team that wins the battles down there will win most of the time. Stop looking at your line up card and call out those who are under performing.

PROMputt 02-07-2013 09:19 PM

I don't get it. Why is Cappy so afraid to make waves/changes? And for once after a game could he go nuts and just show some frustration and show us he cares.

NYI JT91 02-07-2013 09:20 PM

Capuano is not totally at fault...players certainly are too. But we can't get new players...snow needs to do that and get permission from wang to do so...but Capuano is also just as much the problem...system he instills is not bad but he himself is not good at carrying out the roles of an every day coach. We need someone like torterlla who deals with no BS. Cap is a an emotionless pushover that the players have no respect for clearly since they come out every game with no heart.

CDirt 02-07-2013 09:21 PM

I want to be fair to the guy but he doesn't make it easy. I understand that the roster is not the most desirable so, for the most part, I try not to judge the guy on the outcomes of the games score wise.

In terms of overall effort given by his team he leaves a lot to be desired. Some of his decisions like pulling the goalie when his team doesn't deserve it because of the crap effort they put forth. A coaches decision to pull the goalie for an extra skater is not an entitlement, it's earned by the players on the ice for giving an effort. You do that on a night like tonight it's sends the wrong message.

Preparation is not exactly this guys strong suit. It's rather unfortunate. I think it's what makes him a bad coach. His system just doesn't work either. I don't think he inspires a lot of confidence or demand a lot of respect from the guys in the room either. Otherwise they'd be prepared to play when the puck is dropped instead of skating around in a fog.

The team itself needs an old school hard ass coach. A Mike Keenan or a Par Burns kinda guy. Someone with a flare for some passion behind the bench wouldn't hurt either. That's how you win the hearts of a young team.

I really think over these last few seasons it's evident the kind of coach this team needs. Problem is that if you fire the coach it might send a message to players they can get away with it with next guy.

Minor house cleaning might be in order. Starting with sending Visnovski somewhere else before a cancer gets in the room.

YearlyLottery 02-07-2013 09:22 PM

While Cappy should be fired. It's going to be the same thing with any other coach we put in. UNLESS this organization does something right and gets a NHL coach. But is this going to happen? No it's not. At this point they might as well find a hothead behind the bench. Something to get this team started. That's his problem, he can't get this team ready to play. Their first periods are terrible. I don't know too much about coaches that are available. Are there any good coaches out there anyway?

Hipietro 02-07-2013 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isle Junkie (Post 59270663)
I'm sorry fellow mods. I realize this is just going to be another thread that likely derails into team toughness and Garth Snow and Charles Wang, but I can't take this coach anymore.

What does he do well?

The team routinely starts off the game slowly. I'm not entirely sure, but I think that we've given up goals on the first shot on goal twice so far this season. As we all know this was a major problem last year.

We rarely play with any sense of urgency. The line matchups are always out of whack. Why he always puts our 4th line out against the oppositions 1st line after a power play is beyond me. He doesn't reward players like Ullstrom with power play time or time spent on a better line. Is there really any reason he's still on our 3rd line & Kyle on the 2nd/2nd PP?

The pulling of the goalie. HOLY HELL, what is this guy doing? Every stinking game we're down by 2, he pulls the goalie way too early, and at a time when the goalie shouldn't be pulled yet and we always give up an empty net goal. The guy must be crazy, because I can't recall a single time in his tenure that the Isles have scored 2 with the empty net.

I hate Fred Flintstone, and I don't even care if Doug Weight is woefully underqualified (why he isn't learning in the AHL right now is beyond me). Make the change already. I can't take it anymore.

/rant

Pretty much covered everything I was going to say.

The guy is an NHL coach and he can't even pull his goaltender at a safe time. Two games in a row where the goalie is pulled and the other team scores in less than 5 seconds. Are you ****ing kidding me?

This guy sucks, plain and simple.

Veteran journeyman 02-07-2013 09:40 PM

Cappy left the bench for two minutes and Doug Weight put like nine players out on the ice. If that's the heir apparent, I'll stick with Cappy. If they do their "due diligence" and look to bring in someone instead of just handing it to Weight, then I'd be cool with a change.

StrongIslanders90 02-07-2013 09:50 PM

nd then Wieght or Thompson will be the coach and then we will have yet more AHL coaches with no NHL head coaching in thier resume....

I just want a guy

goalsniper91 02-07-2013 10:14 PM

I want Laviolette back.

Let's just wait till the Flyers fail-wagon reaches its peak, and then they will fire him.

Then when the opportunity to get him back comes, Garf will......


Fire Cappy and hire Weight or Thompson. :facepalm:


I'm going to disown the isles for the next twenty games or so..its that time of year. You always know the long losing streak is here when:

A) They start off hot and have played 10 games
B) The first time after that said hot start where they don't get a single pt in a one week span.
C) Garf trades for another reject instead of adding and impact player to get to the cap floor.

