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mindfly 02-08-2013 12:19 PM

Keaton Ellerby just got traded for a 5th rounder
 
Why didn't Kenny pull the trigger on this?

The Nose 02-08-2013 12:21 PM

He'd have to cut a veteran.

Vladdy84 02-08-2013 12:25 PM

Too busy working on Cleary's extension. He really needs to move out a couple forwards for picks. When Helm and Sammy come back we'll have like 16 forwards.

InjuredChoker 02-08-2013 12:28 PM

I don't know.. would have liked to take a stab at that price or some of our forwards.

Heaton 02-08-2013 12:28 PM

Is he a top 2 defensemen right now?

mindfly 02-08-2013 12:34 PM

No but he's huge, still young, former 1st rounder with potential, playing in bad system and bad market. Unfortunately he's a left hand shot. Still... Imagine him with Ericsson, two 6'5 D's out there.

Would rather have him for a cheap 5th rounder than taking Huskins on waivers

joe89 02-08-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Heaton (Post 59302403)
Is he a top 2 defensemen right now?

7th or 8th D on FLA.

Heaton 02-08-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by joe89 (Post 59302935)
7th or 8th D on FLA.

Yeah. This team needs established, minute eating defensemen. This kid being big is a plus, but if he can't fit the role we need he's just another body.

icKx 02-08-2013 12:51 PM

Would have been nice to swap Kindl for him. See if we could finish each other's project

Zetterberg4Captain 02-08-2013 01:04 PM

these are the exact type of moves KH SHOULD be making.

get out there kenny and try

newfy 02-08-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Heaton (Post 59303269)
Yeah. This team needs established, minute eating defensemen. This kid being big is a plus, but if he can't fit the role we need he's just another body.

I would rather have the 23 year old huge former 10th overall and try to shape his game up a bit for a 5th rounder over someone like Huskins who is only a stop gap. Ellerby could develop into a top 4 dman that hits like a truck.

Florida doesnt play defensive hockey and he would still be younger than everyone on the team, he could definitely be developed

JPE123 02-08-2013 01:28 PM

Holland will be tied up for a few days working on a new contract for Cleary after he scored a goal last night.

Henkka 02-08-2013 01:31 PM

Holland should be fired because he is not involved in every trade that happens in NHL.

19Yzerman19 02-08-2013 01:37 PM

Because Ellerby sucks???

crashman 02-08-2013 01:47 PM

Tallon may have have given out some bad contracts in his day, but he knows how to evaluate talent. Ellerby must not be much of a player.

joe89 02-08-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by crashman (Post 59306633)
Tallon may have have given out some bad contracts in his day, but he knows how to evaluate talent. Ellerby must not be much of a player.

Heard the biggest knock on Ellerby making it is hockey sense. Too many ill-advised penalties and decision making can be off.

tfong 02-08-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by joe89 (Post 59307233)
Heard the biggest knock on Ellerby making it is hockey sense. Too many ill-advised penalties and decision making can be off.

Already have Quincey for that haha

joe89 02-08-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tfong (Post 59307329)
Already have Quincey for that haha

Ellerby's taken 3 more minors than Quincey this year :yo:

While I looked that up, I saw that Quincey is +6 for the year(how the hell did that happen?).

hockeydoug 02-08-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crashman (Post 59306633)
Tallon may have have given out some bad contracts in his day, but he knows how to evaluate talent.

I don't think this has much to do with evaluation. He mismanaged his contract slots and had plenty of time to manage the injuries and Kulikov situation. He never should have been in a position where he would have to give up a dman that would fit in the top 8 on most rosters right now.

Flowah 02-08-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe89 (Post 59307581)
Ellerby's taken 3 more minors than Quincey this year :yo:

While I looked that up, I saw that Quincey is +6 for the year(how the hell did that happen?).

No idea. But it goes to show how much of a crapshoot +/- can be in a small sample size or in general.

There is no way anyone who has watched Quincey play for the Wings this year and last year would characterize his play as justifying that +6 rating.

Vladdy84 02-08-2013 02:27 PM

Quincey's turned it around. Yeaaaaah buuddy!

newfy 02-08-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vladdy84 (Post 59308643)
Quincey's turned it around. Yeaaaaah buuddy!

I actually think he has quite a bit. After the very first game where he got burnt by Frank he hasnt been all that awful

Hobnobs 02-08-2013 02:41 PM

We couldve gotten Ellerby for a 4th then... Holland is losing his touch...

FlashyG 02-08-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobnobs (Post 59309397)
We couldve gotten Ellerby for a 4th then... Holland is losing his touch...

We have more than enough Ellerby's. The only time this trade would have made any sense was right before the Wings signed Huskins.

Why trade any pick for a guy that is only going to play until players come back from injury. Then be cut loose at the end of the year?

Other than being big there is nothing about Ellerby that would put him in our top 8 defenceman.

Marky9er 02-08-2013 02:55 PM

If we are involved in crappy player for draft pick trades, I'd rather we be getting the draft pick.


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