I don't know how much more of this I can take. I might just stop watching hockey all together if this continues...and I've been a hockey fan my whole life, but this is getting effing ridiculous.

Islanderfan17 02-07-2013 10:14 PM

Been wanting this guy gone since early last season. Really don't understand why we are clinging on to him, he never even proved anything to get the job in the first place. Make Thompson the head coach, he got good results with the Sound Tigers and he seems like more of a hardass than Cappy is.

IMO Cappy holds this team back more than anything, even more so than our not so impressive roster.

IslandersFan17 02-07-2013 10:22 PM

There is absolutely no reason for Capuano to hold onto his job. The guy is given one of the best young talents in the game and we have yet to see the guy motivate his team to play up to their potential.

Then again, whom would NYI be able to bring in that would be competent?

A Pointed Stick 02-07-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Islanderfan17 (Post 59281991)
Been wanting this guy gone since early last season. Really don't understand why we are clinging on to him, he never even proved anything to get the job in the first place. Make Thompson the head coach, he got good results with the Sound Tigers and he seems like more of a hardass than Cappy is.

IMO Cappy holds this team back more than anything, even more so than our not so impressive roster.

Wang doesn't want quality, he wants cheap.

Homeland Security 02-07-2013 10:27 PM

I'm just about at my limit with Capuano. Time for a PROVEN NHL coach!!

19NYSports91 02-07-2013 10:34 PM

The Islanders are not well coached and they haven't been for the last 5 years. The Islanders have talent, they need a better system for 5 on 5 clearly. Passing is key and they're just not to good at it.

Watch a Bruins game and see how well coached they are, fun to see.

redbull 02-07-2013 10:38 PM

Coach can't help this team. They need talent. Get the talent, then get a coach. No coach worth anything will take a job setup for disaster.

majormet 02-07-2013 11:25 PM

Haven't posted yet this season, but have to now.

I agree with IslesJunkie and this post is necessary. I think there are some talent shortages but when we get Viz and Bailey back that should help.

I think the answer is Brent Sutter. I know he didn't do too well in his first 2 stints, but this is home team and he will command the respect that Gordon and Capuano have not received. He is a coach that comes with a great playing resume, cannot throw Thompson or Weight out there at this point. We need someone that has coached before and someone that would command respect. There are not many guys available that we can say that about at this point, so the picking are slim.

I do think under Brent that they won't play 3 bad games in a row.

blitzkriegs 02-07-2013 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbull (Post 59283531)
Coach can't help this team. They need talent. Get the talent, then get a coach. No coach worth anything will take a job setup for disaster.

The isles would be a better team if they had an ho experienced coach. However, they cost $ and don't want to be a servant to Wang.

JetsMetsIsles 02-08-2013 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitzkriegs (Post 59286801)
The isles would be a better team if they had an ho experienced coach. However, they cost $ and don't want to be a servant to Wang.

Its not about being a servant for Wang. Its about why would any respectable coach want to coach a team that will never spend the money to try and win. Its not worth the effort.

Screw You Rick Nash 02-08-2013 01:00 AM

To me, Capuano seems like he has been a long-term interim head coach. I know that's an oxymoron. It's like they hired Capuano as the interim guy and completely forgot to look for a head coach.

Hockey Team 02-08-2013 02:43 AM

The isles have way bigger problems then the coach..

Honestly, when you're down 2 with 2 minutes to go, who cares if you give up an ENG? You're probably > 99% to lose at that point anyway. I'm a rangers fan and have seen torts pull as early as when nabokov was pulled tonight. (Though never when the puck's still in the defensive zone, that would be pretty retarded).

Look at the way the team's managed. What has the ownership done since they took over the team? Spend to the floor, have very public fights about players failing to report, and now they're trading for another team's dead cap space. What an embarrassment.

Complaining about other aspects of his coaching (I wouldn't know anything about that, so I won't pass any judgement here) might be valid, but handling a goalie pull with 2 minutes left to go with 2 goals down has just about no impact on how the team's going to perform. I can't recall ever watching a game with a 2 goal comeback in the last 2 minutes, and I've watched hundreds of games. That situation might happen once or twice a season in the whole league.

Brunomics 02-08-2013 03:45 AM

I think a bigger problem is their captain Streit. I'm not saying he's a bad guy or not a good player who has had his issues this year but this team needs a captain that will get in his teammates faces and call them out on things. A real leader.

Hockey Team 02-08-2013 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brunomics (Post 59290783)
I think a bigger problem is their captain Streit. I'm not saying he's a bad guy or not a good player who has had his issues this year but this team needs a captain that will get in his teammates faces and call them out on things. A real leader.

The problem is, it's very hard for any captain to be a good leader when they're playing under an ownership that wants to save money and doesn't give a crap about winning.

Most GMs would spend $ on free agents if they're worried about going below the cap floor during the season because of a trade. The isles ownership? They go and take on dead cap space off another team.

You guys should be hoping for new owners first before worrying about anything like coaches, captains, or whatever.


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